US Capitol Breached by Trump's lunatics

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's things like this that make people go hmmmm all the way to the Capitol. Never change, Chicago (2024 race):

"The ballots were "mostly" received back via dropbox on Election Day, but weren't included in initial counts of outstanding ballots, according to officials.

Questions have arisen during the counting process amid changing numbers of outstanding and included ballots. In a news release Saturday, a spokesperson for the CBOE explained that while adding up vote-by-mail ballots, he accidentally left out additional ballots that had been delivered by the U.S. Postal Service on Monday.

"I traded speed for accuracy in reporting out numbers this week as quickly as I could," spokesperson Max Bever said in a statement, in part. "I truly regret this error on my part and for the confusion that it has caused the voters of Chicago."

When numbers keep changing and counting goes on for days after an election, people tend to not trust the count. The R attorney general won but Bever stated they forgot about 10K ballots, which of course has been eating away rapidly at the R's lead. My guess is in the end, these forgotten votes will turn the election.

1. what is the source of this?

2. maybe Trump actually lost in 2016 if you are going to question mail in ballots because there have been mail in ballots for a very very long time. I mean.. here, you are saying that a R won in Chicago, and then you question the results. Every poll showed Trump losing 2016, so maybe he actually lost in 2016. Maybe he was never the legitimate POTUS to being with who had no authority to question the 2020 election. Hm..?

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

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Anonymous wrote:The first active duty officer is currently having his trial. A major in the Marine Corps, who totally turned his back on his oath of appointment:

I’m sorry to say I don’t understand the gist of what they’re saying about whether or not Pence left the building.

I'm not positive, but from what I can tell, what the accused major did was only a crime if Pence was in the building. If Pence had left the capitol grounds, then what the major did was not a crime. It's like going to someone's house to attempt to kill them. If they were not in the house when you got there, it wasn't attempted murder (of course the B&E would be a different charge).

So, the prosecution is trying to assert that Pence was cordoned off in the loading dock of the Capitol surrounded by his SS detail. Thus, the attempt to injure him was an attempt to subvert the election process and thus, a federal felony.

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Anonymous wrote:The first active duty officer is currently having his trial. A major in the Marine Corps, who totally turned his back on his oath of appointment:

I’m sorry to say I don’t understand the gist of what they’re saying about whether or not Pence left the building.

I'm not positive, but from what I can tell, what the accused major did was only a crime if Pence was in the building. If Pence had left the capitol grounds, then what the major did was not a crime. It's like going to someone's house to attempt to kill them. If they were not in the house when you got there, it wasn't attempted murder (of course the B&E would be a different charge).

So, the prosecution is trying to assert that Pence was cordoned off in the loading dock of the Capitol surrounded by his SS detail. Thus, the attempt to injure him was an attempt to subvert the election process and thus, a federal felony.

Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The first active duty officer is currently having his trial. A major in the Marine Corps, who totally turned his back on his oath of appointment:

I’m sorry to say I don’t understand the gist of what they’re saying about whether or not Pence left the building.

I'm not positive, but from what I can tell, what the accused major did was only a crime if Pence was in the building. If Pence had left the capitol grounds, then what the major did was not a crime. It's like going to someone's house to attempt to kill them. If they were not in the house when you got there, it wasn't attempted murder (of course the B&E would be a different charge).

So, the prosecution is trying to assert that Pence was cordoned off in the loading dock of the Capitol surrounded by his SS detail. Thus, the attempt to injure him was an attempt to subvert the election process and thus, a federal felony.

Yes, that is attempted murder. It's unsuccessful but you tried. If you succeeded, then it would be murder, if you try and don't succeed (for whatever reason), then it is attempted murder.

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

Agree. The only think sketch about this is that a mob of individuals invaded the Capitol and attempted to end the certification of the presidential election. IDK about the PP who claimed this seemed "sketch," but I visited the Capitol a number of times - many many many - over the 20 years I lived and worked in DC. The rules about what one can bring into the Capitol, even onto the grounds, are pretty specific as well as the use of objects already on the grounds. This is largely, though not exclusively, informed by enslaver Rep Preston Brooks (SC) nearly beating abolitionist Sen Charles Sumner (MA) to death with a cane (1850s?). Brandishing the flag poles by insurrectionists was not due to being caught up in the "patriotic" moment but a lethal threat to their opponents.

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

Agree. The only think sketch about this is that a mob of individuals invaded the Capitol and attempted to end the certification of the presidential election. IDK about the PP who claimed this seemed "sketch," but I visited the Capitol a number of times - many many many - over the 20 years I lived and worked in DC. The rules about what one can bring into the Capitol, even onto the grounds, are pretty specific as well as the use of objects already on the grounds. This is largely, though not exclusively, informed by enslaver Rep Preston Brooks (SC) nearly beating abolitionist Sen Charles Sumner (MA) to death with a cane (1850s?). Brandishing the flag poles by insurrectionists was not due to being caught up in the "patriotic" moment but a lethal threat to their opponents.

So many tourists bay for blood while looking for Congress and smearing poop on the walls.

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

Agree. The only think sketch about this is that a mob of individuals invaded the Capitol and attempted to end the certification of the presidential election. IDK about the PP who claimed this seemed "sketch," but I visited the Capitol a number of times - many many many - over the 20 years I lived and worked in DC. The rules about what one can bring into the Capitol, even onto the grounds, are pretty specific as well as the use of objects already on the grounds. This is largely, though not exclusively, informed by enslaver Rep Preston Brooks (SC) nearly beating abolitionist Sen Charles Sumner (MA) to death with a cane (1850s?). Brandishing the flag poles by insurrectionists was not due to being caught up in the "patriotic" moment but a lethal threat to their opponents.

So many tourists bay for blood while looking for Congress and smearing poop on the walls.

Right????

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

Agree. The only think sketch about this is that a mob of individuals invaded the Capitol and attempted to end the certification of the presidential election. IDK about the PP who claimed this seemed "sketch," but I visited the Capitol a number of times - many many many - over the 20 years I lived and worked in DC. The rules about what one can bring into the Capitol, even onto the grounds, are pretty specific as well as the use of objects already on the grounds. This is largely, though not exclusively, informed by enslaver Rep Preston Brooks (SC) nearly beating abolitionist Sen Charles Sumner (MA) to death with a cane (1850s?). Brandishing the flag poles by insurrectionists was not due to being caught up in the "patriotic" moment but a lethal threat to their opponents.

So many tourists bay for blood while looking for Congress and smearing poop on the walls.

Tourists cannot ever just walk into the Capitol and stroll around unidentified and unescorted. You have to give them your ID, get a visitor tag, and be escorted in a group or by a Congressional staffer, and can only go into certain areas of the Capitol. You can’t break doors or windows or force your way into the House floor or Senate floor or Speakers Office. You can’t attack the Capitol Police or vandalize the building. No one who entered the building on Jan. 6 was a tourist.

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

PP here. I was mistaken. I was thinking of these overcharges:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/03/01/appeal-obstruction-trump-january-sixth/

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

Agree. The only think sketch about this is that a mob of individuals invaded the Capitol and attempted to end the certification of the presidential election. IDK about the PP who claimed this seemed "sketch," but I visited the Capitol a number of times - many many many - over the 20 years I lived and worked in DC. The rules about what one can bring into the Capitol, even onto the grounds, are pretty specific as well as the use of objects already on the grounds. This is largely, though not exclusively, informed by enslaver Rep Preston Brooks (SC) nearly beating abolitionist Sen Charles Sumner (MA) to death with a cane (1850s?). Brandishing the flag poles by insurrectionists was not due to being caught up in the "patriotic" moment but a lethal threat to their opponents.

So many tourists bay for blood while looking for Congress and smearing poop on the walls.

Tourists cannot ever just walk into the Capitol and stroll around unidentified and unescorted. You have to give them your ID, get a visitor tag, and be escorted in a group or by a Congressional staffer, and can only go into certain areas of the Capitol. You can’t break doors or windows or force your way into the House floor or Senate floor or Speakers Office. You can’t attack the Capitol Police or vandalize the building. No one who entered the building on Jan. 6 was a tourist.

Exactly. They were despicable insurrectionists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

Agree. The only think sketch about this is that a mob of individuals invaded the Capitol and attempted to end the certification of the presidential election. IDK about the PP who claimed this seemed "sketch," but I visited the Capitol a number of times - many many many - over the 20 years I lived and worked in DC. The rules about what one can bring into the Capitol, even onto the grounds, are pretty specific as well as the use of objects already on the grounds. This is largely, though not exclusively, informed by enslaver Rep Preston Brooks (SC) nearly beating abolitionist Sen Charles Sumner (MA) to death with a cane (1850s?). Brandishing the flag poles by insurrectionists was not due to being caught up in the "patriotic" moment but a lethal threat to their opponents.

So many tourists bay for blood while looking for Congress and smearing poop on the walls.

Tourists cannot ever just walk into the Capitol and stroll around unidentified and unescorted. You have to give them your ID, get a visitor tag, and be escorted in a group or by a Congressional staffer, and can only go into certain areas of the Capitol. You can’t break doors or windows or force your way into the House floor or Senate floor or Speakers Office. You can’t attack the Capitol Police or vandalize the building. No one who entered the building on Jan. 6 was a tourist.

Or people who "just founds themselves" there.

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Anonymous wrote:‘Front of the pack pushing against police’: Off-duty Pa. officer charged at police during the Capitol riot, FBI says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/21/officer-joseph-fischer-charged-capitol-riots/

Fischer appealed his eventual conviction, challenging an obstruction statute, 18 USC 1512(c), used to prosecute hundreds of Jan 6 rioters as well as Trump. Oral arguments in SCOTUS today.

Yeah, this charge seems sketch. Stick to reality when charging and convicting, please.

What about it is “sketch”?

Agree. The only think sketch about this is that a mob of individuals invaded the Capitol and attempted to end the certification of the presidential election. IDK about the PP who claimed this seemed "sketch," but I visited the Capitol a number of times - many many many - over the 20 years I lived and worked in DC. The rules about what one can bring into the Capitol, even onto the grounds, are pretty specific as well as the use of objects already on the grounds. This is largely, though not exclusively, informed by enslaver Rep Preston Brooks (SC) nearly beating abolitionist Sen Charles Sumner (MA) to death with a cane (1850s?). Brandishing the flag poles by insurrectionists was not due to being caught up in the "patriotic" moment but a lethal threat to their opponents.

So many tourists bay for blood while looking for Congress and smearing poop on the walls.

Tourists cannot ever just walk into the Capitol and stroll around unidentified and unescorted. You have to give them your ID, get a visitor tag, and be escorted in a group or by a Congressional staffer, and can only go into certain areas of the Capitol. You can’t break doors or windows or force your way into the House floor or Senate floor or Speakers Office. You can’t attack the Capitol Police or vandalize the building. No one who entered the building on Jan. 6 was a tourist.

Or people who "just founds themselves" there.

Very hard to argue that they "just found themselves there" when they went to the rally on the Mall and were told to march up to the Capitol and show support for some Congressmen and show less support for other Congressmen. Clearly, they walked the 6 blocks or so from the rally point to the Capitol intentionally and not accidentally or incidentally.