How many kids in Crestwood are going into middle school next year? How about the year after that?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread started with Crestwood folks complaining that they were being left to fend for themselves, but 4 pages in, they're strangely connecting themselves with 16th street heights people in the same boat.

Are you reading the same thread I am? This thread started with someone saying there weren't enough children in Crestwood to bother worrying about. We were just an asterisk. Then, folks from 16th Street Heights asked that they not be forgotten. Plus, wouldn't complaining about being left to fend for yourself and linking yourself to allies be consistent?

For the record, Crestwood and 16th Street Heights are is some what different boats for elementary schools, exactly the same boat for Deal, and different boats for Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread started with Crestwood folks complaining that they were being left to fend for themselves, but 4 pages in, they're strangely connecting themselves with 16th street heights people in the same boat.

Aren't they in the same boat (at least the part of 16th S H that is currently zoned for Deal)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16th Street Heights resident here. We moved here two years ago after our daughter got into to an elementary school charter, and we felt safe moving but wanted to ensure access to Deal and Wilson. We had more than enough reason to expect that this access would continue, given that our neighborhood, along with Crestwood, Shepherd Park, Colonial Village, and Mount Pleasant, have been inbounds for Deal and feeder access to Wilson for decades. The proposal ignores this historic access for Crestwood and 16th Street Heights and the reasonable expectations of its neighbors, and simply carves us out.

This realignment also appears to lack any explanation other than the proposal's expressed desire to align middle and high school's boundaries with our in-bound elementary school, West Elementary. Whatever the virtue of aligning these boundaries, it's not an adequate basis to cancel our existing ability to attend a quality middle and high school. If aligning boundaries is the concern, the fairer solution would be to treat Crestwood and 16th Heights the same as SP and Mt P, and assign us to a higher performing elementary school, not downgrade our middle and high school access to D and W. Equal or better, as has been said.

Moreover, the proposal offers no alternative middle school option for us at all. McFarland is currently closed and would require renovations before it could even open. To our knowledge, the only resources currently available for this is $7 million in planning funds. The proposal acknowledges this in one line stating that where a student is assigned to a school that is not yet open, they keep their existing rights until it does. But it is insensitive at best for a proposal to recommend this reassignment to take effect the day that a hypothetical school opens, instead of when parents might get an opportunity to assess it in reality.

We decided to raise our children in the DC based on our reliance on existing DC public schools available to our family. The proposal should lay out a plan for expanding and improving those opportunities into equal or better ones, not cutting or downgrading them.

This is an interesting proposal, if you don't mind driving. Which school or schools would you propose?

Keeping the goal of elementary feeders to middle and not neighborhoods, why don't they explore this more? Most CW and 16th St families don't utilize their IB school. Why not zone them for Shepherd? Shepherd is pretty low IB.

Signed SP zoned parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, we will probably move to Crestwood or 16th St Heights for it's proximity to Walter Reed and DCI when our kids get older. We are at a feeder and DCI is FAR.

Crestwood would love to have you! Lots of families with kids in DCI feeders here. It's been a wonderful place for my family. Nice yards, easy access to Rock Creek, and friendly neighbors. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about young families no longer moving here.

I'm highly interested in Crestwood for this reason. Which charters? LAMB here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, we will probably move to Crestwood or 16th St Heights for it's proximity to Walter Reed and DCI when our kids get older. We are at a feeder and DCI is FAR.

Crestwood would love to have you! Lots of families with kids in DCI feeders here. It's been a wonderful place for my family. Nice yards, easy access to Rock Creek, and friendly neighbors. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about young families no longer moving here.

I'm highly interested in Crestwood for this reason. Which charters? LAMB here.

Lots of LAMB families here. Ask around at school. Or take a walk on a nice weekend day and ask some families you see playing outside.

[Anonymous]

I'm thinking the Wilson break out discussion on Thursday at Takoma is going to be interesting.

[Anonymous]

Also 1/2 of Crestwood in IB for West and 16th Street Heights is IB for West and we share Deal. I think an out of the box strategy is to make West revert back to a prek-5 grade campus (just like Shepard and Bancroft, have those in 16th Street Heights go to West (and 1/2 or all of Crestwood) and then we get our feeder school back (which it always was a feeder school to Deal). That makes our EOTP neighborhoods fit within this new system. Just as Shepard in the proposal feeds to Deal and Wilson; 16th Street Heights (via West) would feed to Deal and Wilson (and if Crestwood wants to be in the boundary as a whole in West --as it was proposed in proposal 1 then the "feeder" school is taken care of....plus it would be consistent with the logic along the 16th Street Corridor. Then as a new Ward 4 Middle and Roosevelt improve--we will have a choice (like Shepard will have with new Ward 4 Northern Middle). Please don't flame me. Just trying to come up with out of the box solutions that might have some worth to make our neighborhoods "fit" and not be anomalies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also 1/2 of Crestwood in IB for West and 16th Street Heights is IB for West and we share Deal. I think an out of the box strategy is to make West revert back to a prek-5 grade campus (just like Shepard and Bancroft, have those in 16th Street Heights go to West (and 1/2 or all of Crestwood) and then we get our feeder school back (which it always was a feeder school to Deal). That makes our EOTP neighborhoods fit within this new system. Just as Shepard in the proposal feeds to Deal and Wilson; 16th Street Heights (via West) would feed to Deal and Wilson (and if Crestwood wants to be in the boundary as a whole in West --as it was proposed in proposal 1 then the "feeder" school is taken care of....plus it would be consistent with the logic along the 16th Street Corridor. Then as a new Ward 4 Middle and Roosevelt improve--we will have a choice (like Shepard will have with new Ward 4 Northern Middle). Please don't flame me. Just trying to come up with out of the box solutions that might have some worth to make our neighborhoods "fit" and not be anomalies.

Where did you get that Shepherd will have a choice from Deal and new MS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, we will probably move to Crestwood or 16th St Heights for it's proximity to Walter Reed and DCI when our kids get older. We are at a feeder and DCI is FAR.

Crestwood would love to have you! Lots of families with kids in DCI feeders here. It's been a wonderful place for my family. Nice yards, easy access to Rock Creek, and friendly neighbors. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about young families no longer moving here.

I'm highly interested in Crestwood for this reason. Which charters? LAMB here.

Lots of LAMB families here. Ask around at school. Or take a walk on a nice weekend day and ask some families you see playing outside.

This is great to hear. There's only two LAMB families that I know in my neighborhood- Petworth. Are the LAMB families in younger grades? We'll be in K next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also 1/2 of Crestwood in IB for West and 16th Street Heights is IB for West and we share Deal. I think an out of the box strategy is to make West revert back to a prek-5 grade campus (just like Shepard and Bancroft, have those in 16th Street Heights go to West (and 1/2 or all of Crestwood) and then we get our feeder school back (which it always was a feeder school to Deal). That makes our EOTP neighborhoods fit within this new system. Just as Shepard in the proposal feeds to Deal and Wilson; 16th Street Heights (via West) would feed to Deal and Wilson (and if Crestwood wants to be in the boundary as a whole in West --as it was proposed in proposal 1 then the "feeder" school is taken care of....plus it would be consistent with the logic along the 16th Street Corridor. Then as a new Ward 4 Middle and Roosevelt improve--we will have a choice (like Shepard will have with new Ward 4 Northern Middle). Please don't flame me. Just trying to come up with out of the box solutions that might have some worth to make our neighborhoods "fit" and not be anomalies.

Where did you get that Shepherd will have a choice from Deal and new MS?

I heard it from a DME committee member. There is of course n new middle school (location or program or funding) but it is in the planning stage with the $$ that Bowser just found...

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread started with Crestwood folks complaining that they were being left to fend for themselves, but 4 pages in, they're strangely connecting themselves with 16th street heights people in the same boat.

Are you reading the same thread I am? This thread started with someone saying there weren't enough children in Crestwood to bother worrying about. We were just an asterisk. Then, folks from 16th Street Heights asked that they not be forgotten. Plus, wouldn't complaining about being left to fend for yourself and linking yourself to allies be consistent?

For the record, Crestwood and 16th Street Heights are is some what different boats for elementary schools, exactly the same boat for Deal, and different boats for Wilson.

Aren't Crestwood and 16th Street Heights both split between Powell and West? How is that different for elementary schools?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread started with Crestwood folks complaining that they were being left to fend for themselves, but 4 pages in, they're strangely connecting themselves with 16th street heights people in the same boat.

Are you reading the same thread I am? This thread started with someone saying there weren't enough children in Crestwood to bother worrying about. We were just an asterisk. Then, folks from 16th Street Heights asked that they not be forgotten. Plus, wouldn't complaining about being left to fend for yourself and linking yourself to allies be consistent?

For the record, Crestwood and 16th Street Heights are is some what different boats for elementary schools, exactly the same boat for Deal, and different boats for Wilson.

Reread what I wrote, and it doesn't make sense to me now. Gah. But I still don't understand the office politics on this site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that this thread started with Crestwood folks complaining that they were being left to fend for themselves, but 4 pages in, they're strangely connecting themselves with 16th street heights people in the same boat.

Are you reading the same thread I am? This thread started with someone saying there weren't enough children in Crestwood to bother worrying about. We were just an asterisk. Then, folks from 16th Street Heights asked that they not be forgotten. Plus, wouldn't complaining about being left to fend for yourself and linking yourself to allies be consistent?

For the record, Crestwood and 16th Street Heights are is some what different boats for elementary schools, exactly the same boat for Deal, and different boats for Wilson.

Aren't Crestwood and 16th Street Heights both split between Powell and West? How is that different for elementary schools?

Part of the confusion could be that 16th St Heights isn't clearly defined as a neighborhood. As far as I can tell, it has three elementaries: Brightwood, West and Powell. Part of 16th St Heights feeds into Deal, and none of it is in boundary for Wilson. Crestwood is split between Powell and West, and all of the neighborhood is inbound for Deal and for Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Everyone currently in 16th Street Heights has a meter of right attendance to Deal. The new proposals are based on a feeder model not attendance zones.
The current Deal map is: http://dcps.dc.gov/DCPS/Files/downloads/Learn-About-Schools/Attn_Zones_Middle_2013_2014_10.2.pdf.

West was a feeder school to Deal until Rhee made it a k-8 campus which had no community support or community engagement.
This is 16th Street Height on Webster/Varnum street etc are IB for Powell but have attendance rights to Deal.
There are some blocks north of Kennedy that are IB for Brightwood but then have attendance rights to Deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone currently in 16th Street Heights has a meter of right attendance to Deal. The new proposals are based on a feeder model not attendance zones.
The current Deal map is: http://dcps.dc.gov/DCPS/Files/downloads/Learn-About-Schools/Attn_Zones_Middle_2013_2014_10.2.pdf.

West was a feeder school to Deal until Rhee made it a k-8 campus which had no community support or community engagement.
This is 16th Street Height on Webster/Varnum street etc are IB for Powell but have attendance rights to Deal.
There are some blocks north of Kennedy that are IB for Brightwood but then have attendance rights to Deal.

Again, maybe it has to do with defining the boundaries of 16th St Heights, but at least part of the neighborhood appears IB for Brightwood EC, not Deal. (Eg, I entered "13TH STREET NW AND NICHOLSON STREET NW" on DC's school finder -- the link wasn't working only phone for some reason.) I'm not sure how much this matters, regardless.