Project 2025 if Trump were to win

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This is 100% true. Even on this thread there’s a pp who said they think Project 2025, the GOP’s publicly stated goals, are “unrealistic.”

Go back in time to 2012 or thereabouts and tell yourself back then that the GOP elected Donald Trump, even after they knew he was working with Russia. And then tell them he tried to overthrow the government and the GOP is still supporting him, even after he’s been convicted of rape and has 90+ criminal indictments against him and suffers from clear signs of dementia. “Unrealistic” doesn’t really apply to the GOP anymore. They do what they want.

[Anonymous]

Did you think Steve "heads on pikes" Bannon was kidding? Did you think the J6 nooses were a joke? Why would this surprise anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you think Steve "heads on pikes" Bannon was kidding? Did you think the J6 nooses were a joke? Why would this surprise anyone?

Or what Tommy Tuberville is doing to our military right now. It’s literally happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I hear in this thread from Conservatives is criticism of Biden. Nobody has come forward with a defense of the 2025 Plan.

I don't have an issue with it. I think the media that has written pieces on it are full-on fear mongering.

This is an effort to get everything in place for a Republican president come 2025. Bring in people who are not politicians, train them, help them understand the roles of different agencies, provide support and connections.

Nothing I see about this plan supports anything that is unconstitutional.

[Anonymous]

We can expect a lot more of this with the GOP making and enforcing the rules

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I hear in this thread from Conservatives is criticism of Biden. Nobody has come forward with a defense of the 2025 Plan.

I don't have an issue with it. I think the media that has written pieces on it are full-on fear mongering.

This is an effort to get everything in place for a Republican president come 2025. Bring in people who are not politicians, train them, help them understand the roles of different agencies, provide support and connections.

Nothing I see about this plan supports anything that is unconstitutional.

Just wait til you are on the outside of the circle of trust.

[Anonymous]

2025 Americans have one shot at keeping Democracy and that is to vote blue

god help the US if it goes red bec they are already showing we will be owned by Putin.

not sure why anyone thinks a dictatorship is something to vote for but aporox 50 percent of this country voted for don the con and think Republicans have evidence to impeach Biden.

maga is a stupid cult right now they think trumps trial in NY is criminal. Seriously they are all dumb. They will follow Republicans til we are under North Korean laws

And they think they will keep their guns. Like I said idiots

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2025 Americans have one shot at keeping Democracy and that is to vote blue

god help the US if it goes red bec they are already showing we will be owned by Putin.

not sure why anyone thinks a dictatorship is something to vote for but aporox 50 percent of this country voted for don the con and think Republicans have evidence to impeach Biden.

maga is a stupid cult right now they think trumps trial in NY is criminal. Seriously they are all dumb. They will follow Republicans til we are under North Korean laws

And they think they will keep their guns. Like I said idiots

Because they think they will be protected. They think brown people will be officially placed into a second tier of citizenship, women’s rights will depend on who they’re married to, that icky gay people will have to go back in the closet, etc. Things will go back to White men in charge.

Evidently not a one of them has read a book about authoritarianism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot read the WaPo piece.... paywall.
But, based on OP's post, this seems like nothing more than fear mongering.

I did some research on Project 25. It is basically a transition project to bring in conservative outsiders to be able to hit the ground running in Jan. 2025 regardless of WHAT Republican wins the election. Paul Dans, director, calls this project "candidate agnostic."

The website: https://www.project2025.org
Interview on CSPAN with Paul Dans, director of project explaining more about it: https://www.c-span.org/video/?530201-3/paul-dans-2025-presidential-transition-project

Gift link to the article. It’s not just a transition project.
https://wapo.st/472QHpp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I hear in this thread from Conservatives is criticism of Biden. Nobody has come forward with a defense of the 2025 Plan.

I don't have an issue with it. I think the media that has written pieces on it are full-on fear mongering.

This is an effort to get everything in place for a Republican president come 2025. Bring in people who are not politicians, train them, help them understand the roles of different agencies, provide support and connections.

Nothing I see about this plan supports anything that is unconstitutional.

Then you know nothing about the Constitution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I hear in this thread from Conservatives is criticism of Biden. Nobody has come forward with a defense of the 2025 Plan.

I don't have an issue with it. I think the media that has written pieces on it are full-on fear mongering.

This is an effort to get everything in place for a Republican president come 2025. Bring in people who are not politicians, train them, help them understand the roles of different agencies, provide support and connections.

Nothing I see about this plan supports anything that is unconstitutional.

Then you know nothing about the Constitution.

Regressives have long had a problem understanding the Constitution. It’s why the “originalists” are so happy to massage things in their favor and happy to massage things away from others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not going to vote for Trump, but I find this a bit unrealistic and maybe something to scare those who are on the fence about voting for him.
Yes I agree Trump is a disaster but I just find it hard to believe all this project 2025 stuff. Maybe some nut jobs are planning it but they won’t be able to execute it.

Why do you find it unrealistic? They are literally telling you what they are going to do.

Trump already has a record of weaponizing the DOJ (see the Durham report) and staging a coup to overturn his losing election. Why would you think this is not a valid issue?

Because they blah blah a lot, they might even try (J6) but it will be easy to defeat and then he will be impeached.
I believe in checks and balances.
Despite what others are saying, his 4 years didn’t bring a disaster. Yes it was bad, but nothing catastrophic happened.

Let me make it clear: I am not saying Trump is a good candidate. I am just against greatly overestimating what he is actually able to do. Checks and balances!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not going to vote for Trump, but I find this a bit unrealistic and maybe something to scare those who are on the fence about voting for him.
Yes I agree Trump is a disaster but I just find it hard to believe all this project 2025 stuff. Maybe some nut jobs are planning it but they won’t be able to execute it.

What do you find "a bit unrealistic" about it?

It truly fascinates me that people will simply dismiss this possibility out of hand when we have ample evidence in the form of things Trump actually DID:

-deploying anonymous federal forces in DC
-directing OMB not to release transition funds
-signing the Executive Order for Schedule F
-firing Mark Esper at DOD, firing James Comey, firing Jeff Sessions

as well as things he tried to do:

-steal an election
-firing Gina Haspel at CIA
-blackmail the President of Ukraine,
-install loyalists at all levels of government

and then say things like, "this is unrealistic," or this is fear-mongering. If you truly believe that then I urge you to wake up.

I have a feeling that all the people that are sitting around thinking none of the above applies to them may end up with a very rude wake up call when they find out that they aren't as insulated as they think.

Blackmail Ukrainian President and there is no war. Nobody is blackmailing him - and half his country is in ruins. Isn’t it strange?

What Trump did was bad but no major wars happened and the world didn’t stop turning.

Campaign against him, I am against him too, but this attitude of “omigosh the horror” doesn’t help anyone really.
People think you are just exaggerating!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When Trump won in 2016 I thought world was going to end. I think I may have cried, I certainly saw people on the bus crying when results were announced. I found his presidency years to be uneventful. Did you feel like the world was ending and chaos was making you feel like there is no future during the 4 years of his presidency? Do you feel more like it now? Be honest.

I am sure the OP did
This is exactly what I am talking about - our democracy is more stable than we think and the end of the world isn’t coming.
I will also wager a bet that Ukraine war will finally end

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not going to vote for Trump, but I find this a bit unrealistic and maybe something to scare those who are on the fence about voting for him.
Yes I agree Trump is a disaster but I just find it hard to believe all this project 2025 stuff. Maybe some nut jobs are planning it but they won’t be able to execute it.

You “find this a bit unrealistic.”

Voters like you used to say the same thing when people like me warned you that the GOP wanted to overturn Roe. Roe is overturned.

People like you downplayed any threat of violence from Trump’s followers. January 6th happened; the coup failed by the skin of its teeth.

People like you said of claims that the GOP was becoming increasingly fascist were overblown; school book shelves were bare in some states in response to broad categories of books being banned.

Trump is promising violence on his enemies. He’s promising to invoke the Insurrection Act. The GOP already has lists of people who are willing to come take these formerly non-political positions after Trump fires them all (that’s in the article from PBS). The Heritage Foundation means business on this: they have a website, a coffee table book of their plan, they have a twitter account, they maintain their Wikipedia page.

Do you like the general premise of America? Non-retributive, non-corrupt, apolitical, a functional government that gets things done? Don’t call this “unrealistic.” Understand that the GOP is telegraphing their goals to you and every other voter in the plainest way possible.

Honestly I am more worried about wars than abortion.
Call me egocentric but I live in CA so it’s not going to be a problem
And the coup was overturned easily
Again, not saying Trump is great. But it’s not the end of the world if he wins.
Of course no sane person will vote for him but I am just trying to say that panic mode isn’t quite helping