TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News

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Anonymous wrote:If kids were getting in because of this program they also had a good chance of not belonging without a lot of extra work. Many kids get in with nothing but a good breakfast before the test.

I guess your kid did not have good breakfast that day. So sorry!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

Your smart kid is not struggling. Why do you care about other kids? No one ask you to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

1) The students mentioned that they saw questions that were exactly the same as the questions that were on the exam in their classes at Curie. That's not coming from a review book - it's coming from a student who memorized a question. And you don't have to have an eidetic memory to be able to recall those questions - to this day I still recall several of the ones that I've seen.

2) The difference between the Quant-Q and the other exams is that the Quant-Q is intended to be secured. None of those other exams tout that they are.

3) There is no sense in which the number of students entering from Alg1 are "being placed at the bottom of the TJ class" or trying to "catch up to students who are two years ahead of them". They're not taking additional math classes to close that gap, nor do they need to.

It's a win for them because, like every single TJ student that has ever existed, they are receiving a stronger educational product than they would at any other school available to them, both in terms of coursework and cohort.

It's a win for TJ because a huge chunk of those students are coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds, creating the sort of experiential diversity that will pay of in huge dividends for students who have never been around such students in the past.

And it's a win for Northern Virginia because there is now one fewer reason for parents to try to hyper-accelerate their children beyond what their ability would prescribe.

WELL SAID

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

1) The students mentioned that they saw questions that were exactly the same as the questions that were on the exam in their classes at Curie. That's not coming from a review book - it's coming from a student who memorized a question. And you don't have to have an eidetic memory to be able to recall those questions - to this day I still recall several of the ones that I've seen.

2) The difference between the Quant-Q and the other exams is that the Quant-Q is intended to be secured. None of those other exams tout that they are.

3) There is no sense in which the number of students entering from Alg1 are "being placed at the bottom of the TJ class" or trying to "catch up to students who are two years ahead of them". They're not taking additional math classes to close that gap, nor do they need to.

It's a win for them because, like every single TJ student that has ever existed, they are receiving a stronger educational product than they would at any other school available to them, both in terms of coursework and cohort.

It's a win for TJ because a huge chunk of those students are coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds, creating the sort of experiential diversity that will pay of in huge dividends for students who have never been around such students in the past.

And it's a win for Northern Virginia because there is now one fewer reason for parents to try to hyper-accelerate their children beyond what their ability would prescribe.

So no to testing and yes to diversity?

Why couldn't they revamp the test(s), because there were two other tests that no one ever mentions, but then also allow for experience factor points. Hypothetically a kid with a 90 average on tests but experience factors would show strong academic competency and diversity vs what appears to be random right now.

Among all groups, including URMs, there are simply smarter kids, that this process currently doesn't identify. They went with the most expedient solution to meet their social engineering "wins" vs what made sense but took hard work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

1) The students mentioned that they saw questions that were exactly the same as the questions that were on the exam in their classes at Curie. That's not coming from a review book - it's coming from a student who memorized a question. And you don't have to have an eidetic memory to be able to recall those questions - to this day I still recall several of the ones that I've seen.

2) The difference between the Quant-Q and the other exams is that the Quant-Q is intended to be secured. None of those other exams tout that they are.

3) There is no sense in which the number of students entering from Alg1 are "being placed at the bottom of the TJ class" or trying to "catch up to students who are two years ahead of them". They're not taking additional math classes to close that gap, nor do they need to.

It's a win for them because, like every single TJ student that has ever existed, they are receiving a stronger educational product than they would at any other school available to them, both in terms of coursework and cohort.

It's a win for TJ because a huge chunk of those students are coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds, creating the sort of experiential diversity that will pay of in huge dividends for students who have never been around such students in the past.

And it's a win for Northern Virginia because there is now one fewer reason for parents to try to hyper-accelerate their children beyond what their ability would prescribe.

WELL SAID

Why do you respond to your own post, unless of course the post is insincere?

[Anonymous]

Admission change is so good, then TJ dropped to 14th? What do you expect? Stay in top 1?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Admission change is so good, then TJ dropped to 14th? What do you expect? Stay in top 1?

The data used was for the class of 2022. Not the new admissions classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

1) The students mentioned that they saw questions that were exactly the same as the questions that were on the exam in their classes at Curie. That's not coming from a review book - it's coming from a student who memorized a question. And you don't have to have an eidetic memory to be able to recall those questions - to this day I still recall several of the ones that I've seen.

2) The difference between the Quant-Q and the other exams is that the Quant-Q is intended to be secured. None of those other exams tout that they are.

3) There is no sense in which the number of students entering from Alg1 are "being placed at the bottom of the TJ class" or trying to "catch up to students who are two years ahead of them". They're not taking additional math classes to close that gap, nor do they need to.

It's a win for them because, like every single TJ student that has ever existed, they are receiving a stronger educational product than they would at any other school available to them, both in terms of coursework and cohort.

It's a win for TJ because a huge chunk of those students are coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds, creating the sort of experiential diversity that will pay of in huge dividends for students who have never been around such students in the past.

And it's a win for Northern Virginia because there is now one fewer reason for parents to try to hyper-accelerate their children beyond what their ability would prescribe.

WELL SAID

And yet people were able to buy access to the test questions making it a completely useless metric.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Admission change is so good, then TJ dropped to 14th? What do you expect? Stay in top 1?

Nah, it was because of the cheating for selection that it dropped. These rankings are a few years behind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

1) The students mentioned that they saw questions that were exactly the same as the questions that were on the exam in their classes at Curie. That's not coming from a review book - it's coming from a student who memorized a question. And you don't have to have an eidetic memory to be able to recall those questions - to this day I still recall several of the ones that I've seen.

2) The difference between the Quant-Q and the other exams is that the Quant-Q is intended to be secured. None of those other exams tout that they are.

3) There is no sense in which the number of students entering from Alg1 are "being placed at the bottom of the TJ class" or trying to "catch up to students who are two years ahead of them". They're not taking additional math classes to close that gap, nor do they need to.

It's a win for them because, like every single TJ student that has ever existed, they are receiving a stronger educational product than they would at any other school available to them, both in terms of coursework and cohort.

It's a win for TJ because a huge chunk of those students are coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds, creating the sort of experiential diversity that will pay of in huge dividends for students who have never been around such students in the past.

And it's a win for Northern Virginia because there is now one fewer reason for parents to try to hyper-accelerate their children beyond what their ability would prescribe.

So no to testing and yes to diversity?

Why couldn't they revamp the test(s), because there were two other tests that no one ever mentions, but then also allow for experience factor points. Hypothetically a kid with a 90 average on tests but experience factors would show strong academic competency and diversity vs what appears to be random right now.

Among all groups, including URMs, there are simply smarter kids, that this process currently doesn't identify. They went with the most expedient solution to meet their social engineering "wins" vs what made sense but took hard work.

There plenty of tests they can consider for this which are measured in the form of grades. That's what school is all about. No point in making up some silly test that rich people can buy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Admission change is so good, then TJ dropped to 14th? What do you expect? Stay in top 1?

Of course, people want to celebrate it more next year and years after when TJ's ranking will be 30+ and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

1) The students mentioned that they saw questions that were exactly the same as the questions that were on the exam in their classes at Curie. That's not coming from a review book - it's coming from a student who memorized a question. And you don't have to have an eidetic memory to be able to recall those questions - to this day I still recall several of the ones that I've seen.

2) The difference between the Quant-Q and the other exams is that the Quant-Q is intended to be secured. None of those other exams tout that they are.

3) There is no sense in which the number of students entering from Alg1 are "being placed at the bottom of the TJ class" or trying to "catch up to students who are two years ahead of them". They're not taking additional math classes to close that gap, nor do they need to.

It's a win for them because, like every single TJ student that has ever existed, they are receiving a stronger educational product than they would at any other school available to them, both in terms of coursework and cohort.

It's a win for TJ because a huge chunk of those students are coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds, creating the sort of experiential diversity that will pay of in huge dividends for students who have never been around such students in the past.

And it's a win for Northern Virginia because there is now one fewer reason for parents to try to hyper-accelerate their children beyond what their ability would prescribe.

So no to testing and yes to diversity?

Why couldn't they revamp the test(s), because there were two other tests that no one ever mentions, but then also allow for experience factor points. Hypothetically a kid with a 90 average on tests but experience factors would show strong academic competency and diversity vs what appears to be random right now.

Among all groups, including URMs, there are simply smarter kids, that this process currently doesn't identify. They went with the most expedient solution to meet their social engineering "wins" vs what made sense but took hard work.

Good question and I don't know. They clearly want a less informed admissions process than a more informed one. They can always incorporate experience factors into test scores and teachers' recommendations.

At my kid's school, they left out a African American kid who has advanced math courses and STEM awards but took some white kids who are layback and don't even care of TJ. But, well we have a "holistic" admissions process now LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

1) The students mentioned that they saw questions that were exactly the same as the questions that were on the exam in their classes at Curie. That's not coming from a review book - it's coming from a student who memorized a question. And you don't have to have an eidetic memory to be able to recall those questions - to this day I still recall several of the ones that I've seen.

2) The difference between the Quant-Q and the other exams is that the Quant-Q is intended to be secured. None of those other exams tout that they are.

3) There is no sense in which the number of students entering from Alg1 are "being placed at the bottom of the TJ class" or trying to "catch up to students who are two years ahead of them". They're not taking additional math classes to close that gap, nor do they need to.

It's a win for them because, like every single TJ student that has ever existed, they are receiving a stronger educational product than they would at any other school available to them, both in terms of coursework and cohort.

It's a win for TJ because a huge chunk of those students are coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds, creating the sort of experiential diversity that will pay of in huge dividends for students who have never been around such students in the past.

And it's a win for Northern Virginia because there is now one fewer reason for parents to try to hyper-accelerate their children beyond what their ability would prescribe.

So no to testing and yes to diversity?

Why couldn't they revamp the test(s), because there were two other tests that no one ever mentions, but then also allow for experience factor points. Hypothetically a kid with a 90 average on tests but experience factors would show strong academic competency and diversity vs what appears to be random right now.

Among all groups, including URMs, there are simply smarter kids, that this process currently doesn't identify. They went with the most expedient solution to meet their social engineering "wins" vs what made sense but took hard work.

Good question and I don't know. They clearly want a less informed admissions process than a more informed one. They can always incorporate experience factors into test scores and teachers' recommendations.

At my kid's school, they left out an African American kid who has advanced math courses and STEM awards but took some white kids who are layback and don't even care of TJ. But, well we have a "holistic" admissions process now LOL

He had a 4.0? They do look at GPA.

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Seems like a flaw in the rankings if the admission criteria makes a school fall in the rankings. The caliber of the school should be based on how they educated the students they had, not how well they selected the incoming students.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ admissions is trying to pick better students in the last couple of years but there will always be ones that get through. Parents keep your cheating, low performing students at the base school. They will go to better colleges from there we promise.

The drop in stature just lags behind the changes which should improve TJ's standing just like it has greatly detoxified the schools environment.

Cure's ad showed over a third of entering class under the old process were their customers who also had access to their question bank. The old process was rewarding those who could afford to buy access. It was definitely not merit.

Thank you for the Curie mention. Your hallucination has given a lot of attention to Curie, but all year long classes are full, especially the advanced track. Others, please do not join Curie without doing your research, and complain how difficult the curriculum is. Most of Curie middle school students enter High School to begin Precalculus, and the remaining enroll in Algebra 2.

DP. People like me who post about the Curie situation do not care about whether or not it remains in business. We post only to highlight the reasons why standardized testing cannot and should not be used as a gatekeeper for access to exceptional educational opportunities like TJ.

The more you talk about Curie's success, the more you make our point for us. Go on, knock yourselves out. Make your millions off of families who feel like they have to consume your product in order to be considered "good parents" in your community. Continue to apparently limit your consumer base to only one ethnic demographic. We don't care.

We just don't want admissions processes to reward the people who pay large amounts of money to consume your product.

And guess what? We won.

Your entire reasoning is oddly irrational and your obsessive grudge against Curie appears crazy deep, yet quite intriguingly fascinating. Did you attend Curie yourself?

Quant-Q is a third-party test, widely available with numerous $20 prep books found all over the internet. Yet, you seem to believe that Curie couldn't have utilized any of those resources to compile their training material, but relied on this one eidetic kid to gather questions that are already out there? Even so, how is it different from the countless training institutes preparing students for exams like the SAT, LSAT, MCAT, COGAT, GRE, etc., where they are simply rehashing the same problem types found in $20 prep books like Barron's, Princeton Review, etc.?

Let's roll with your crazy reasoning, for a bit. While you may view the admissions change as a win in your head, but how can it be considered a win for the 160+ Algebra 1 students who are being placed at the bottom of the TJ class, tasked with struggling to catch upto the top-performing students who are two years ahead of them?

1) The students mentioned that they saw questions that were exactly the same as the questions that were on the exam in their classes at Curie. That's not coming from a review book - it's coming from a student who memorized a question. And you don't have to have an eidetic memory to be able to recall those questions - to this day I still recall several of the ones that I've seen.

2) The difference between the Quant-Q and the other exams is that the Quant-Q is intended to be secured. None of those other exams tout that they are.

3) There is no sense in which the number of students entering from Alg1 are "being placed at the bottom of the TJ class" or trying to "catch up to students who are two years ahead of them". They're not taking additional math classes to close that gap, nor do they need to.

It's a win for them because, like every single TJ student that has ever existed, they are receiving a stronger educational product than they would at any other school available to them, both in terms of coursework and cohort.

It's a win for TJ because a huge chunk of those students are coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds, creating the sort of experiential diversity that will pay of in huge dividends for students who have never been around such students in the past.

And it's a win for Northern Virginia because there is now one fewer reason for parents to try to hyper-accelerate their children beyond what their ability would prescribe.

So no to testing and yes to diversity?

Why couldn't they revamp the test(s), because there were two other tests that no one ever mentions, but then also allow for experience factor points. Hypothetically a kid with a 90 average on tests but experience factors would show strong academic competency and diversity vs what appears to be random right now.

Among all groups, including URMs, there are simply smarter kids, that this process currently doesn't identify. They went with the most expedient solution to meet their social engineering "wins" vs what made sense but took hard work.

Good question and I don't know. They clearly want a less informed admissions process than a more informed one. They can always incorporate experience factors into test scores and teachers' recommendations.

At my kid's school, they left out an African American kid who has advanced math courses and STEM awards but took some white kids who are layback and don't even care of TJ. But, well we have a "holistic" admissions process now LOL

He had a 4.0? They do look at GPA.

Not sure if it’s 4.0 may have some A-, should be very close. But, his grades are for sure better than those white kids.

It’s funny that they bring back all test scores and teachers’ recommendations in sophomore admissions.