Age versus bedtime

Anonymous
Kids are 4 and 8. Bedtime is 8:30-9 dependinf. That means in bed at 8:30 and they read books or play quietly then. Both are up at 7. Even on weekends.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid's elementary school starts at 7:30. Very very few my kid's classmates participate in weekday sports or weekday activities outside of low-intensity stuff like art, music, and Kumon-type tutoring.

In contrast, my brother's kids go to an elementary school in the same area that starts at 9:00 and according to his observation, half or more kids are in weekday sports, including his. So I'm guessing it all depends very much on school start times.

I used to be envious that his kids' school starts later, but it also dismisses later, which pushes everything else much later. Pick your poison?

This is where alot of the problem is, Schools should not be in session before 8:30am or after 3:00pm, 7:30 is just too early.


I agree, but I have zero control over it. My kid and all her classmates have to go bed much earlier than many kids and that's just the way it is.

Not as a single person but you would be surprised what enough parents acting together can do, unfortunately though it's hard to get people to work together on issues like this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid's elementary school starts at 7:30. Very very few my kid's classmates participate in weekday sports or weekday activities outside of low-intensity stuff like art, music, and Kumon-type tutoring.

In contrast, my brother's kids go to an elementary school in the same area that starts at 9:00 and according to his observation, half or more kids are in weekday sports, including his. So I'm guessing it all depends very much on school start times.

I used to be envious that his kids' school starts later, but it also dismisses later, which pushes everything else much later. Pick your poison?


Why
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid's elementary school starts at 7:30. Very very few my kid's classmates participate in weekday sports or weekday activities outside of low-intensity stuff like art, music, and Kumon-type tutoring.

In contrast, my brother's kids go to an elementary school in the same area that starts at 9:00 and according to his observation, half or more kids are in weekday sports, including his. So I'm guessing it all depends very much on school start times.

I used to be envious that his kids' school starts later, but it also dismisses later, which pushes everything else much later. Pick your poison?

This is where alot of the problem is, Schools should not be in session before 8:30am or after 3:00pm, 7:30 is just too early.


K-2 my son attended a school that started at 745 and it was great. Wake up, out the door, parents go to work. We moved to fairfax county and the 920 start is so late, i hate it. It really messes with working parents, and most kids wake up early. He is awake at 7, and could spend his morning learning instead of dragging through the afternoon hours like he does now.

Just commenting that not everyone agrees that later start times are a good thing.
Anonymous
My 9 year old daughter goes to bed at 8:30 and is up at 7 am on her own. Even on weekends. Occasionally she will stay up until 9 pm for special occasions or even in the summer but she never sleeps past 7:30 am no matter what so we are pretty consistent. She gets into bed at 8 and reads until 8:30.
Anonymous
Kids need a lot of sleep. The smug judgmental parents here making fun of parents with early bedtimes at 7-8pm don’t have a clue.

Our kids go to sleep at 8pm and wake up at 6:30. That’s only 9.5 hrs of sleep. It’s not excessive.
Anonymous
I’m working late cause I’m a singer
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kids need a lot of sleep. The smug judgmental parents here making fun of parents with early bedtimes at 7-8pm don’t have a clue.

Our kids go to sleep at 8pm and wake up at 6:30. That’s only 9.5 hrs of sleep. It’s not excessive.

10.5 I mean.
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Anonymous wrote:We used to eat dinner at 5:30 and aim to be reading bedtime story by 6:30. But with elementary school and sports schedules, we are often eating at 7 and in bed closer to 8. Sometimes he doesn’t sleep right away. Is he getting enough sleep? Wake up is at 7am or a little earlier.

I’m surprised that the teams near us catering to 6-7 year olds are scheduling games at 6:30. That seems so late for kindergarten players.


Nuts

+1 There is no justifiable reason to have a kid in bed before 9:00pm or sunset.



All the elementary kids I teach say they’re tired all the time and can not focus on class. It’s not nuts to have kids go to bed earlier. Honestly, it’s no wonder we have discipline problems at school. Parents who think 9pm is appropriate bedtime for a 6 year old is probably letting their 10/11 year old stay up until 11pm. They can’t focus!!!


Everything depends on the time they wake up. My kids get up at 8am, so bedtime is also later.
Anonymous
Two DDs here, 4yo and 8yo. We start bedtime between 7:30-7:45, lights out at 8:15.
Older DD's elementary school (LCPS) starts at 8AM, but her bus arrives at 7:30, so she gets up for the day at 6:45. Younger DD is in daycare and gets up at 7AM for a dropoff time of 7:45.

Both of my girls are morning types, so they don't sleep in on weekends, either. Everyone is usually up by 7AM then, too (unfortunately...I prefer to be a night owl and sleep in, but my kids have other ideas).
Anonymous
10yo sleeps ~9.5 hours (930p-7a)
7yo sleeps ~10 hours (930p-730a)

Just like adults, kids require different amounts of sleep, there's no universal number. A reasonable range? Sure, most reputable sources (CDC, Mayo Clinic, etc.) say 9-12 hours for kids our age (6-12yo).

I think our 7yo would benefit from an additional 30 mins sleep, but even if we lights-out early at 8p or 830p she can't seem to fall asleep much before 930p (and yes, we've tried a wide variety of approaches to encourage earlier drifting off to sleep time). 730a is the latest wake up time to reliably get to school on time, but in the summer she tends to sleep the additional 30 mins until 8a. I'm just glad school doesn't start any earlier than it does.

Research also generally suggests best to go to bed after sunset (to best align with body's natural cycle of melatonin release / circadian rhythms)... but definitely before midnight (even for adults) to ensure we get enough of the most restorative deep sleep cycles in before morning light enters the room.

Some people are early risers, some are more night owls, but we all do our best within the constraints of school times, activities, family logistics, and individual preferences.

But around here, we've got 6 months of late sunset (715-830p), 4 months of early sunset (445-6p), and 2 months in between. As such, even when our kids were younger they rarely went to bed before 8-830p so we could keep a pretty consistent year-round sleep schedule without putting them down before dusk.
Anonymous
I'm always surprised to see kids with absurdly early bedtimes. I realize all kids are different and some are lower energy than others, but I can't get mine to even eat dinner before 7pm - they want to play outside with their friends. Our street is super tight knit, all the kids get major FOMO if they're forced to go in very early. The amount of moms I've met over the years who send their kids to bed early with iPads so they can chug alcohol... smh. Not saying this is you, OP. I just hope these "early to bed" folks are doing it legitimately for their kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm always surprised to see kids with absurdly early bedtimes. I realize all kids are different and some are lower energy than others, but I can't get mine to even eat dinner before 7pm - they want to play outside with their friends. Our street is super tight knit, all the kids get major FOMO if they're forced to go in very early. The amount of moms I've met over the years who send their kids to bed early with iPads so they can chug alcohol... smh. Not saying this is you, OP. I just hope these "early to bed" folks are doing it legitimately for their kids.


Im always surprised to see parents who don't understand that other schools have earlier start times than their own, thus some kids have to go to bed earlier. I'm guessing you don't work in a profession that requires good analytical skills and knowledge of the world beyond your tiny bubble
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm always surprised to see kids with absurdly early bedtimes. I realize all kids are different and some are lower energy than others, but I can't get mine to even eat dinner before 7pm - they want to play outside with their friends. Our street is super tight knit, all the kids get major FOMO if they're forced to go in very early. The amount of moms I've met over the years who send their kids to bed early with iPads so they can chug alcohol... smh. Not saying this is you, OP. I just hope these "early to bed" folks are doing it legitimately for their kids.


Im always surprised to see parents who don't understand that other schools have earlier start times than their own, thus some kids have to go to bed earlier. I'm guessing you don't work in a profession that requires good analytical skills and knowledge of the world beyond your tiny bubble


What's the early start time for bedtime story at 6:30pm? 3am?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid's elementary school starts at 7:30. Very very few my kid's classmates participate in weekday sports or weekday activities outside of low-intensity stuff like art, music, and Kumon-type tutoring.

In contrast, my brother's kids go to an elementary school in the same area that starts at 9:00 and according to his observation, half or more kids are in weekday sports, including his. So I'm guessing it all depends very much on school start times.

I used to be envious that his kids' school starts later, but it also dismisses later, which pushes everything else much later. Pick your poison?

This is where alot of the problem is, Schools should not be in session before 8:30am or after 3:00pm, 7:30 is just too early.


I agree, but I have zero control over it. My kid and all her classmates have to go bed much earlier than many kids and that's just the way it is.

Not as a single person but you would be surprised what enough parents acting together can do, unfortunately though it's hard to get people to work together on issues like this.


Oh look, big talker is going to change a school's start time.
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