Impressive young woman

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a student at USC and a I am glad that she is not being allowed to speak. This is neither the time or place to politicize a speech that is meant to be a celebration of 4 years of hard work by ALL the students. The pro-Palestinian protests are all over the place and there are many forums in which to make your voice heard. Just the other day, roads were blocked to O'Hare and the Golden Gate bridge. Columbia University has on-going protests. Or you can just take your sentiments where they belong and vote for people who share your common views.

Let's no kid ourselves here that this would not make Jewish students uncomfortable. Can't they all just be students for a day and celebrate their common achievements or do we need to continue down this road where everything is a political sh!!!tshow?

The presence of a Muslim woman makes Jewish students uncomfortable? That’s literally what you’re saying, as she had not even written her remarks yet. You’ve jumped to so many conclusions on her based on what? Her ethnicity and religion. Do you want to go down this road?

We do no favors for our kids when we try to keep them in a bubble of likeminded sycophants.

I actually would give this woman the benefit of the doubt that she would give a speech that is uplifting and uniting, as she has promised.

-Father of Jewish children

Dear Father of Jewish Children

When a student of this caliber has a link on a social media site calling for the destruction of Israel, I have jumped to no conclusions. Over 200,000 people signed a petition calling for her to be removed. You may have all the free speech you want and you may expose your children to as many hateful messages as you would like, but Jewish students are being harrassed and bullied on a daily basis at these schools and made to feel unsafe. It has absolutely happened at USC and my daughter has seen it first hand. Have you forgotten the images of students banging on the door at a college trying to get inside a room that Jewish students were held up in?

This is not meant to shield them but to provide them ONE DAY, a respectful environment in which to celebrate their accomplishments.

They see harrassment every day. Have you not seen the congressional hearings wth these so called presidents that finally admitted that anti-semitism absolutely has been very present on their campuses?

I have no ill will toward this young woman, but free speech has consequences and unfortunately she shared an inciteful link and that message matters.

Signed a Catholic Mom

I am not going to respond anymore - I said what I said.

Can you show us the text of her graduation speech that you found offensive?

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Total Streisand Effect at USC, all to placate some wealthy donors. The sight of a visible Muslim woman was too much.

Look this is what Bill Ackman and company set out to accomplish. Mission accomplished. Could you imagine the outage if a student who was Jewish was denied and silenced(who knows what she was going to say) in the same way.

The administration after pressure from unidentified groups on and off campus has denied a Jewish student the right to speak because she was Jewish. The unidentified groups said the student was jewish and must be made an example of.

You're joking right? You can't believe how many Jewish speakers voices have been silenced in the last 6 months or you haven't been paying attention at all. Look up Jamie Raskin just as a starting point who wasn't even speaking as a Jew, but as a member of Congress. Imagine your outrage! Just imagine it!

But this post is already going in the college section.

This is such a bullsh#t reply. The Pro Israel crowd has oppressed and targeted individuals in an organized assault on free speech and American values. The only Jews who are not allowed to speak are the ones who tried to speak out against Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians.

Also take a look at Claudine Gay. Someone who never had a hint of antisemitism is all of her work was targeted by you people, removed from her job as an example to others. At the same time Bill Ackman crowd openly pushed to double Jew student percentage at every Ivy. Calling it antisemitism that Penn was not at 35%.

Show me one pro Israeli voice was treat the same way as this girl or anyone who spoke out against Israel.

“You people” is all I need to know about you.

[Anonymous]

Ilhan Omar’s daughter, Isra Hirsi, suspended from Barnard College for her involvement in anti-Israel protests
Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar’s daughter, Isra Hirsi, revealed Thursday that she has been suspended from Barnard College over her involvement in disruptive anti-Israel protests on Columbia University’s Morningside campus at which scores of demonstrators were arrested.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/18/us-news/ilhan-omars-daughter-suspended-from-barnard-college-for-her-involvement-in-anti-israel-protests/

Bet you people had her on the list!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did not post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

Edit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

DP. I mean, yes, that link didn't appear there by accident. She has views and she speaks them. In one of her interviews of the past day or two, she said that while she hadn't yet written her speech, she had intended to be both unifying and political in her speech. Given her political views, that seems impossible. And inflammatory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

Would you feel the same if her bio had a link to a white supremacist site?

Serious question.

This stuff is hardly unique to the Israel/Palestine situation--folks have been getting canceled for "offensive" online speech for the last 20 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

DP. I mean, yes, that link didn't appear there by accident. She has views and she speaks them. In one of her interviews of the past day or two, she said that while she hadn't yet written her speech, she had intended to be both unifying and political in her speech. Given her political views, that seems impossible. And inflammatory.

Which interview? I saw the Abby Philips interview and she said that her intention was to be uniting and uplifting.

Sorry, but I don’t like this idea that we are canceling people based on nothing they actually said or advocated. It’s way too Minority Report for me. People are literally freaking out because she’s a visible Muslim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

Would you feel the same if her bio had a link to a white supremacist site?

Serious question.

This stuff is hardly unique to the Israel/Palestine situation--folks have been getting canceled for "offensive" online speech for the last 20 years.

That website was not akin to StormFront.

Should a Jewish student not be able to speak if they state they are a supporter of Bezalel Smotrich, Netanyahu’s finance minister?

Here’s his quotes:
To Israeli-Arab politicians in the Knesset: “You're here by mistake, it's a mistake that Ben-Gurion didn't finish the job and didn't throw you out in 1948.”

On a settler pogroms against a West Bank village: “I believe that the village of Huwara should be wiped out. I believe that the state of Israel should do so, and not, God forbid, ordinary individuals."

He has said there is no Palestinian people, no Palestinian history, and that Palestine should not exist.

That’s very similar to the website. I’m sure there’s plenty of Likud supporters at USC. I guess they should be canceled too?

Like I said, this young woman has - by all reports I’ve read - not been actively involved in the campus protests. I do hope USC is investigated, because this is very close to both a Title IV and religious discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

DP. I mean, yes, that link didn't appear there by accident. She has views and she speaks them. In one of her interviews of the past day or two, she said that while she hadn't yet written her speech, she had intended to be both unifying and political in her speech. Given her political views, that seems impossible. And inflammatory.

Which interview? I saw the Abby Philips interview and she said that her intention was to be uniting and uplifting.

Sorry, but I don’t like this idea that we are canceling people based on nothing they actually said or advocated. It’s way too Minority Report for me. People are literally freaking out because she’s a visible Muslim.

Here is the quote. I misquoted her:

TABASSUM: So, the valedictorian honor is ultimately a unifying honor, right? It's emblematic of USC's unifying values. And I think I take that to heart.

I wanted my speech to be in the genre of a valedictory speech, and so that being said, I wanted to impart a message of hope. I also wanted to impart a message of responsibility.

We are given a wonderful set of higher education. We have been given the knowledge of learning how to learn. And so I wanted to encourage my peers to learn about the world and come to their own conclusions and then act to change the world in the ways that they see fit.

And so ultimately, taking in my role as valedictorian, I wanted to be a unifying voice for all students, and that was preemptively taken away from me.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/usc-valedictorian-speaks-after-school-canceled-commencement-speech/story?id=109344690

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total Streisand Effect at USC, all to placate some wealthy donors. The sight of a visible Muslim woman was too much.

Look this is what Bill Ackman and company set out to accomplish. Mission accomplished. Could you imagine the outage if a student who was Jewish was denied and silenced(who knows what she was going to say) in the same way.

The administration after pressure from unidentified groups on and off campus has denied a Jewish student the right to speak because she was Jewish. The unidentified groups said the student was jewish and must be made an example of.

You're joking right? You can't believe how many Jewish speakers voices have been silenced in the last 6 months or you haven't been paying attention at all. Look up Jamie Raskin just as a starting point who wasn't even speaking as a Jew, but as a member of Congress. Imagine your outrage! Just imagine it!

But this post is already going in the college section.

This is such a bullsh#t reply. The Pro Israel crowd has oppressed and targeted individuals in an organized assault on free speech and American values. The only Jews who are not allowed to speak are the ones who tried to speak out against Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians.

Also take a look at Claudine Gay. Someone who never had a hint of antisemitism is all of her work was targeted by you people, removed from her job as an example to others. At the same time Bill Ackman crowd openly pushed to double Jew student percentage at every Ivy. Calling it antisemitism that Penn was not at 35%.

Show me one pro Israeli voice was treat the same way as this girl or anyone who spoke out against Israel.

“You people” is all I need to know about you.

+1. “You people” is all I need to know about you."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

Would you feel the same if her bio had a link to a white supremacist site?

Serious question.

This stuff is hardly unique to the Israel/Palestine situation--folks have been getting canceled for "offensive" online speech for the last 20 years.

That website was not akin to StormFront.

Should a Jewish student not be able to speak if they state they are a supporter of Bezalel Smotrich, Netanyahu’s finance minister?

Here’s his quotes:
To Israeli-Arab politicians in the Knesset: “You're here by mistake, it's a mistake that Ben-Gurion didn't finish the job and didn't throw you out in 1948.”

On a settler pogroms against a West Bank village: “I believe that the village of Huwara should be wiped out. I believe that the state of Israel should do so, and not, God forbid, ordinary individuals."

He has said there is no Palestinian people, no Palestinian history, and that Palestine should not exist.

That’s very similar to the website. I’m sure there’s plenty of Likud supporters at USC. I guess they should be canceled too?

Like I said, this young woman has - by all reports I’ve read - not been actively involved in the campus protests. I do hope USC is investigated, because this is very close to both a Title IV and religious discrimination.

No, linking to the website is fine. Having views is fine and expressing them is fine. But she cannot be a unifying voice right now. It is impossible in the current climate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Because she stated her view that Israel is an apartheid state that undermines human rights, you expect her to be unemployable? Who are you saying exerts this pressure and wields this much power? sounds like an anti-Semitic trope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes let her go on more tv channels and have her minute of fame. When it all dies down good luck getting the jobs and scholarship opportunities leading to more wealth. Nobody wants a rabble rouser working for them as Google has proved. She can join some far fringe activist outfits but twenty years from now she will be complaining how her peers can afford the trappings of wealth and she will be forgotten.

Rabble rouser? You’re literally trying to parse the social media page of a random STEM student in California. She didn’t even have a public social media page. She apparently did post her own views online. You’re inferring so much off a single hyperlink a college student had in their bio on Instagram.

Honestly? You sound like Mao’s Red Guard, hunting down for anyone wrong-think. I think you don’t even realize how rabid you appear.

Would you feel the same if her bio had a link to a white supremacist site?

Serious question.

This stuff is hardly unique to the Israel/Palestine situation--folks have been getting canceled for "offensive" online speech for the last 20 years.

That website was not akin to StormFront.

Should a Jewish student not be able to speak if they state they are a supporter of Bezalel Smotrich, Netanyahu’s finance minister?

Here’s his quotes:
To Israeli-Arab politicians in the Knesset: “You're here by mistake, it's a mistake that Ben-Gurion didn't finish the job and didn't throw you out in 1948.”

On a settler pogroms against a West Bank village: “I believe that the village of Huwara should be wiped out. I believe that the state of Israel should do so, and not, God forbid, ordinary individuals."

He has said there is no Palestinian people, no Palestinian history, and that Palestine should not exist.

That’s very similar to the website. I’m sure there’s plenty of Likud supporters at USC. I guess they should be canceled too?

Like I said, this young woman has - by all reports I’ve read - not been actively involved in the campus protests. I do hope USC is investigated, because this is very close to both a Title IV and religious discrimination.

No, linking to the website is fine. Having views is fine and expressing them is fine. But she cannot be a unifying voice right now. It is impossible in the current climate.

Because she’s Muslim and Jewish USC students can’t handle that?

Come on, this person has not done anything remotely similar to what’s being lobbed at her. You’re hurting Israel’s cause right now by engaging in these hysterics and gunning after some random college student who has been very hands-off and quiet about the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

You’re literally tearing to shreds a student over a hyperlink. Do you realize how you are hurting your own effort?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a student at USC and a I am glad that she is not being allowed to speak. This is neither the time or place to politicize a speech that is meant to be a celebration of 4 years of hard work by ALL the students. The pro-Palestinian protests are all over the place and there are many forums in which to make your voice heard. Just the other day, roads were blocked to O'Hare and the Golden Gate bridge. Columbia University has on-going protests. Or you can just take your sentiments where they belong and vote for people who share your common views.

Let's no kid ourselves here that this would not make Jewish students uncomfortable. Can't they all just be students for a day and celebrate their common achievements or do we need to continue down this road where everything is a political sh!!!tshow?

The presence of a Muslim woman makes Jewish students uncomfortable? That’s literally what you’re saying, as she had not even written her remarks yet. You’ve jumped to so many conclusions on her based on what? Her ethnicity and religion. Do you want to go down this road?

We do no favors for our kids when we try to keep them in a bubble of likeminded sycophants.

I actually would give this woman the benefit of the doubt that she would give a speech that is uplifting and uniting, as she has promised.

-Father of Jewish children

Mother of Jewish children

If you believe that she was going to give a speech that is uplifting and uniting I have a bridge to sell you.

Have you seen her website and Instagram? Her BS response that she did not post the "extermination of Jews" which was on her website and Instagram. She doesn't get to deny that when it's her social media.

"likeminded sycophants" Are you a Jewish Trumper?

I agree yes she should speak because in this country we celebrate free speech.

She could talk about any subject and yet she will pick this one. College graduation ceremonies have speeches they don't have to be about this particular subject.

And if she speaks then protesting is fine too because that right is still a thing.

After Trump wins Free Speech is gone for good so is protesting.