A list actors

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kate Winslet, Angelina Jolie, Denzel, Keanu.


Jolie no longer. Her abuse to Pitt has ruined her reputation in HW. That’s why she’s now producing Broadway play. They won’t like her there much longer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:About 15 years ago, someone in the industry (business side) told me that women are never on the A list. Meaning they can never carry a film on their own. I hope this wasn't and isn't true, but I never forgot hearing it.

That’s ridiculous. Jennifer Lawrence carried the entire Hunger Games franchise single handedly.


Because it was a good story. Has she carried any movie since?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:About 15 years ago, someone in the industry (business side) told me that women are never on the A list. Meaning they can never carry a film on their own. I hope this wasn't and isn't true, but I never forgot hearing it.


Angelina Jolie in the Tomb Raider movies?


Another good story and she had some draw back then but her personal life and her vindictiveness has ruined her career.
Anonymous
Tom Holland
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kate Winslet, Angelina Jolie, Denzel, Keanu.


Jolie no longer. Her abuse to Pitt has ruined her reputation in HW. That’s why she’s now producing Broadway play. They won’t like her there much longer.


lol what? She's still 1000% an A lister. She's only producing the play because of daughter and I am pretty sure it's up for multiple Tony's.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't think Oscars are a good measure. Frances McDormand has four Oscars, and I wouldn't consider her A List. And I love Frances McDormand.


Agreed. Alicia Vikander has an Oscar but I wouldn't call her an a lister.
Anonymous
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/movie-stars-draw-audiences-theaters-173850508.html

This list. Awhile back this was one of the surveys that was being passed around studios. The question was to name up to five actors that would make them most interested in seeing a movie in a theater. Top 3 actors were Tom Cruise, The Rock, and Tom Hanks and top 3 actress were Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock, and Angelina Jolie. I think that's fair. Puck did a great article about this. A lot of these older actors have the star power and visibility outside of movies that draw people in.

Zendaya is an a lister for her generation but she's not quite there yet. I have no doubt she will be though!
Anonymous
I think the difference is that of current a listers were a listers 25-30 years ago. The next generation just doesn’t have as many traditional a listers. I agree, zendaya and chalomet are the closest things they’ve got. Tom holland and Jacob elordi are also big in gen Z. But in the 90s, you basically had the same dozens of name you have today (which have already been listed) and there were many “young” a-listers. Talking people like hanks, cruise, Roberts, Pitt, Anniston, etc. it’s interesting just how few “young” a listers there are today.
Anonymous
Austin Butler. A rising start - on his way to A
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not including the Senior Circuit (e.g. Pacino, Streep, Deniro, etc.)…

Men:
Pitt
Cruise
Cooper
DiCaprio
Will Smith (?)

Women:
Roberts
Kidman
Charlize

The top of the food chain. The legends. Who else should be in this group?



Reese Witherspoon.
Tobey McGuire.
Emma stone.
Andrew Garfield.
Brie Larson.
Robert Downey Jr.
Gwyneth Paltrow
Ben affleck
Matt Damon
Jennifer garner
Russel Crowe
Chris pine
Margot Robbie
Cate Blanchett


Many others. Once you’re A-list, you kind of stay that way.


How pathetic has the movie industry gotten if even one person thinks that Garfield & McGuire are A list MOVIE STARS? Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, Cary Grant, Paul Newman, & Gregory Peck must be laughing their butts off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:About 15 years ago, someone in the industry (business side) told me that women are never on the A list. Meaning they can never carry a film on their own. I hope this wasn't and isn't true, but I never forgot hearing it.

That’s ridiculous. Jennifer Lawrence carried the entire Hunger Games franchise single handedly.


Because it was a good story. Has she carried any movie since?


Academy award winner
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:About 15 years ago, someone in the industry (business side) told me that women are never on the A list. Meaning they can never carry a film on their own. I hope this wasn't and isn't true, but I never forgot hearing it.

That’s ridiculous. Jennifer Lawrence carried the entire Hunger Games franchise single handedly.


Because it was a good story. Has she carried any movie since?


No Hard Feelings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not including the Senior Circuit (e.g. Pacino, Streep, Deniro, etc.)…

Men:
Pitt
Cruise
Cooper
DiCaprio
Will Smith (?)

Women:
Roberts
Kidman
Charlize

The top of the food chain. The legends. Who else should be in this group?



Reese Witherspoon.
Tobey McGuire.
Emma stone.
Andrew Garfield.
Brie Larson.
Robert Downey Jr.
Gwyneth Paltrow
Ben affleck
Matt Damon
Jennifer garner
Russel Crowe
Chris pine
Margot Robbie
Cate Blanchett


Many others. Once you’re A-list, you kind of stay that way.



Some others:
Joaquin Phoenix
Colin Firth
Natalie Portman
Mila Kunis
Michelle Williams
Anne Hathaway
George Clooney
Steve Martin
Jennifer Aniston
Will Ferrell
Adam Sandler
Jason Bateman
Steven Spielberg (not an actor obviously)
Keanu Reeves
Ryan Gosling


I was looking for Michelle Williams here because I instantly thought of her but can never remember her name (and I got her mixed up with Carey Mulligan).
In short, can't remember their names, wouldn't recognize them on the street, but they are in everything and always ARE their character. Not themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think Oscars are a good measure. Frances McDormand has four Oscars, and I wouldn't consider her A List. And I love Frances McDormand.


Agreed. Alicia Vikander has an Oscar but I wouldn't call her an a lister.


Frances McDormand is definitely an A lister.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:About 15 years ago, someone in the industry (business side) told me that women are never on the A list. Meaning they can never carry a film on their own. I hope this wasn't and isn't true, but I never forgot hearing it.


It is much harder for women to have the same box office draw as men because men still resist seeing movies that are mostly about women. Women will go see Oppenheimer, men don't want to see Barbie. It limits how much power women leads can have.

That's why you see people like Reese Witherspoon and Nicole Kidman turning to streaming and TV. They can use their star power to get projects green lit there, produce so they make more money off of it, and then use that money to continue making more projects. Many of them are quite open about it in interviews. If you've been working for 20 years, have Oscars and huge hits to your name, and you STILL can't make a project happen just because you want to make the movie, what is the point? And then on top of it most film roles for women still skew younger with fewer options for older women. There are more options for meaty, interesting roles on TV.

The real question is whether it's possible for someone to be A list just doing TV and streaming. I would argue yes but don't know enough about the economics to say that studios view it this way. What does it mean to have a hit show on streaming? What is the value of some of these shows in terms of bottom line? I truly have no idea and I think many of the people working at these companies, and the actors and the producers and the writers, also don't know. And that makes it very complicated in a way it never was before.


Yes - Jennifer Aniston.

She's done movies but none are that great.


Right but what people are not getting is that the A-list is about economic power in the industry, not just being famous or getting high profile roles.its about being able to ensure a project will make money simply by attaching their name to it.

I don't how studios account for revenue from streaming projects like the Morning Show. Certainly it has value, but what is it, exactly? Also Aniston and Witherspoon co-produce and co-star -- assuming the streaming numbers are very good for the show AND that Apple+ can quantify that popularity as leading to revenue in subscriptions, to what degree is it attributed to Aniston alone?

This is why I don't know whether TV alone can make you A-list, especially as most high profile projects shift to streaming. Even when Aniston was on Friends, and you could more directly link the show to revenue because the ratings were directly linked to advertising rates during episodes, it is different that Aniston being cast in a room com where she is the star, and then that movie making money.
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