Hogan running for Senate

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Anonymous wrote:No thanks. He oversaw a stagnant economy in Maryland and that is not what we need here.

https://apnews.com/article/economic-analysis-maryland-3a7684772572a32fe9096324c3ed0db7

FYI:

Dems aren't known for their business friendly policies, in case you were thinking of voting for a Dem.

Dude for REAL. Any stagnation came at the hands of the democratic politicians in our state. Not hogan!! He’s a good guy. Don’t know about his pro choice views, will review. We need jobs jobs jobs!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I usually vote Democrat but I like Hogan a lot.

Thing is though, if Hogan wins and caucuses with Republicans, Donald Trump and MAGA Majority Leader will be setting the agenda, not “moderate” Larry Hogan. Sure, maybe once every 3 or 4 years he’ll vote against something you hate, but he’ll do so only if he’s been given permission beforehand because his vote isn’t needed. He will never ever EVER provide the deciding vote against something desired by Donald Trump or MAGA.

Everyone wants Maryland voters to vote strategically. Maybe they should just vote for whomever they feel will represent the whole state best in Congress.

If you want MAGA policies, by all means vote for Larry Hogan because that’s what you’ll be getting. Just don’t delude yourself into thinking that putting Larry Hogan in the U.S. Senate for 6 years will lead to more moderate legislation or SC justices. It won’t. Being a senator is nothing like being a governor.

What MAGA policies does Hogan support?

The ones supported by the Republicans in the Senate, if he gets elected. What do you think caucusing with the Republicans in the Senate means?

Why don’t you tell me what caucusing means? Individual Senators are given broad discretion so you seem to want to insinuate something with out actually saying it.

And how do they use this broad discretion that they are given?

Well, there was one Senator holding up all military promotions for months.

But you tell me what caucusing means. I am a Democrat planning on voting for Hogan so curious to know how it will fulfill the MAGA agenda, as you say.

Larry Hogan signs up with Team Republican. Team Republican pushes the MAGA agenda. Larry Hogan always provides the deciding votes if/when his votes are needed. Larry Hogan only becomes “moderate” when his vote is not needed.

What are you talking about? Making deciding votes in favor of MAGA policies is exactly the opposite of what Hogan is campaigning on. You say that caucusing is enough but cannot explain what that means in practical terms.

Please disregard whatever Larry Hogan is saying on the campaign trail right now to appear more moderate and get your vote. It doesn’t mean anything. Don’t kid yourself. If Trump wins, he will be calling the shots. Not Larry Hogan. And Hogan will do as he is told when his votes are needed. That’s just reality.

I disagree. I think Hogan has realized that this dream of presidency or beyond won't happen. He's handcuffed to Maryland. And there's nothing a moderate democrat from MD loves more than seeing a republican stand up to Trump.

He's 100% going to win. But I also have some faith that he'll stay true to how he's acted for the last 8 years and not be afraid of Trump

Exactly. It’s not like he’s a fluke. He not only won but was reelected as governor. He knows exactly what MD voters like and will act accordingly while in office or he will not not reelected. He’s going to win and will probably served a very long time.

I don’t know. Trump lost Maryland by 33 points in 2020 and David Trone (most likely) will be a tough matchup. Suburban Maryland voters are savvy. They understand the difference between a governor and senator. And Hogan absolutely cannot win without them. Despite his name recognition, this will be an uphill climb for Hogan.

Hogan won western Montgomery County in both elections. Suburban MD voters know what they are getting in Hogan and have no problem voting for him. But also, the state is much bigger than DC suburbs and I don’t think Trone can best Hogan in Baltimore County, Westminster, Eastern Shore, etc. Alsobrooks has absolutely zero chance.

Voting for governor and voting for senator are not the same thing, and voters understand this. That’s why you so often see Democratic governors in states that Biden wouldn’t have a chance in hell of winning. But we’ll see.

+1 I may have posted this earlier but Hogan will have similar results to Steve Bullock in Montana and Phil Bredesen in Tennessee, both very popular governors in the opposite party of what their states usually do, who then ran for Senate and lost. Voters are smart.

I am fascinated that you folks are just ignoring the polling. It will be fun watching the public freak out from people like you when Hogan wins.

It’s only April and the campaign hasn’t even begun yet. Because Roe v Wade was overturned, by Election Day Maryland Democrats, especially female Democrats, will be very focused on lifetime Supreme Court appointments. And Larry Hogan has promised to block all of Joe Biden’s nominees and almost certainly would provide the deciding vote for anyone nominated by Donald Trump.

I guess this is how the election is going to go, a bunch of people lying about Larry Hogan. He has made no such promises to do any of the things that you say.

I guess complaining about how he led Maryland to decreased unemployment, more revenue, balanced budgets, supported more road construction, canceled the Baltimore Red Line or that he approved the Purple Line amid significant Democratic pressure isn’t getting you the traction you thought among voters?

I'm not a committed Hogan voter but if he were to win, Congress would be gaining the type of person we want and need serving in high level government positions. Hogan is a Republican but not a partisan politician. We need more of these in Congress.

Someone who grifts and who hates urban areas and the people who live in them? No, that's not the type of person we want and need serving in high-level government positions.

Hogan represents his state not your SimCity save. Maryland has one major city with a declining population representing less than 10% of the state that is a drag on state resources.

A senator for Maryland is supposed to represent all of Maryland, not just some of Maryland.

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I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

If you don't know why "He'll caucus with Republicans" is a problem, I don't know what to say. Governors, Republican or otherwise, don't confirm Supreme Court justices. Senators do.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

Sure. Trone will provide the 50th and deciding vote to confirm Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. Hogan will provide the 50th and deciding vote to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Nothing a governor does is more important than that.

There is no legislation good for Maryland Hogan would vote for that Trone would vote against.

Everyone is free to vote for whomever they want of course, but if you’re a moderate Democrat, there really is no benefit to voting for Hogan.

[Anonymous]

Who has a better chance of beating Hogan? Trone or Alsobrooks?

Hogan is a no for me. Don’t want him to confirm GOP Supreme Court justice picks. Also, he won’t say if he would vote to codify Roe.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4516456-hogan-dodges-questions-on-codifying-roe-ivf/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who has a better chance of beating Hogan? Trone or Alsobrooks?

Hogan is a no for me. Don’t want him to confirm GOP Supreme Court justice picks. Also, he won’t say if he would vote to codify Roe.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4516456-hogan-dodges-questions-on-codifying-roe-ivf/

In other words, Hogan would vote against codifying Roe. (This is not surprising.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who has a better chance of beating Hogan? Trone or Alsobrooks?

Hogan is a no for me. Don’t want him to confirm GOP Supreme Court justice picks. Also, he won’t say if he would vote to codify Roe.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4516456-hogan-dodges-questions-on-codifying-roe-ivf/

That was my question, too

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Anonymous wrote:Who has a better chance of beating Hogan? Trone or Alsobrooks?

Hogan is a no for me. Don’t want him to confirm GOP Supreme Court justice picks. Also, he won’t say if he would vote to codify Roe.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4516456-hogan-dodges-questions-on-codifying-roe-ivf/

In other words, Hogan would vote against codifying Roe. (This is not surprising.)

+1

Hogan can be evasive about it because when he caucuses with Republicans and they have a majority, it won’t even come to a vote.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

Too much moderation and sense for a cesspit of extremism like DCUM!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:I have voted for Hogan in the past and will vote for him again.

He has proven himself to be a caring, dedicated, hardworking, and very responsible/ responsive public servant. He cares about Maryland deeply.

Trone is a filthy-rich fat-cat who made his billions peddling alcohol but acts like he’s always done the right thing for the community. He basically purchased his seat by massively out-spending his opponents. Now all he does is hob-knob with other billionaire do- outings littering the senate.

Sad truth is: Trone is all about Trone and his own inflated billionaire ego.

Larry Hogan has promised to caucus with Republicans and block all of Joe Biden’s Supreme Court nominees.

I think you need to take a hint from the comments here and realize Democrats need to do better than yelling “he’ll caucus with Republicans” to try and sway moderates away from Hogan. News flash, we know he’s a Republican, and we still voted for him for governor and think he’ll be a great Senator. Why don’t you try to explain why Trone would be a better senator and what he brings to the table other than just being a Democrat.

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To anyone reading this who hasn’t yet made up their mind: Hogan will vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominees. Trone will vote for Biden’s Supreme Court nominees. That’s all you need to know. Please ignore the nonsense rationalizations put forward by the Hogan apologists and go into this election with your eyes open. If you want Trump’s Supreme Court nominees, vote for Hogan. Because that’s what you’ll be getting. Not “moderation”. Trump’s SC nominees.

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Anonymous wrote:I usually vote Democrat but I like Hogan a lot.

Thing is though, if Hogan wins and caucuses with Republicans, Donald Trump and MAGA Majority Leader will be setting the agenda, not “moderate” Larry Hogan. Sure, maybe once every 3 or 4 years he’ll vote against something you hate, but he’ll do so only if he’s been given permission beforehand because his vote isn’t needed. He will never ever EVER provide the deciding vote against something desired by Donald Trump or MAGA.

Everyone wants Maryland voters to vote strategically. Maybe they should just vote for whomever they feel will represent the whole state best in Congress.

If you want MAGA policies, by all means vote for Larry Hogan because that’s what you’ll be getting. Just don’t delude yourself into thinking that putting Larry Hogan in the U.S. Senate for 6 years will lead to more moderate legislation or SC justices. It won’t. Being a senator is nothing like being a governor.

What MAGA policies does Hogan support?

The ones supported by the Republicans in the Senate, if he gets elected. What do you think caucusing with the Republicans in the Senate means?

Why don’t you tell me what caucusing means? Individual Senators are given broad discretion so you seem to want to insinuate something with out actually saying it.

And how do they use this broad discretion that they are given?

Well, there was one Senator holding up all military promotions for months.

But you tell me what caucusing means. I am a Democrat planning on voting for Hogan so curious to know how it will fulfill the MAGA agenda, as you say.

Larry Hogan signs up with Team Republican. Team Republican pushes the MAGA agenda. Larry Hogan always provides the deciding votes if/when his votes are needed. Larry Hogan only becomes “moderate” when his vote is not needed.

What are you talking about? Making deciding votes in favor of MAGA policies is exactly the opposite of what Hogan is campaigning on. You say that caucusing is enough but cannot explain what that means in practical terms.

Please disregard whatever Larry Hogan is saying on the campaign trail right now to appear more moderate and get your vote. It doesn’t mean anything. Don’t kid yourself. If Trump wins, he will be calling the shots. Not Larry Hogan. And Hogan will do as he is told when his votes are needed. That’s just reality.

I disagree. I think Hogan has realized that this dream of presidency or beyond won't happen. He's handcuffed to Maryland. And there's nothing a moderate democrat from MD loves more than seeing a republican stand up to Trump.

He's 100% going to win. But I also have some faith that he'll stay true to how he's acted for the last 8 years and not be afraid of Trump

Exactly. It’s not like he’s a fluke. He not only won but was reelected as governor. He knows exactly what MD voters like and will act accordingly while in office or he will not not reelected. He’s going to win and will probably served a very long time.

I don’t know. Trump lost Maryland by 33 points in 2020 and David Trone (most likely) will be a tough matchup. Suburban Maryland voters are savvy. They understand the difference between a governor and senator. And Hogan absolutely cannot win without them. Despite his name recognition, this will be an uphill climb for Hogan.

Hogan won western Montgomery County in both elections. Suburban MD voters know what they are getting in Hogan and have no problem voting for him. But also, the state is much bigger than DC suburbs and I don’t think Trone can best Hogan in Baltimore County, Westminster, Eastern Shore, etc. Alsobrooks has absolutely zero chance.

Voting for governor and voting for senator are not the same thing, and voters understand this. That’s why you so often see Democratic governors in states that Biden wouldn’t have a chance in hell of winning. But we’ll see.

+1 I may have posted this earlier but Hogan will have similar results to Steve Bullock in Montana and Phil Bredesen in Tennessee, both very popular governors in the opposite party of what their states usually do, who then ran for Senate and lost. Voters are smart.

I am fascinated that you folks are just ignoring the polling. It will be fun watching the public freak out from people like you when Hogan wins.

It’s only April and the campaign hasn’t even begun yet. Because Roe v Wade was overturned, by Election Day Maryland Democrats, especially female Democrats, will be very focused on lifetime Supreme Court appointments. And Larry Hogan has promised to block all of Joe Biden’s nominees and almost certainly would provide the deciding vote for anyone nominated by Donald Trump.

I guess this is how the election is going to go, a bunch of people lying about Larry Hogan. He has made no such promises to do any of the things that you say.

I guess complaining about how he led Maryland to decreased unemployment, more revenue, balanced budgets, supported more road construction, canceled the Baltimore Red Line or that he approved the Purple Line amid significant Democratic pressure isn’t getting you the traction you thought among voters?

I'm not a committed Hogan voter but if he were to win, Congress would be gaining the type of person we want and need serving in high level government positions. Hogan is a Republican but not a partisan politician. We need more of these in Congress.

Someone who grifts and who hates urban areas and the people who live in them? No, that's not the type of person we want and need serving in high-level government positions.

Hogan represents his state not your SimCity save. Maryland has one major city with a declining population representing less than 10% of the state that is a drag on state resources.

A senator for Maryland is supposed to represent all of Maryland, not just some of Maryland.

Would love to know Alsobrooks views on economic development for eastern shore and western MD. Once she’s done talking about her “historic candidacy”.