Connecticut Avenue bike lane officially dead

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

The point is for people that enjoy biking to meet each other and bike together in a safe group in case any drivers attempt violence

A curious rationale indeed for an event designed to provoke drivers!

I keep thinking back to the person who thought bikers were the ones that were self obsessed

Except that some of you have explicitly said that that is the reason for this event.

Just for you I went back and read every post today about the party and don't see anything along those lines

Why do you all like to lie so much.

It's about 3-5 pages back. Some crazy guy talking about BIPOC, his entitlement, and how he pays taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

The point is for people that enjoy biking to meet each other and bike together in a safe group in case any drivers attempt violence

A curious rationale indeed for an event designed to provoke drivers!

I keep thinking back to the person who thought bikers were the ones that were self obsessed

Except that some of you have explicitly said that that is the reason for this event.

Just for you I went back and read every post today about the party and don't see anything along those lines

Why do you all like to lie so much.

It's about 3-5 pages back. Some crazy guy talking about BIPOC, his entitlement, and how he pays taxes.

Why don't you go ahead and find that post and repost it here.

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Blocking traffic at rush hour is not about being jerks to drivers? Isn't that the entire point?

No. It's about riding bikes, making friends, and having fun. It's not about you.

Thanks for admitting that the purpose is an illegal assembly without a permit.

??????

You seem seriously unhinged.

You think it’s legal to use public roads as a meetup with your friends while obstructing traffic?

What you are calling "obstructing traffic" is transportation on a bicycle, which is perfectly legal. If you don't like it, support bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

The point is for people that enjoy biking to meet each other and bike together in a safe group in case any drivers attempt violence

A curious rationale indeed for an event designed to provoke drivers!

You are simply making the point that the presence of anyone on a bike is provocative. It is really quite sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

It’s like the climate protestors who block traffic or the pro-Palestinian protestors who block traffic. They aren’t looking to persuade people or get support. They are simply seeking to protest.

This isn't a protest. It is a group ride from one location to another, that happens all the time. The only difference is that you are hearing about it before hand. In the years it has taken place, you have never once heard about it or complained about it. So again, it really has never impacted you, so why are you getting upset?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

and they wonder why everyone hates them

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Anonymous wrote:Riding a bike on Connecticut avenue seems a bit like playing with a gun. You can totally do it! It is your right! But don't be surprised when something happens that you didnt anticipate and you are in a catastrophic accident.

You can play with a gun all day long and not hurt anyone, provided you just follow a few very simple rules.

You can also ride on Connecticut Ave and dramatically reduce the danger to yourself just by following a few very simple rules, too:

1) Stop at red lights and wait for them to turn green.

2) Don’t pass cars making right turns on the car’s right side.

3) Don’t shoal past traffic waiting at red lights.

4) Don’t do Idaho stops at stop signs. STOP at stop signs.





Do just those four things and your odds go up tremendously. It might never be as safe as playing with a gun, but it’ll be much safer than the way most cyclists ride normally.

5. Learn the how Idaho stops work. If *anyone* else at an intersection has the right of way, the bicyclist must stop at the stop sign.

6. Stop putting small children on bikes

7. If you insist on riding your bike at night, wear a reflective vest

8. Wear a friggin' helmet

Cyclists don't seem to understand Idaho stops at all. They've interpreted as they don't have to stop for anything ever.

It’s exactly why it’s bad law for public safety. The rules need to be clear and enforceable. This is the precise reason why safety advocates request stop signs in the first place.

Please don't speak for cyclists. That refers to you and the PP. I know exactly how to Idaho stop, as well as the benefits it provides to the public

You say you do but that puts you in the minority. I have yet to see a cyclist do a “legal” one.

I personally would like a law that legally allows electric cars to do California stops. Only climate deniers would oppose such a reasonable energy efficiency measure.

Why just electric cars? The biggest environmental benefit would be for gasoline cars. Starting from a cold stop is the most polluting and gas intensive part of driving.

The reason Idaho stops are safer is because bikes spend less time in intersections which are the most dangerous places on the road.

That should go for cars too. It would be safer for everyone if drivers didn’t stop at any intersections so they can get through them faster.

It's also why there should be no speed limits for anyone. Drivers would get where they need to go faster which means less time on the roads which obviously means fewer accidents and safer streets for everyone.

This is total BS. I love the way that the Bike Bros are always talking about the Netherlands. Guess what, in the Netherlands as in most other European countries, cyclists come to a full stop at a red signal or a stop sign and obey the other laws. When entitled DC cyclists start doing the same thing, then talk to us about Holland.

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

It’s like the climate protestors who block traffic or the pro-Palestinian protestors who block traffic. They aren’t looking to persuade people or get support. They are simply seeking to protest.

This isn't a protest. It is a group ride from one location to another, that happens all the time. The only difference is that you are hearing about it before hand. In the years it has taken place, you have never once heard about it or complained about it. So again, it really has never impacted you, so why are you getting upset?

The name itself “bike party” indicates that the purpose is assembly, not transportation.

In addition, the event creates real public safety risks to non-participants, including impacts on emergency response times. That is the reason why it’s illegal without a permit.

Blocking roadways is not legal, even if you’re doing it for your own enjoyment.

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There are multiple other examples where groups of people use the road in ways that slow drivers down. Funeral processions. Politicians' motorcades. Sometimes whole streets get shut down for festivals or markets, pushing traffic to other roads. You are not entitled to a commute that takes a particular amount of time on every day because there are other people who want to use that space for other things. It's entirely different than a protest which has a goal of slowing down or stopping traffic.

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

It’s like the climate protestors who block traffic or the pro-Palestinian protestors who block traffic. They aren’t looking to persuade people or get support. They are simply seeking to protest.

This isn't a protest. It is a group ride from one location to another, that happens all the time. The only difference is that you are hearing about it before hand. In the years it has taken place, you have never once heard about it or complained about it. So again, it really has never impacted you, so why are you getting upset?

The name itself “bike party” indicates that the purpose is assembly, not transportation.

In addition, the event creates real public safety risks to non-participants, including impacts on emergency response times. That is the reason why it’s illegal without a permit.

Blocking roadways is not legal, even if you’re doing it for your own enjoyment.

It's using the roadways, not blocking them. No different for ER vehicles than if cars were in a lane of traffic

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

-DC Bike Party is not about you, a random driver.
-Yes, it is about me!
-No, really it isn't.
-It is! It is! It's about me.
-No, it's not.
-It's about me! It couldn't not be about me!
-It's really not about you.
-Me! Me! It's about me!

You have no response except "nuh uh"?

There's thousands of streets in DC. If cyclists create an event designed to slow car traffic, and they hold it on one of the busiest streets in the city, at a time of the day when it's likely to inconvenience the most number of drivers possible, then everyone is going to see that for what it is.

I say more power to them. I think cyclists are a bunch of obnoxious a-holes and with events like this, they quite effectively, if inadvertently, prove my point.

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[Anonymous]

Interesting how the Bike Bros think it's great to stage a group slowdown on Connecticut Avenue. But when people are with their little kids or senior citizens are out for a walk on the Capital Crescent Trail, the Bike Bros basically force pedestrians to the side of the trail, lest they slow down their Tour de Lycra.