DACA to be phased out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that the Speaker and a number of moderate GOP's are asking him to hold off.

They know exactly who will take the jobs cleaning up the mess in Houston, and it won't be the out of work coal miners.

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Anonymous wrote:The program was never lawful; its counterpart for adults (DAPA) was blocked in federal court.

There is no right to violate the most basic immigration law.

You know as well as I do that, punishing a child of a violation he/she did not know committed is not being lawful. trump pardoned a criminally charged sheriff because he was against brown and punishing innocent young adult because they are brown. he is advancing white supremacist agenda. you are applauding him dismantle our country; you are disgusting!

This isn't a white supremacist agenda. We have our own people to spend our money on and that includes all races. Should we also just give 10's of thousands of dollars to illegals [over 600,000] who parked themselves in Houston?

DP... so realistically, right now there are probably thousands of illegal immigrants in TX who have been affected by Harvey. Are you suggesting that we check everyone's legal status before offering them shelter and food?

I don't even think you have to be a Christian to realize how inhumane that is. What happened to R being a party of Christian beliefs, which includes helping the unfortunate. Does the Bible say to first check that the person hasn't broken any laws before lending a helping hand?

When I turned 18 decades ago I registered as a R in part because it was known as the party of "Christian ideals". Now that I am much older and I think a bit wiser, I now see that it's now a party of "Christian beliefs" in name only and not in action or deeds; it's about making sure everyone is like "them", and controlling how they live and love. And it's definitely now a party about greed and love of money over doing what is right even if it means you might have higher taxes.

I have left that party.

I am not suggesting the illegals do not have access to shelters, food, rescues. I am stating that they should not get the up to $33,000 FEMA grants nor SBA loans nor housing relocation via any government funds. At least one reporter at a press conference asked if the USA was going to include them in funds beyond the next step of basic shelter, rescue, etc.

Obama's unaccompanied minors were a deluge after DACA. We know they were not small children. Any relief from Mexico for Harvey should include transportation back to Mexico for it's own people.

So if they shouldn't get access to housing relocation via government funds doesn't that generlly mean you don't want to offer then shelter unless they can prove they are here legally? I have no problem if MX wants to pay for its citizens to go back to MX. But if these folks don't go back, then should we just let them be homeless because you don't think the government should help them by spending one cent on them?

DP. This is America. We let lots of people be homeless here - including our own citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/01/politics/paul-ryan-daca-trump-immigration/index.html

It is interesting that Ryan is asking trump to hold off on taking DACA down while taking a shot at Obama that DACA was a overreach. Why did this "big heart" republicans did not come up with an actual solution when Obama was imploring them to pass a bill relate to dreamer. So much grandstanding without offering or working to create any actual solution.

Why would Ryan do this? Because once we give something away for free it is hard to take it back. European countries should reimburse us for Ethiopia-less people for illegal migration. The fact is many people say they support Daca because to do otherwise would be perceived as mean or racist. Reality is we can't have free speech on Daca and illegals.

Illegals and TX? The govt needs to find housing but who should get into the found housing? WPA like project using in-employed from a multitude of other areas across the USA. People used to move for jobs. Now?

[Anonymous]

Obama has made a mess of things for his successors to clear up: it happened with DACA and ACA

Both were poorly thought out and in the former instance of questionable legality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The program was never lawful; its counterpart for adults (DAPA) was blocked in federal court.

There is no right to violate the most basic immigration law.

You know as well as I do that, punishing a child of a violation he/she did not know committed is not being lawful. trump pardoned a criminally charged sheriff because he was against brown and punishing innocent young adult because they are brown. he is advancing white supremacist agenda. you are applauding him dismantle our country; you are disgusting!

This isn't a white supremacist agenda. We have our own people to spend our money on and that includes all races. Should we also just give 10's of thousands of dollars to illegals [over 600,000] who parked themselves in Houston?

DP... so realistically, right now there are probably thousands of illegal immigrants in TX who have been affected by Harvey. Are you suggesting that we check everyone's legal status before offering them shelter and food?

I don't even think you have to be a Christian to realize how inhumane that is. What happened to R being a party of Christian beliefs, which includes helping the unfortunate. Does the Bible say to first check that the person hasn't broken any laws before lending a helping hand?

When I turned 18 decades ago I registered as a R in part because it was known as the party of "Christian ideals". Now that I am much older and I think a bit wiser, I now see that it's now a party of "Christian beliefs" in name only and not in action or deeds; it's about making sure everyone is like "them", and controlling how they live and love. And it's definitely now a party about greed and love of money over doing what is right even if it means you might have higher taxes.

I have left that party.

I am not suggesting the illegals do not have access to shelters, food, rescues. I am stating that they should not get the up to $33,000 FEMA grants nor SBA loans nor housing relocation via any government funds. At least one reporter at a press conference asked if the USA was going to include them in funds beyond the next step of basic shelter, rescue, etc.

Obama's unaccompanied minors were a deluge after DACA. We know they were not small children. Any relief from Mexico for Harvey should include transportation back to Mexico for it's own people.

So if they shouldn't get access to housing relocation via government funds doesn't that generlly mean you don't want to offer then shelter unless they can prove they are here legally? I have no problem if MX wants to pay for its citizens to go back to MX. But if these folks don't go back, then should we just let them be homeless because you don't think the government should help them by spending one cent on them?

DP. This is America. We let lots of people be homeless here - including our own citizens.

But, I'm pretty sure that if there was a disaster, even homeless people would be given some shelter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that the Speaker and a number of moderate GOP's are asking him to hold off.

So are business leaders.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/01/hundreds-of-business-leaders-call-on-trump-to-protect-dreamers/?utm_term=.79bf219b92d1

"Among the signatories: business magnate Warren Buffett, fashion designer Diane von Furstenburg, Tim Cook of Apple, Jeff Bezos of Amazon (who owns The Washington Post), Sheryl Sandberg of Facebook, and Meg Whitman of Hewlett-Packard. The companies represent a diverse array of industries, including tech, health care, hospitality, manufacturing and real estate. Marriott International and Starbucks signed. So did General Motors and Crate and Barrel.

Multiple polls have shown that about two-thirds of Americans, including Republicans and Trump supporters, favor protecting "dreamers" in some form."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obama has made a mess of things for his successors to clear up: it happened with DACA and ACA

Both were poorly thought out and in the former instance of questionable legality.

Both have massive popular support. Trump? Not so much. Good luck taking away DACA, Trump. The optics will be horrible.

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Anonymous wrote:Obama has made a mess of things for his successors to clear up: it happened with DACA and ACA

Both were poorly thought out and in the former instance of questionable legality.

Both have massive popular support. Trump? Not so much. Good luck taking away DACA, Trump. The optics will be horrible.

+1 Majority of people want to retain DACA in some form, same with ACA.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/daca-dreamers-americans-opinion-support-trump-a7922851.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/23/obamacare-tops-50-percent-support-for-first-time-new-poll-shows.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

EVERYBODY MUST KNOW THAT IF DACA IS NOT ENDED, MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL COME WITH THEIR KIDS, SO THEY WOULD BE AWARDED WITH A LEGAL STATUS IN U.S.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

EVERYBODY MUST KNOW THAT IF DACA IS NOT ENDED, MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL COME WITH THEIR KIDS, SO THEY WOULD BE AWARDED WITH A LEGAL STATUS IN U.S.

The misinformation about DACA has been a significant problem. There's nothing seriously wrong with the program, as it is. But it has been so misrepresented, in the media, in this country, in other countries. That has caused major problems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Stop trying to make the wall happen. The wall is not going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

EVERYBODY MUST KNOW THAT IF DACA IS NOT ENDED, MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL COME WITH THEIR KIDS, SO THEY WOULD BE AWARDED WITH A LEGAL STATUS IN U.S.

Your Emperor is gonna con you about ending DACA as he conned you about the wall, about bringing back manufacturing jobs that the machines ate, about labeling China a currency manipulator, about somehow ending foreign labor when he brings in foreign waitresses, about bringing back coal jobs etc etc.

Your SHOUTING tells us that you are gonna turn against him sooner than later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

EVERYBODY MUST KNOW THAT IF DACA IS NOT ENDED, MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL COME WITH THEIR KIDS, SO THEY WOULD BE AWARDED WITH A LEGAL STATUS IN U.S.

So let's just train all these kids, give them high school and college educations and then kick them out just as they are ready to make America Great and when we need more young people in the work force. Makes sense.