New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

[Anonymous]

Why can't they call it Justice Marshall? Lake Braddock is a two word name, as are South County, South Lakes, West Potomac, West Springfield, and even Peace Valley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't they call it Justice Marshall? Lake Braddock is a two word name, as are South County, South Lakes, West Potomac, West Springfield, and even Peace Valley.

Because there is already a Marshall High. Think about it. Great confusion. "Which Marshall High do you attend?" And, that is the least problem with the confusion.

What do we call W.T.Woodson High?
James Madison High?
Thomas Edison High?
J.W.Robinson Secondary?

Leave it at Stuart. And, think about the ramifications. If they change it, what is next? Lee? and all the other schools in the county with Confederate connections. Is this really the best use of our funds. One of our SB members is already on record as wanting to change the names of two other high schools. This could have unintended consequences that far exceed the value of changing the name.

Calling it Stuart is a name change. It no longer will honor Jeb Stuart and that should satisfy all but the ones who were determined to name it for someone else. It could also be done with far less expense and less confusion. Plus, it is what the community supports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of ironic that there was an agenda for Justice Thurgood Marshall from the get go.... and in the end, the promoters had to concede that there can't be 2 "Marshall HS"s in FCPS. So, they are going with just "Justice" --- which doesn't serve their original plan.

I thought the name should be changed b/c of the confederate connection. But the promoters didn't have enough sense to recognize that Marshall was already taken. So, that limited the momentum for other --better-- name options. Now they are just hovering over the ashes of what they originally wanted. And the school community is losing out on getting a good name that they can be happy with for a long time. "Justice HS" almost seems like a court-ordered facility (like a detention center or alternative HS). It doesn't fit with the rest of the FCPS school names.

Garbage in = garbage out.

There is a Liberty MS in Clifton. But Justice HS does sound like an alternative high school, and some schools with that name in other states are adjuncts to youth detention facilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't they call it Justice Marshall? Lake Braddock is a two word name, as are South County, South Lakes, West Potomac, West Springfield, and even Peace Valley.

Because there is already a Marshall High. Think about it. Great confusion. "Which Marshall High do you attend?" And, that is the least problem with the confusion.

What do we call W.T.Woodson High?
James Madison High?
Thomas Edison High?
J.W.Robinson Secondary?

Leave it at Stuart. And, think about the ramifications. If they change it, what is next? Lee? and all the other schools in the county with Confederate connections. Is this really the best use of our funds. One of our SB members is already on record as wanting to change the names of two other high schools. This could have unintended consequences that far exceed the value of changing the name.

Calling it Stuart is a name change. It no longer will honor Jeb Stuart and that should satisfy all but the ones who were determined to name it for someone else. It could also be done with far less expense and less confusion. Plus, it is what the community supports.

Most of the votes in the last community survey were for something other than "Stuart." At this point, the name will only stay Stuart if they can't decide on something else.

[Anonymous]

Most of the votes in the last community survey were for something other than "Stuart." At this point, the name will only stay Stuart if they can't decide on something else.

That's not how counting votes works. And, you just destroyed your own argument: most of the votes were for something other than "Justice".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't they call it Justice Marshall? Lake Braddock is a two word name, as are South County, South Lakes, West Potomac, West Springfield, and even Peace Valley.

Because there is already a Marshall High. Think about it. Great confusion. "Which Marshall High do you attend?" And, that is the least problem with the confusion.

What do we call W.T.Woodson High?
James Madison High?
Thomas Edison High?
J.W.Robinson Secondary?

Leave it at Stuart. And, think about the ramifications. If they change it, what is next? Lee? and all the other schools in the county with Confederate connections. Is this really the best use of our funds. One of our SB members is already on record as wanting to change the names of two other high schools. This could have unintended consequences that far exceed the value of changing the name.

Calling it Stuart is a name change. It no longer will honor Jeb Stuart and that should satisfy all but the ones who were determined to name it for someone else. It could also be done with far less expense and less confusion. Plus, it is what the community supports.

I see. They can't call it Justice Marshall because you don't like it. Thanks for the explanation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Most of the votes in the last community survey were for something other than "Stuart." At this point, the name will only stay Stuart if they can't decide on something else.

That's not how counting votes works. And, you just destroyed your own argument: most of the votes were for something other than "Justice".

This was never held out as an exercise where the top vote recipient (the status quo) out of 73 names was the presumptive new name. Sorry.

And, insofar as "Justice" is now supposed to pick up Marshall, Johns, and Mendez, there were certainly more votes for those three combined than for Stuart. Sorry again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Most of the votes in the last community survey were for something other than "Stuart." At this point, the name will only stay Stuart if they can't decide on something else.

That's not how counting votes works. And, you just destroyed your own argument: most of the votes were for something other than "Justice".

This was never held out as an exercise where the top vote recipient (the status quo) out of 73 names was the presumptive new name. Sorry.

And, insofar as "Justice" is now supposed to pick up Marshall, Johns, and Mendez, there were certainly more votes for those three combined than for Stuart. Sorry again.

Well, I just googled "Justice" High. If you want the school to share the name with a Juvie high, then you really don't get it. I'd be upset with that name if I were a student.

[Anonymous]

And, insofar as "Justice" is now supposed to pick up Marshall, Johns, and Mendez, there were certainly more votes for those three combined than for Stuart. Sorry again.

Somehow, I don't think that those voting for Mendez or Johns were voting for "Justice".
Nice try, though.

That's like saying those who chose "Robinson" were choosing "Hero" High. Or, those voting for "Washington" would be voting for "President" High. Not the same.

[Anonymous]

Just looked at the SB motions for renaming. Schultz has her name on three motions--there is no name on the motion for "Justice". Who is the sponsor of "Justice"? Is it Evans? Does she ever think about unintended consequences or do research?

From the beginning, she thought Thurgood Marshall was a good name--even though there is already a Marshall. (If they name it that, it will really tick off George C. Marshall community.) When I first heard it, that was the first thought I had. There is already a Marshall.

Did she ever think of a different way to present this whole process? Did she not realize the divisiveness that this would bring?

And, now, "Justice". Did no one even google "Justice High"? Did no one think of the connotation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just looked at the SB motions for renaming. Schultz has her name on three motions--there is no name on the motion for "Justice". Who is the sponsor of "Justice"? Is it Evans? Does she ever think about unintended consequences or do research?

From the beginning, she thought Thurgood Marshall was a good name--even though there is already a Marshall. (If they name it that, it will really tick off George C. Marshall community.) When I first heard it, that was the first thought I had. There is already a Marshall.

Did she ever think of a different way to present this whole process? Did she not realize the divisiveness that this would bring?

And, now, "Justice". Did no one even google "Justice High"? Did no one think of the connotation?

If you read the newspaper articles, it is obviously Evans' resolution.

I don't think she thought this through carefully. Justice HS sounds like a program for kids in juvenile detention. It must be a last-ditch effort to placate the NAACP after it became clear she couldn't get enough votes for Marshall or Johns.

It's also hard to come up with any names for the teams besides "Warriors," which is already the Wakefield High mascot, or "Fighters," which works as a metaphor but probably not as the mascot name for a school that has a large number of suspensions.

[Anonymous]

If only they would learn from history and name it after something neutral that can come to have meaning as the community defines itself over time.

#PeaceValley

Or simply Valley HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If only they would learn from history and name it after something neutral that can come to have meaning as the community defines itself over time.

#PeaceValley

Or simply Valley HS.

^ Says the person who is happy leaving all the many other schools named after white men in place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If only they would learn from history and name it after something neutral that can come to have meaning as the community defines itself over time.

#PeaceValley

Or simply Valley HS.

^ Says the person who is happy leaving all the many other schools named after white men in place.

DP poster here. Is that what this is about? Sad.

Here's the name then: Social Justice High

That explains the whole process.

Do you really think it is that important to name a high school after someone? What was the last high school in FCPS named for an individual?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If only they would learn from history and name it after something neutral that can come to have meaning as the community defines itself over time.

#PeaceValley

Or simply Valley HS.

^ Says the person who is happy leaving all the many other schools named after white men in place.

DP poster here. Is that what this is about? Sad.

Here's the name then: Social Justice High

That explains the whole process.

Do you really think it is that important to name a high school after someone? What was the last high school in FCPS named for an individual?

It's odd that you'd ridicule the idea of social justice.

But, again, if you don't like naming schools after people, let's rename all those so honored.