TJ drop outs under the new admission standards
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Anonymous
More inconvenient facts, visualized. |
Anonymous
It seems pretty insignificant, and I'd read the largest beneficiaries of the new process were low-income Asians. |
Anonymous
Merit Test admissions: Class of 2022 Algebra 1 admits: 19 Class of 2023 Algebra 1 admits: 31 Class of 2024 Algebra 1 admits: 22 Essay lottery admissions: Class of 2024 Algebra 1 admits: 161 <-- one third of the class Cheating incidents widespread, after switching to essay lottery admissions |
Anonymous
Good. See the thread about taking Geometry in the summer - a stupid idea. As for your last sentence, could be true. But definitely was true before the admissions change. |
Anonymous
By merit you mean the test people bought advance copies of to help their kids chances? |
Anonymous
Yeah interesting because the if you look at the membership history of what a class at TJ started with September of 9th grade and what they graduated with, It paints a different picture. PP is using offers as a starting point and membership as an ending point. PP should use membership for both starting and ending as that probably more accurately tells how many kids couldnt continue at TJ. Using those numbers Net Loss for 2025 is 38 while net loss 14 for 2024, and 10 for 2023 and 9 for 2022. I don't think it's something super significant to the overall admissions discussion but it is just another negative datapoint. From a percentage perspective, given the larger class, it still shows greater than 2x increase in students leaving TJ than before the admissions change. |
Anonymous
bought from whom? 
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Anonymous
Of the 161 algebra 1 admits, 103 dropped, but thanks to rapidity of 56 froshmore admissions, mitigated the net to 47 reduced class size, still significantly high compared to previous years. |
Anonymous
I have all of the numbers. Happy to chart it all out. I was using the # of admits as a starting point because the 130 was based off the # of admits. Something about people stealing seats? Funny how you start shifting to different numbers when your original point doesn’t hold. |
Anonymous
So, just to clarify, you don’t want to use this math (^) anymore? 
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Anonymous
Maybe take a break? Im not PP. They're point about 130 using offers is an inaccurate framing of the issue. Many kids don't start at TJ for a number of reasons. As are people who are piling on your response of that uses offer-based numbers as a starting point. There was a large spike of kids who couldn't continue after starting at TJ compared to previous years. The rate more than doubled. As you said, the data is all there. I also don't think that fact alone is some big reveal. It's part of a larger trend of metrics that show how the new admission process is producing less desirable academic metrics. |
Anonymous
Sounds like the new DEI bus is stuck in Remedial Math lane.
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Anonymous
Who are you and why do you care? |
Anonymous
False Before the change, there was an average of 3.2% drop out and, after the change, it's 4.1%. Of course, the data will be more meaningful after a few more years, but overall, it's not that far off from previous years. When you take the % of declines it's right on par. And did the PP ever say where he got the 130? The only class with 441 that I saw was 2024 last year (not 2025). Maybe he read the data incorrectly. I'll add more data and charts tonight. |
Anonymous
Who cares when you put false data on your charts or when you bend over backward to shield the fact that the educrats are dumping down on TJ's quality. |