Connecticut Avenue bike lane officially dead

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Anonymous wrote:Riding a bike on Connecticut avenue seems a bit like playing with a gun. You can totally do it! It is your right! But don't be surprised when something happens that you didnt anticipate and you are in a catastrophic accident.

You can play with a gun all day long and not hurt anyone, provided you just follow a few very simple rules.

You can also ride on Connecticut Ave and dramatically reduce the danger to yourself just by following a few very simple rules, too:

1) Stop at red lights and wait for them to turn green.

2) Don’t pass cars making right turns on the car’s right side.

3) Don’t shoal past traffic waiting at red lights.

4) Don’t do Idaho stops at stop signs. STOP at stop signs.





Do just those four things and your odds go up tremendously. It might never be as safe as playing with a gun, but it’ll be much safer than the way most cyclists ride normally.

5. Learn the how Idaho stops work. If *anyone* else at an intersection has the right of way, the bicyclist must stop at the stop sign.

6. Stop putting small children on bikes

7. If you insist on riding your bike at night, wear a reflective vest

8. Wear a friggin' helmet

Cyclists don't seem to understand Idaho stops at all. They've interpreted as they don't have to stop for anything ever.

It’s exactly why it’s bad law for public safety. The rules need to be clear and enforceable. This is the precise reason why safety advocates request stop signs in the first place.

Please don't speak for cyclists. That refers to you and the PP. I know exactly how to Idaho stop, as well as the benefits it provides to the public

You say you do but that puts you in the minority. I have yet to see a cyclist do a “legal” one.

I personally would like a law that legally allows electric cars to do California stops. Only climate deniers would oppose such a reasonable energy efficiency measure.

Why just electric cars? The biggest environmental benefit would be for gasoline cars. Starting from a cold stop is the most polluting and gas intensive part of driving.

This all seems so limiting. Streets are for everyone. They should remove all traffic signals at every intersection. That has to be the way to go. No way that would be bad at all.

So that would actually be safer for everyone, but because there would be MORE slowing and stopping, not less. Basically, every intersection would be a four-way stop - at least for drivers who want to avoid being hit by other drivers.

Your goal is to turn DC into a third world city. Wow.

Do you know what first world cities have? Bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

How is riding a bike being a dick? Please explain.


(see this is the problem!)

Because you're using the road and they think they should be the only ones to use the road at the infamous 7:30 rush hour. The threats of violence also show that they know drivers exhibit the bad behavior they've spent 30 pages projecting onto bikers.

Bikers are allowed to use the road. Laws matter. Do you seriously beleive it is against the law to ride a bike on a road (other than an interstate highway?)

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

Please explain how a group of people riding bikes on a street after 7:30 pm on a weekday is "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers".

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

Are you? This is a recurring event. That you have never noticed it means that it has never impacted you, so why do you care?

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

Pre-meditated jerkiness!

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

-DC Bike Party is not about you, a random driver.
-Yes, it is about me!
-No, really it isn't.
-It is! It is! It's about me.
-No, it's not.
-It's about me! It couldn't not be about me!
-It's really not about you.
-Me! Me! It's about me!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Well, it certainly sounds like you're going out of your way, even setting a time and date in advance, to be an *sshole to countless perfect strangers.

DC Bike Party is about a group of people riding bikes - in this case, on Connecticut Ave, after 7:30 pm, on a weekday. If you think that's "being a jerk to countless perfect strangers", that's a you issue.

Are you really this obtuse?

This is a classic PF response on twitter when they don't have a real response

The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.

The point is for people that enjoy biking to meet each other and bike together in a safe group in case any drivers attempt violence

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Blocking traffic at rush hour is not about being jerks to drivers? Isn't that the entire point?

7:30 isn't rush hour.
Riding a bike on a street isn't "blocking traffic" - and if you really feel this way, then you should sign the petition for bike lanes on Connectitcut Avenue because guess what, more people are going to be biking on it and people driving cars are just going to have to live with it. That is what the voters of Maryland and Ward 4 convinced the mayor to do.

There's less than 100 people that regularly bike it. Have your fun, it's a one off event.

The voters of MD and Ward 4 do not support bike lanes. ANC's are not legislators. It's a volunteer position.

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Blocking traffic at rush hour is not about being jerks to drivers? Isn't that the entire point?

No. It's about riding bikes, making friends, and having fun. It's not about you.

Thanks for admitting that the purpose is an illegal assembly without a permit.

[Anonymous]

I honestly think it was mostly a financial decision. Yes, they settled on Concept C, but once they got into the design process, there were issues that had not been accounted for such as the 300 + driveways along Connecticut. Dealing with all of this was not impossible, but it would require going back to the drawing board, which is expensive at a time when the city is facing years of tight budgets. That plus the mayor's stated desire to bring people downtown add up to maintaining the most major route downtown. I live in NW and though I mostly work from home, when I go downtown, I drive. It's generally faster and more reliable than the Metro, and I'm not inclined to bike downtown for dinner, theatre, or business meetings. The same is true for most people I know. It's not only Marylanders who oppose the bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think it was mostly a financial decision. Yes, they settled on Concept C, but once they got into the design process, there were issues that had not been accounted for such as the 300 + driveways along Connecticut. Dealing with all of this was not impossible, but it would require going back to the drawing board, which is expensive at a time when the city is facing years of tight budgets. That plus the mayor's stated desire to bring people downtown add up to maintaining the most major route downtown. I live in NW and though I mostly work from home, when I go downtown, I drive. It's generally faster and more reliable than the Metro, and I'm not inclined to bike downtown for dinner, theatre, or business meetings. The same is true for most people I know. It's not only Marylanders who oppose the bike lanes.

no tears for people who drive instead of metro.

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Anonymous wrote:Bike Party is heading up and down Conn Ave today. Join the fun at 7:30pm at Dupont.

Things like this just teach people to hate cyclists.

Sounds pretty fun to me

Ok, well don't complain when drivers are dicks to you too. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

What are you talking about? I don't like it when drivers are jerks when I'm driving. Or when I'm bicycling. Or when I'm walking. Or even when I'm just sitting somewhere. "Don't be a jerk when you drive" seems like a basic good principle.

I'm sorry if you think the bike party people are out there to make you miserable, because they're not. They're not thinking about you at all.

Blocking traffic at rush hour is not about being jerks to drivers? Isn't that the entire point?

No. It's about riding bikes, making friends, and having fun. It's not about you.

Thanks for admitting that the purpose is an illegal assembly without a permit.

:shock:

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think it was mostly a financial decision. Yes, they settled on Concept C, but once they got into the design process, there were issues that had not been accounted for such as the 300 + driveways along Connecticut. Dealing with all of this was not impossible, but it would require going back to the drawing board, which is expensive at a time when the city is facing years of tight budgets. That plus the mayor's stated desire to bring people downtown add up to maintaining the most major route downtown. I live in NW and though I mostly work from home, when I go downtown, I drive. It's generally faster and more reliable than the Metro, and I'm not inclined to bike downtown for dinner, theatre, or business meetings. The same is true for most people I know. It's not only Marylanders who oppose the bike lanes.

the most major route downtown is Metro