How many kids in Crestwood are going into middle school next year? How about the year after that?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Crestwood resident here. I bought in the neighborhood for Deal and Wilson almost three years ago. So did both of my adjacent neighbors who currently have kids in elementary school. We aren't captured in your data. If you care so little about me and my children and my neighbor's kids -- leave us alone and don't pick nasty fights on the Internet. We aren't contributing to Deal overcrowding, but retaining Deal means so very much to us.

Cutting out Crestwood out of Deal and Wilson will absolutely hurt the fabric of our neighborhood community. I don't expect people outside of our neighborhood to understand that, and I guess, if they lack basic human empathy, I suppose they won't care. We have a wonderful block where kids run around and play, we organize informal BBQs and block parties, and we wouldn't be here if it weren't for being IB for Deal and Wilson. I really believe drawing us out of Deal and Wilson will hurt the vibrancy of my neighborhood, and it breaks my heart.



Other people feel exactly the same way you felt about the kids across the street that didn't have rights to Deal. Did you lack empathy for them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Crestwood resident here. I bought in the neighborhood for Deal and Wilson almost three years ago. So did both of my adjacent neighbors who currently have kids in elementary school. We aren't captured in your data. If you care so little about me and my children and my neighbor's kids -- leave us alone and don't pick nasty fights on the Internet. We aren't contributing to Deal overcrowding, but retaining Deal means so very much to us.

Cutting out Crestwood out of Deal and Wilson will absolutely hurt the fabric of our neighborhood community. I don't expect people outside of our neighborhood to understand that, and I guess, if they lack basic human empathy, I suppose they won't care. We have a wonderful block where kids run around and play, we organize informal BBQs and block parties, and we wouldn't be here if it weren't for being IB for Deal and Wilson. I really believe drawing us out of Deal and Wilson will hurt the vibrancy of my neighborhood, and it breaks my heart.



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Anonymous wrote:Crestwood resident here. I bought in the neighborhood for Deal and Wilson almost three years ago. So did both of my adjacent neighbors who currently have kids in elementary school. We aren't captured in your data. If you care so little about me and my children and my neighbor's kids -- leave us alone and don't pick nasty fights on the Internet. We aren't contributing to Deal overcrowding, but retaining Deal means so very much to us.

Cutting out Crestwood out of Deal and Wilson will absolutely hurt the fabric of our neighborhood community. I don't expect people outside of our neighborhood to understand that, and I guess, if they lack basic human empathy, I suppose they won't care. We have a wonderful block where kids run around and play, we organize informal BBQs and block parties, and we wouldn't be here if it weren't for being IB for Deal and Wilson. I really believe drawing us out of Deal and Wilson will hurt the vibrancy of my neighborhood, and it breaks my heart.


Just curious, where did/will your (and your neighbors') kids go to elementary?


We moved here when my oldest DC was in preschool at a charter. The charter ultimately wasn't a good fit for DC, and DC will be going to elementary OOB this fall. My neighbors' kids go to charters & OOB for elementary.
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Anonymous wrote:Crestwood resident here. I bought in the neighborhood for Deal and Wilson almost three years ago. So did both of my adjacent neighbors who currently have kids in elementary school. We aren't captured in your data. If you care so little about me and my children and my neighbor's kids -- leave us alone and don't pick nasty fights on the Internet. We aren't contributing to Deal overcrowding, but retaining Deal means so very much to us.

Cutting out Crestwood out of Deal and Wilson will absolutely hurt the fabric of our neighborhood community. I don't expect people outside of our neighborhood to understand that, and I guess, if they lack basic human empathy, I suppose they won't care. We have a wonderful block where kids run around and play, we organize informal BBQs and block parties, and we wouldn't be here if it weren't for being IB for Deal and Wilson. I really believe drawing us out of Deal and Wilson will hurt the vibrancy of my neighborhood, and it breaks my heart.


Just curious, where did/will your (and your neighbors') kids go to elementary?


We moved here when my oldest DC was in preschool at a charter. The charter ultimately wasn't a good fit for DC, and DC will be going to elementary OOB this fall. My neighbors' kids go to charters & OOB for elementary.

I have to say this makes me question your argument that your neighborhood will lose a sense of community if you're cut out of Deal/Wilson. Sounds like all the kids go to different elementaries already (not your neighborhood school) and yet you still have a sense of community.
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Anonymous wrote:Crestwood resident here. I bought in the neighborhood for Deal and Wilson almost three years ago. So did both of my adjacent neighbors who currently have kids in elementary school. We aren't captured in your data. If you care so little about me and my children and my neighbor's kids -- leave us alone and don't pick nasty fights on the Internet. We aren't contributing to Deal overcrowding, but retaining Deal means so very much to us.

Cutting out Crestwood out of Deal and Wilson will absolutely hurt the fabric of our neighborhood community. I don't expect people outside of our neighborhood to understand that, and I guess, if they lack basic human empathy, I suppose they won't care. We have a wonderful block where kids run around and play, we organize informal BBQs and block parties, and we wouldn't be here if it weren't for being IB for Deal and Wilson. I really believe drawing us out of Deal and Wilson will hurt the vibrancy of my neighborhood, and it breaks my heart.



Other people feel exactly the same way you felt about the kids across the street that didn't have rights to Deal. Did you lack empathy for them?


I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you asking if I lack empathy for 16th St Heights folks? Of course not! I don't think any family should be forced to move their children to a school that isn't equal or better than their current option. I think 13:37's point is a good one and relevant here -- this process is hurting communities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:let Crestwood's complaint be its own and no one else's.

One child isn't a trend needing a policy fix. Less than 20 students entering Deal came from unknown places, charters, out-of-state, etc.


Sounds like you are a bit peeved that there are Crestwood and 16th street Heights families that have/had access to Deal. Many of us bought in this area specifically for that access and live in homes that cost significantly less than those within the proposed new boundary for Deal. I am one such resident. I am not looking for your empathy, but seeking to find out from similarly impacted residents what we might do to advocate for a different outcome. That is, after all, at least one reason why people regularly post to this forum. If you are not interested in the concerns of your fellow citizens residing in Crestwood then skip the post and move on to reading about whether anyone else "finds the social scene at Janney hard to take".

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Anonymous wrote:Crestwood resident here. I bought in the neighborhood for Deal and Wilson almost three years ago. So did both of my adjacent neighbors who currently have kids in elementary school. We aren't captured in your data. If you care so little about me and my children and my neighbor's kids -- leave us alone and don't pick nasty fights on the Internet. We aren't contributing to Deal overcrowding, but retaining Deal means so very much to us.

Cutting out Crestwood out of Deal and Wilson will absolutely hurt the fabric of our neighborhood community. I don't expect people outside of our neighborhood to understand that, and I guess, if they lack basic human empathy, I suppose they won't care. We have a wonderful block where kids run around and play, we organize informal BBQs and block parties, and we wouldn't be here if it weren't for being IB for Deal and Wilson. I really believe drawing us out of Deal and Wilson will hurt the vibrancy of my neighborhood, and it breaks my heart.


Just curious, where did/will your (and your neighbors') kids go to elementary?


We moved here when my oldest DC was in preschool at a charter. The charter ultimately wasn't a good fit for DC, and DC will be going to elementary OOB this fall. My neighbors' kids go to charters & OOB for elementary.

I have to say this makes me question your argument that your neighborhood will lose a sense of community if you're cut out of Deal/Wilson. Sounds like all the kids go to different elementaries already (not your neighborhood school) and yet you still have a sense of community.


My point is that none of these families with young children would have moved here if Crestwood weren't IB for Deal and Wilson. Without D & W, families like mine and my neighbors' won't be moving here anymore.
Anonymous
But if families don't mind the lack of an acceptable local elementary and they're willing to go all over the city to OOB and charters, why should they mind doing the same for middle and high school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:practically no one enters Deal via the geographic boundary. Its students come via the feeder elementaries, for which neither Crestwood nor 16th St Hts are in the boundaries.

Number of 6th Graders entering Deal this school year:
Lafayette: 86
Janney: 72
Murch: 53
Bancroft: 44
Eaton: 34
Shepherd: 29
Hearst: 27
Oyster: 11
Key: 6

31 students went to schools from which less than 5 went to Deal, e.g., West, Powell, Brightwood.

They didn't know where 20 students went to school due to errors, moving from somewhere out of state, etc.

All this to say, feeder rights remaining in effect, the best analysis is that there are few Crestwood and 16th Street Heights Deal students and that their losing geographical boundary rights to Deal will have no significant effect on how they access their preferred schools west of Rock Creek Park.

http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Feeder%20Pattern%20Analysis%20of%20DCPS%20Middle%20or%20MS%26HS%20Education%20Campuses_4.2.14.pdf

All this to say, again, I'm not crying over the tiny numbers of people who are losing boundary rights they aren't using anyway.



Many Crestwood kids currently are out of boundary at these schools, so would be part of this population.
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Anonymous wrote:Crestwood resident here. I bought in the neighborhood for Deal and Wilson almost three years ago. So did both of my adjacent neighbors who currently have kids in elementary school. We aren't captured in your data. If you care so little about me and my children and my neighbor's kids -- leave us alone and don't pick nasty fights on the Internet. We aren't contributing to Deal overcrowding, but retaining Deal means so very much to us.

Cutting out Crestwood out of Deal and Wilson will absolutely hurt the fabric of our neighborhood community. I don't expect people outside of our neighborhood to understand that, and I guess, if they lack basic human empathy, I suppose they won't care. We have a wonderful block where kids run around and play, we organize informal BBQs and block parties, and we wouldn't be here if it weren't for being IB for Deal and Wilson. I really believe drawing us out of Deal and Wilson will hurt the vibrancy of my neighborhood, and it breaks my heart.


Just curious, where did/will your (and your neighbors') kids go to elementary?


We moved here when my oldest DC was in preschool at a charter. The charter ultimately wasn't a good fit for DC, and DC will be going to elementary OOB this fall. My neighbors' kids go to charters & OOB for elementary.

I have to say this makes me question your argument that your neighborhood will lose a sense of community if you're cut out of Deal/Wilson. Sounds like all the kids go to different elementaries already (not your neighborhood school) and yet you still have a sense of community.


My point is that none of these families with young children would have moved here if Crestwood weren't IB for Deal and Wilson. Without D & W, families like mine and my neighbors' won't be moving here anymore.


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Anonymous
FWIW, we will probably move to Crestwood or 16th St Heights for it's proximity to Walter Reed and DCI when our kids get older. We are at a feeder and DCI is FAR.
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Anonymous wrote:But if families don't mind the lack of an acceptable local elementary and they're willing to go all over the city to OOB and charters, why should they mind doing the same for middle and high school?


The trend has been that families who are living elsewhere get into a charter or desirable DCPS elementary school. They then move to Crestwood, knowing that elementary is taken care of, in order to secure middle and high school. This trend will come to an abrupt halt.

More recently, even younger families have started moving to Crestwood because of Powell. Deal and Roosevelt may have also been part of their equation. This is the group for whom a new MacFarland and revitalized Roosevelt might make sense. The problem is that the proposed transition is much too short.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But if families don't mind the lack of an acceptable local elementary and they're willing to go all over the city to OOB and charters, why should they mind doing the same for middle and high school?



My family, and the families I am speaking of, were already in at sought after elementary charters when we moved here. We all wanted a guaranteed, highly-performing, comprehensive MS and HS. There aren't that many spots at the top charters and I know I never wanted to go through the lottery process again -- especially if it meant we would had to move again if we were shut out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FWIW, we will probably move to Crestwood or 16th St Heights for it's proximity to Walter Reed and DCI when our kids get older. We are at a feeder and DCI is FAR.


Crestwood would love to have you! Lots of families with kids in DCI feeders here. It's been a wonderful place for my family. Nice yards, easy access to Rock Creek, and friendly neighbors. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about young families no longer moving here.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But if families don't mind the lack of an acceptable local elementary and they're willing to go all over the city to OOB and charters, why should they mind doing the same for middle and high school?


The trend has been that families who are living elsewhere get into a charter or desirable DCPS elementary school. They then move to Crestwood, knowing that elementary is taken care of, in order to secure middle and high school. This trend will come to an abrupt halt.

More recently, even younger families have started moving to Crestwood because of Powell. Deal and Roosevelt may have also been part of their equation. This is the group for whom a new MacFarland and revitalized Roosevelt might make sense. The problem is that the proposed transition is much too short.


Seriously??? I have NEVER heard any one of my neighbors or friends' neighbors on other streets who mention Roosevelt in their equation for selecting Crestwood. I, for one, didn't even know that Roosevelt existed until this whole school thing started and it was mentioned on DCUM. I was like, "Ohhh, that's what that big football field by the library is about..."
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