Registered sex offenders picking up kids from school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
You seem like a very reasonable person, and your response is well-thought-out and not hysterical in any way. As you point out, his offence might have been very minor. The thing is, from what I know of sex offender laws, it probably is illegal for him to be anywhere near a school, even to pick up his own children. My question is, who will benefit from this call to the police? Will neighborhood children be somehow safer? Will his own children, whose life has already been affected in many adverse ways from having a father on the registry, be better off if he can no longer pick them up? Even in the worst case scenario, if he is abusing his own kids, presumably the daylight walk from school to home in full view of the neighbors isn't where the crime takes place. So what would be your motivation for calling?

PP here.

I should have prefaced my recommendation with "If you really feel compelled to do something...". If it were me I would either assume the offender was someone else at the house or the guy was trying to rebuild his life after doing something stupid and let him get on with it. Maybe try find out what exactly he was convicted of. There are a lot of unknowns here.

IMO Sex offender lists are BS - they get filled with crap to the point where there is too much minor stuff on there when it should be reserved for predatory sex offenders who represent an ongoing risk to society but can't be kept in jail for some reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WTF?!? Oh, hell no!

Please say something if you are sure that this person is a registered offender. Print out the sheet from the database, make a thousand copies at Kinkos and hand them out to parents at drop-off and pickup.

If he is a parent, he needs to make other arrangements for his child to get home from school.

Always make sure you know why first. You can end up on that list for many reasons.

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If it's for statutory rape, I don't care nor should someone be on a list for that.

Sorry, totally disagree.

That's fine. You can disagree. Statatory rape isn't rape though in the actual sense of the word, that's all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF?!? Oh, hell no!

Please say something if you are sure that this person is a registered offender. Print out the sheet from the database, make a thousand copies at Kinkos and hand them out to parents at drop-off and pickup.

If he is a parent, he needs to make other arrangements for his child to get home from school.

Always make sure you know why first. You can end up on that list for many reasons.

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If it's for statutory rape, I don't care nor should someone be on a list for that.

Sorry, totally disagree.

Perhaps you'll agree when it's time to sell your house, but your next-door neighbors' 17-year-old kid who got charged with statutory rape on account of consensual sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend is on the list making your house lose 20% of its value.

[Anonymous]

How do you know he doesn't have a bedridden father with the same name living in his home? Or a cousin? Or an uncle?

That said, I would go to the police first to figure this out rather than the school. If you go straight to the school you could damage an innocent man's reputation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF?!? Oh, hell no!

Please say something if you are sure that this person is a registered offender. Print out the sheet from the database, make a thousand copies at Kinkos and hand them out to parents at drop-off and pickup.

If he is a parent, he needs to make other arrangements for his child to get home from school.

Always make sure you know why first. You can end up on that list for many reasons.

+1
If it's for statutory rape, I don't care nor should someone be on a list for that.

Sorry, totally disagree.

That's fine. You can disagree. Statatory rape isn't rape though in the actual sense of the word, that's all.

It's illegal for a reason. People are getting hurt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the rules on this? There is a registered sex offender that lives on my street, a few weeks ago I noticed him picking up a child from the elementry school up the street (I'm not sure if its his or not, I would assume so though). What is the rules and regulations on this and would you want to know as a parent if there was a sex offender around? I have not said anything to parents around me yet and I'm not sure if I should.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/i/indecent-liberties/

Based on one state's definition of the crime, it is indecent liberties ranging from exposure to fondling (but does not extend to rape or intercourse) of a teen (the given example is more than 14, no more than 16).

In this case, while I think the person needs to be observed, I don't think this person is a severe offender that is a significant threat at an elementary school picking up his child. Probably checking in with the principal to ensure that they are aware of his background and that there is a staff member of the school that is around during pickup is probably sufficient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you know he doesn't have a bedridden father with the same name living in his home? Or a cousin? Or an uncle?

That said, I would go to the police first to figure this out rather than the school. If you go straight to the school you could damage an innocent man's reputation.

There's a picture on file too. I'm positive it's the same guy, the only thing I am unsure of is if the kid is his or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the rules on this? There is a registered sex offender that lives on my street, a few weeks ago I noticed him picking up a child from the elementry school up the street (I'm not sure if its his or not, I would assume so though). What is the rules and regulations on this and would you want to know as a parent if there was a sex offender around? I have not said anything to parents around me yet and I'm not sure if I should.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/i/indecent-liberties/

Based on one state's definition of the crime, it is indecent liberties ranging from exposure to fondling (but does not extend to rape or intercourse) of a teen (the given example is more than 14, no more than 16).

In this case, while I think the person needs to be observed, I don't think this person is a severe offender that is a significant threat at an elementary school picking up his child. Probably checking in with the principal to ensure that they are aware of his background and that there is a staff member of the school that is around during pickup is probably sufficient.

Thank you this is the kind of answer I was looking for.

[Anonymous]

§ 18.2-370.1. Taking indecent liberties with child by person in custodial or supervisory relationship; penalties.

A. Any person 18 years of age or older who, except as provided in § 18.2-370, maintains a custodial or supervisory relationship over a child under the age of 18 and is not legally married to such child and such child is not emancipated who, with lascivious intent, knowingly and intentionally (i) proposes that any such child feel or fondle the sexual or genital parts of such person or that such person feel or handle the sexual or genital parts of the child; or (ii) proposes to such child the performance of an act of sexual intercourse or any act constituting an offense under § 18.2-361; or (iii) exposes his or her sexual or genital parts to such child; or (iv) proposes that any such child expose his or her sexual or genital parts to such person; or (v) proposes to the child that the child engage in sexual intercourse, sodomy or fondling of sexual or genital parts with another person; or (vi) sexually abuses the child as defined in § 18.2-67.10 (6), shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-370.1

Although in VA (where I am) the law only says under 18 so the child could have been younger.

[Anonymous]

You can't get on the sex offender registry unless you've been convicted of the crime (simple charge wouldn't get you there). Most sex offenders in most states (notice I say most) have a requirement that keeps you certain distance from a school.

Even IF he was the parent and he was a sex offender of a certain type in a state with that requirement, he would not be allowed to pick his child up from school.

Be sure you visit the DOJ sex offender registry at www.nsopw.gov.

[Anonymous]

OP watch your hysteria before you get sued. Keep yourself in check before trying to check others. Seriously.


YOu don't have all of the facts, and you are treading dangerous ground. Be smart and know when to STFU.

[Anonymous]

I would not worry about a Sex Offender so much as I would worry about a Sexual Predator. Predators are those that have physically harmed someone and have committed the most egregious acts, whereas a person can put on the Offender list for doing something as simple as urinating in public and their offense does not include physical contact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are laws about how many feet away they must stay from schools and playgrounds aren't there?

Depends on the crime

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't get on the sex offender registry unless you've been convicted of the crime (simple charge wouldn't get you there). Most sex offenders in most states (notice I say most) have a requirement that keeps you certain distance from a school.

Even IF he was the parent and he was a sex offender of a certain type in a state with that requirement, he would not be allowed to pick his child up from school.

Be sure you visit the DOJ sex offender registry at www.nsopw.gov.

That is simply not true and there are laws against harassment. Just call the police. They will know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WTF?!? Oh, hell no!

Please say something if you are sure that this person is a registered offender. Print out the sheet from the database, make a thousand copies at Kinkos and hand them out to parents at drop-off and pickup.

If he is a parent, he needs to make other arrangements for his child to get home from school.

Calm down, you moron. It does the child and other parent no good at all to have their private life plastered all over the neighborhood.

If OP is certain that the man is the person identified on the registry, then OP can call the Principal, who is mandated reporter, and tell him or her privately. OP can also call the police and let them know. OP can also call CPS and let them know. OP can do all three. What OP should NOT do... is gossip to all and sundry!