For those who would really like to know Hillary beyond the caricature

[Anonymous]

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LOL sure...you sound like all those conservatives talking about Obama. You auctually have to get people to vote for your canidate. I am beginning to think Trump has a good chance because Hillary and company have not made a case to vote for Hillary. You know the under 35 vote is almost split even between Hillary, the 3rd party and Trump? Its Hillary's job to get those votes. She is failing because there is little difference between her and trump. Look at the unfavorable number one is at 62%, the other has 60%. When you talk about how bad the other person is all the time, you are not making a case for yourself.

I sound like I'm talking about Obama how, exactly?

Great, the under 35 vote is seems completely ignorant. What does that have to do with you, who I presume are around 45? Hillary's failing because of misogyny, the press isn't doing their job, and uneducated voters like you. If you think that there is little difference between Hillary and Donald, there is not enough intelligence in the world to straighten out that crooked ass worldview.

Enjoy your last little protest vote. Stein seems like.... not a great candidate, but you don't seem to care.

Back to misogyny - LOL!

Sorry that does not work. I would not vote for a man with Hillary's appalling record in terms of her honesty and poor judgement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL sure...you sound like all those conservatives talking about Obama. You auctually have to get people to vote for your canidate. I am beginning to think Trump has a good chance because Hillary and company have not made a case to vote for Hillary. You know the under 35 vote is almost split even between Hillary, the 3rd party and Trump? Its Hillary's job to get those votes. She is failing because there is little difference between her and trump. Look at the unfavorable number one is at 62%, the other has 60%. When you talk about how bad the other person is all the time, you are not making a case for yourself.

I sound like I'm talking about Obama how, exactly?

Great, the under 35 vote is seems completely ignorant. What does that have to do with you, who I presume are around 45? Hillary's failing because of misogyny, the press isn't doing their job, and uneducated voters like you. If you think that there is little difference between Hillary and Donald, there is not enough intelligence in the world to straighten out that crooked ass worldview.

Enjoy your last little protest vote. Stein seems like.... not a great candidate, but you don't seem to care.

Back to misogyny - LOL!

Sorry that does not work. I would not vote for a man with Hillary's appalling record in terms of her honesty and poor judgement.

But you would rather directly or indirectly vote for a man who is the single biggest LIAR in the history of American politics according to fact checkers. You would rather vote for the man who had the judgment to fail business after business including Trump Uni, Trump real estate, Trump casinos, Trump airline, Trump steaks etc. Some one who trolls like a teenager on twitter(and you may not even like if your teenager does that).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL sure...you sound like all those conservatives talking about Obama. You auctually have to get people to vote for your canidate. I am beginning to think Trump has a good chance because Hillary and company have not made a case to vote for Hillary. You know the under 35 vote is almost split even between Hillary, the 3rd party and Trump? Its Hillary's job to get those votes. She is failing because there is little difference between her and trump. Look at the unfavorable number one is at 62%, the other has 60%. When you talk about how bad the other person is all the time, you are not making a case for yourself.

I sound like I'm talking about Obama how, exactly?

Great, the under 35 vote is seems completely ignorant. What does that have to do with you, who I presume are around 45? Hillary's failing because of misogyny, the press isn't doing their job, and uneducated voters like you. If you think that there is little difference between Hillary and Donald, there is not enough intelligence in the world to straighten out that crooked ass worldview.

Enjoy your last little protest vote. Stein seems like.... not a great candidate, but you don't seem to care.

Back to misogyny - LOL!

Sorry that does not work. I would not vote for a man with Hillary's appalling record in terms of her honesty and poor judgement.

But you would rather directly or indirectly vote for a man who is the single biggest LIAR in the history of American politics according to fact checkers. You would rather vote for the man who had the judgment to fail business after business including Trump Uni, Trump real estate, Trump casinos, Trump airline, Trump steaks etc. Some one who trolls like a teenager on twitter(and you may not even like if your teenager does that).

Trump does not deserve my vote ........ but neither does Hillary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL sure...you sound like all those conservatives talking about Obama. You auctually have to get people to vote for your canidate. I am beginning to think Trump has a good chance because Hillary and company have not made a case to vote for Hillary. You know the under 35 vote is almost split even between Hillary, the 3rd party and Trump? Its Hillary's job to get those votes. She is failing because there is little difference between her and trump. Look at the unfavorable number one is at 62%, the other has 60%. When you talk about how bad the other person is all the time, you are not making a case for yourself.

I sound like I'm talking about Obama how, exactly?

Great, the under 35 vote is seems completely ignorant. What does that have to do with you, who I presume are around 45? Hillary's failing because of misogyny, the press isn't doing their job, and uneducated voters like you. If you think that there is little difference between Hillary and Donald, there is not enough intelligence in the world to straighten out that crooked ass worldview.

Enjoy your last little protest vote. Stein seems like.... not a great candidate, but you don't seem to care.

Back to misogyny - LOL!

Sorry that does not work. I would not vote for a man with Hillary's appalling record in terms of her honesty and poor judgement.

But you would rather directly or indirectly vote for a man who is the single biggest LIAR in the history of American politics according to fact checkers. You would rather vote for the man who had the judgment to fail business after business including Trump Uni, Trump real estate, Trump casinos, Trump airline, Trump steaks etc. Some one who trolls like a teenager on twitter(and you may not even like if your teenager does that).

Trump does not deserve my vote ........ but neither does Hillary.

False equivalence. One of them has relevant experience, one does not. One acts like a normal person in public, the other is a national embarrassment. One of them has the endorsement of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, the other has endorsements from the opposite party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They don't want to get to know her, because that might challenge their deep misogyny.

Its just boggles my mind that many do not want to know Clinton, neither they want to truly understand Trump's despicable past, yet will claim Trump will save the world from the satanic Hillary.

Being critical of her, or not liking her, does NOT mean you like or support Trump.

You have two choices. If you don't vote Clinton, you are supporting Trump. Actions speak louder than words.

pp here.

No, it isn't support of Trump.

And yet that is the effect a third party vote will have, no matter how much you like to think your meaningless little protest will occur in a vacuum. I don't know if you're a man or white or how well off you are, but the fact is that if Trump wins, people who did not vote for Hillary are going to have a lot worse than the Bush years ever could have been on their conscience. That's not "bullying," sensitive sally, that's a fact. What kind of climate work would we have done under Gore vs Bush? How much less gerrymandering might have occurred? I actually doubt 9/11 would have unfolded as it did, not to mention the bizarro reaction of attacking two unrelated nations. But you do you, I guess. Go Stein.

pp again.

You sure do think highly of yourself. Declaring a vote as meaningless because a candidate can't win. Many men and women have fought, and some have died, to protect that right but you want me to sell it based on your view. And why are you so concerned that if I don't vote for her and select another candidate it insures a victory for Trump?

Well, here's the deal. So long as the electoral college is set up the way it is there are a lot of votes that will have no impact on the outcome. Should we get that changed so that each candidate receives the percentage of delegates based on their vote total in EVERY state then more people are likely to vote. After all, they vote will be counted and not negated by the majority takes it all.

And FYI, you are talking to different people. I did not declare my vote for Stein.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is fun to watch these posters (likely from Correct the Record) work so hard to try to convince some of us not to “throw away” our vote.
You might want to seek a real job. Your position at CTR will disappear in a couple of months.

Some of you keep saying this. It's really offensive that you think that anyone who likes Hillary must necessarily be paid. It makes me believe that the PP who thinks you're a Trump voter masquerading as a Sanders supporter is correct.

And oh my god, go back in the archives. We have done the "why I am voting for Hillary and you should, too" to death.

And it's offensive to me for someone to assume that anyone who objects to Hillary, and/or criticizes her in any way, is automatically a Trump supporter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL sure...you sound like all those conservatives talking about Obama. You auctually have to get people to vote for your canidate. I am beginning to think Trump has a good chance because Hillary and company have not made a case to vote for Hillary. You know the under 35 vote is almost split even between Hillary, the 3rd party and Trump? Its Hillary's job to get those votes. She is failing because there is little difference between her and trump. Look at the unfavorable number one is at 62%, the other has 60%. When you talk about how bad the other person is all the time, you are not making a case for yourself.

I sound like I'm talking about Obama how, exactly?

Great, the under 35 vote is seems completely ignorant. What does that have to do with you, who I presume are around 45? Hillary's failing because of misogyny, the press isn't doing their job, and uneducated voters like you. If you think that there is little difference between Hillary and Donald, there is not enough intelligence in the world to straighten out that crooked ass worldview.

Enjoy your last little protest vote. Stein seems like.... not a great candidate, but you don't seem to care.

Back to misogyny - LOL!

Sorry that does not work. I would not vote for a man with Hillary's appalling record in terms of her honesty and poor judgement.

But you would rather directly or indirectly vote for a man who is the single biggest LIAR in the history of American politics according to fact checkers. You would rather vote for the man who had the judgment to fail business after business including Trump Uni, Trump real estate, Trump casinos, Trump airline, Trump steaks etc. Some one who trolls like a teenager on twitter(and you may not even like if your teenager does that).

Trump does not deserve my vote ........ but neither does Hillary.

False equivalence. One of them has relevant experience, one does not. One acts like a normal person in public, the other is a national embarrassment. One of them has the endorsement of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, the other has endorsements from the opposite party.

np
BOTH of them are national embarrassments. One became a candidate with the unscrupulous aid of her party as a virtual fait accompli (and even then had a hell of a struggle to grab the brass ring) and the other from a dysfunctional party with way too many selfish egotist scrumming for the ball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don't want to get to know her, because that might challenge their deep misogyny.

Its just boggles my mind that many do not want to know Clinton, neither they want to truly understand Trump's despicable past, yet will claim Trump will save the world from the satanic Hillary.

Being critical of her, or not liking her, does NOT mean you like or support Trump.

You have two choices. If you don't vote Clinton, you are supporting Trump. Actions speak louder than words.

pp here.

No, it isn't support of Trump.

And yet that is the effect a third party vote will have, no matter how much you like to think your meaningless little protest will occur in a vacuum. I don't know if you're a man or white or how well off you are, but the fact is that if Trump wins, people who did not vote for Hillary are going to have a lot worse than the Bush years ever could have been on their conscience. That's not "bullying," sensitive sally, that's a fact. What kind of climate work would we have done under Gore vs Bush? How much less gerrymandering might have occurred? I actually doubt 9/11 would have unfolded as it did, not to mention the bizarro reaction of attacking two unrelated nations. But you do you, I guess. Go Stein.

pp again.

You sure do think highly of yourself. Declaring a vote as meaningless because a candidate can't win. Many men and women have fought, and some have died, to protect that right but you want me to sell it based on your view. And why are you so concerned that if I don't vote for her and select another candidate it insures a victory for Trump?

Well, here's the deal. So long as the electoral college is set up the way it is there are a lot of votes that will have no impact on the outcome. Should we get that changed so that each candidate receives the percentage of delegates based on their vote total in EVERY state then more people are likely to vote. After all, they vote will be counted and not negated by the majority takes it all.

And FYI, you are talking to different people. I did not declare my vote for Stein.

Keep dreaming, Starfish. I have to go dump your vote from my son's training potty into the toilet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL sure...you sound like all those conservatives talking about Obama. You auctually have to get people to vote for your canidate. I am beginning to think Trump has a good chance because Hillary and company have not made a case to vote for Hillary. You know the under 35 vote is almost split even between Hillary, the 3rd party and Trump? Its Hillary's job to get those votes. She is failing because there is little difference between her and trump. Look at the unfavorable number one is at 62%, the other has 60%. When you talk about how bad the other person is all the time, you are not making a case for yourself.

I sound like I'm talking about Obama how, exactly?

Great, the under 35 vote is seems completely ignorant. What does that have to do with you, who I presume are around 45? Hillary's failing because of misogyny, the press isn't doing their job, and uneducated voters like you. If you think that there is little difference between Hillary and Donald, there is not enough intelligence in the world to straighten out that crooked ass worldview.

Enjoy your last little protest vote. Stein seems like.... not a great candidate, but you don't seem to care.

Back to misogyny - LOL!

Sorry that does not work. I would not vote for a man with Hillary's appalling record in terms of her honesty and poor judgement.

But you would rather directly or indirectly vote for a man who is the single biggest LIAR in the history of American politics according to fact checkers. You would rather vote for the man who had the judgment to fail business after business including Trump Uni, Trump real estate, Trump casinos, Trump airline, Trump steaks etc. Some one who trolls like a teenager on twitter(and you may not even like if your teenager does that).

Trump does not deserve my vote ........ but neither does Hillary.

False equivalence. One of them has relevant experience, one does not. One acts like a normal person in public, the other is a national embarrassment. One of them has the endorsement of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, the other has endorsements from the opposite party.

np
BOTH of them are national embarrassments. One became a candidate with the unscrupulous aid of her party as a virtual fait accompli (and even then had a hell of a struggle to grab the brass ring) and the other from a dysfunctional party with way too many selfish egotist scrumming for the ball.

No, Clinton played the game by the rules. She's an insider who played a good insider's game. And Sanders wasn't even a Democrat until the day he started to run, and left the party the day after he conceded. Do you really think the DNC would treat an actual Democrat the same as a temporary one?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL sure...you sound like all those conservatives talking about Obama. You auctually have to get people to vote for your canidate. I am beginning to think Trump has a good chance because Hillary and company have not made a case to vote for Hillary. You know the under 35 vote is almost split even between Hillary, the 3rd party and Trump? Its Hillary's job to get those votes. She is failing because there is little difference between her and trump. Look at the unfavorable number one is at 62%, the other has 60%. When you talk about how bad the other person is all the time, you are not making a case for yourself.

I sound like I'm talking about Obama how, exactly?

Great, the under 35 vote is seems completely ignorant. What does that have to do with you, who I presume are around 45? Hillary's failing because of misogyny, the press isn't doing their job, and uneducated voters like you. If you think that there is little difference between Hillary and Donald, there is not enough intelligence in the world to straighten out that crooked ass worldview.

Enjoy your last little protest vote. Stein seems like.... not a great candidate, but you don't seem to care.

Back to misogyny - LOL!

Sorry that does not work. I would not vote for a man with Hillary's appalling record in terms of her honesty and poor judgement.

But you would rather directly or indirectly vote for a man who is the single biggest LIAR in the history of American politics according to fact checkers. You would rather vote for the man who had the judgment to fail business after business including Trump Uni, Trump real estate, Trump casinos, Trump airline, Trump steaks etc. Some one who trolls like a teenager on twitter(and you may not even like if your teenager does that).

Trump does not deserve my vote ........ but neither does Hillary.

False equivalence. One of them has relevant experience, one does not. One acts like a normal person in public, the other is a national embarrassment. One of them has the endorsement of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, the other has endorsements from the opposite party.

np
BOTH of them are national embarrassments. One became a candidate with the unscrupulous aid of her party as a virtual fait accompli (and even then had a hell of a struggle to grab the brass ring) and the other from a dysfunctional party with way too many selfish egotist scrumming for the ball.

No, Clinton played the game by the rules. She's an insider who played a good insider's game. And Sanders wasn't even a Democrat until the day he started to run, and left the party the day after he conceded. Do you really think the DNC would treat an actual Democrat the same as a temporary one?

Not the pp, but the DNC’s aid came LONG before Bernie got involved. Why did no other viable Dems run?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is fun to watch these posters (likely from Correct the Record) work so hard to try to convince some of us not to “throw away” our vote.
You might want to seek a real job. Your position at CTR will disappear in a couple of months.

Some of you keep saying this. It's really offensive that you think that anyone who likes Hillary must necessarily be paid. It makes me believe that the PP who thinks you're a Trump voter masquerading as a Sanders supporter is correct.

And oh my god, go back in the archives. We have done the "why I am voting for Hillary and you should, too" to death.

And it's offensive to me for someone to assume that anyone who objects to Hillary, and/or criticizes her in any way, is automatically a Trump supporter.

Nobody says you can't criticize Clinton, but the false equivalence is riduculous. Trump lies about everything all the time, he changes his positions faster than the weather, but Clinton is "dishonest" because she changed her position from what she thought 20 years ago. Clinton gets criticized for supporting the war on Iraq, Trump also supported the war, but nobody calls him on that lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL sure...you sound like all those conservatives talking about Obama. You auctually have to get people to vote for your canidate. I am beginning to think Trump has a good chance because Hillary and company have not made a case to vote for Hillary. You know the under 35 vote is almost split even between Hillary, the 3rd party and Trump? Its Hillary's job to get those votes. She is failing because there is little difference between her and trump. Look at the unfavorable number one is at 62%, the other has 60%. When you talk about how bad the other person is all the time, you are not making a case for yourself.

I sound like I'm talking about Obama how, exactly?

Great, the under 35 vote is seems completely ignorant. What does that have to do with you, who I presume are around 45? Hillary's failing because of misogyny, the press isn't doing their job, and uneducated voters like you. If you think that there is little difference between Hillary and Donald, there is not enough intelligence in the world to straighten out that crooked ass worldview.

Enjoy your last little protest vote. Stein seems like.... not a great candidate, but you don't seem to care.

Back to misogyny - LOL!

Sorry that does not work. I would not vote for a man with Hillary's appalling record in terms of her honesty and poor judgement.

But you would rather directly or indirectly vote for a man who is the single biggest LIAR in the history of American politics according to fact checkers. You would rather vote for the man who had the judgment to fail business after business including Trump Uni, Trump real estate, Trump casinos, Trump airline, Trump steaks etc. Some one who trolls like a teenager on twitter(and you may not even like if your teenager does that).

Trump does not deserve my vote ........ but neither does Hillary.

False equivalence. One of them has relevant experience, one does not. One acts like a normal person in public, the other is a national embarrassment. One of them has the endorsement of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, the other has endorsements from the opposite party.

np
BOTH of them are national embarrassments. One became a candidate with the unscrupulous aid of her party as a virtual fait accompli (and even then had a hell of a struggle to grab the brass ring) and the other from a dysfunctional party with way too many selfish egotist scrumming for the ball.

No, Clinton played the game by the rules. She's an insider who played a good insider's game. And Sanders wasn't even a Democrat until the day he started to run, and left the party the day after he conceded. Do you really think the DNC would treat an actual Democrat the same as a temporary one?

Not the pp, but the DNC’s aid came LONG before Bernie got involved. Why did no other viable Dems run?

Clinton did clear the field before her, but I think mostly she just scared them off. In 2008, she did the same thing, but only Obama was brave enough to challenge her. If all the other Democrats weren't so chickenshit this time around, she would have lost to a better candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is fun to watch these posters (likely from Correct the Record) work so hard to try to convince some of us not to “throw away” our vote.
You might want to seek a real job. Your position at CTR will disappear in a couple of months.

Some of you keep saying this. It's really offensive that you think that anyone who likes Hillary must necessarily be paid. It makes me believe that the PP who thinks you're a Trump voter masquerading as a Sanders supporter is correct.

And oh my god, go back in the archives. We have done the "why I am voting for Hillary and you should, too" to death.

And it's offensive to me for someone to assume that anyone who objects to Hillary, and/or criticizes her in any way, is automatically a Trump supporter.

Nobody says you can't criticize Clinton, but the false equivalence is riduculous. Trump lies about everything all the time, he changes his positions faster than the weather, but Clinton is "dishonest" because she changed her position from what she thought 20 years ago. Clinton gets criticized for supporting the war on Iraq, Trump also supported the war, but nobody calls him on that lie.

Your argument fails because you are introducing things that are not in this discourse and you are assuming a hell of a lot as if it applies.

And this false equivalence is a cheap, and usually used by partisan Democrats here, cliche. If you want to base your vote on my candidate isn't as bad as the other, then that's your right.

So, get to the podium and debate and stop this comparison and false equivalence shit. If you can't do that then sit down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don't want to get to know her, because that might challenge their deep misogyny.

Its just boggles my mind that many do not want to know Clinton, neither they want to truly understand Trump's despicable past, yet will claim Trump will save the world from the satanic Hillary.

I’ve been around long enough and paid attention closely enough to know that she is corrupt as hell, divisive as can be, and lacks the judgment to serve as president.

Well stated. +1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don't want to get to know her, because that might challenge their deep misogyny.

Its just boggles my mind that many do not want to know Clinton, neither they want to truly understand Trump's despicable past, yet will claim Trump will save the world from the satanic Hillary.

I’ve been around long enough and paid attention closely enough to know that she is corrupt as hell, divisive as can be, and lacks the judgment to serve as president.

Well stated. +1

Different poster. But you haven't been long enough to understand that Trump has run a corrupt organization and is so incompetent that he has bankrupted so many of his businesses(Trump Uni, Trump realty, Trump airline, Trump casino etc). Trump has such a great judgement that he tweets like a 17 year old rotten teen. And he SELF FUNDS his campaign from money given by his conned supporters who find it their duty to give their lil money to their billionaire master.

It is very difficult for a party to win the third time and Hillary is not a good candidate. So it was the best time to bring on Kasich or Jeb or Rubio to win the election easily. But the party nominates Trump. Moderate Kasich voters like my extended family will not support a vulgarian like Trump.