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Anonymous wrote:Why anyone in administration listens to APE is beyond me. They say nice things to our faces and then testify on the Hill, get quoted in WaPo and quietly work with RW think tanks doing the opposite. I feel like in a few years I'm going to be saying "I told you so" as APS gets defunded, not by Republicans but by our neighbors pretending to be Democrats to get footholds in all power strongholds.

Anyone that knows Kathleen should encourage her to get out of their FB group. It will do no good for her campaign. Listen to them, but don't give them any more legitimacy than they already lack.


+1 And tell her to stop posting pics of her and Miranda. She's still my first choice, but wondering who she listens to if she's in their FB group and she's posting pictures with her.


Miranda should endorse Kathleen then.


Maybe Kathleen is the APE plant. Dog help us all.


Kathleen is NOT an APE plant. C'mon.


You sure? Sounds like Kathleen and Miranda are bffs. I just went to vpap and some others have donated to her big money.

Disappointing. But it’s a disappointing race.


APE is smart enough to donate to the candidate they think is going to win. That's what PACs do.
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So to recap:

Kathleen is engaging with APE, and has made friends with them
Chen might not be APE, but everything coming out of his mouth screams it
Zuraya’s only job is to collect useless endorsements
And where’s Larry?


#APSSBCandidates2024
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Anonymous wrote:Chen has served on zero advisory committees and voted to approve zero minutes. We have crappy candidates apart from Kathleen, so there’s the watermark, I guess.


He’s not trying to inflate his credentials either. Since she already has all the endorsements, Zuraya should just be honest she doesn’t have much experience.


But Zuraya does have experience, she worked at Meta, the parent company of FB and Instagram.

“Meta the company that owns Facebook and Instagram has for years relied on both social media platforms to keep children and teenagers engaged for as long as possible in order to gather personal data and sell it to advertisers, a group of state prosecutors alleged in a recently unsealed complaint.

Attorneys general in 33 states filed a federal lawsuit against Meta in October, although the details at the time were not immediately released. The complaint, unsealed Wednesday, unveils more specifics, such as allegations from state prosecutors that Meta harmed young users on Facebook and Instagram through the use of highly manipulative algorithms and technological tools. that was accused by attorney generals in 33 states for creating addictive technology for youth to keep them hooked “




This is ridiculous. I’m voting for Kathleen and Chen but don’t need to drag Zuraya through the mud.

And we’re surprised no one more qualified wants to run for school board.


What did Zuraya do at Meta? She's a lobbyist right?


+1


DP, not a Zuraya fan or booster.

I’m actually okay with lobbyists running for SB. APS could use some help in that department down in Richmond rn.

And let’s not pretend that some of you Arlington parents aren’t federal/state lobbyists too. APE seems to have a lot of them spreading tears about “learning loss”


APE itself is a lobbying org now (anti-education).


Can you explain how APE is anti education? I don't like them, just wasn't aware that this is their new thing.


Republican plan:
1. defund public schools (Hi Youngkin! How’s that budget?)
2. crap on then relentlessly to lower public opinion and overwhelm the school district (APE, etc)
3. Push for vouchers to subsidize private school for their kids





Ive never seen APE support any of these. Can you show explains? I’m truly curious. The last I heard /saw they were promoting less Tech use (which I’m for) and questioning the retake policy, which did end up being a disaster and APS changed. I know dcumers love to hate ape but I’m genuinely curious to see when ape has promoted any of this.

i remember one guy in that FB APS group would promote school choice all the time but he had no affiliation with APE. So where are you seeing this?


Voucher guy was definitely in APE
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Anonymous wrote:Why anyone in administration listens to APE is beyond me. They say nice things to our faces and then testify on the Hill, get quoted in WaPo and quietly work with RW think tanks doing the opposite. I feel like in a few years I'm going to be saying "I told you so" as APS gets defunded, not by Republicans but by our neighbors pretending to be Democrats to get footholds in all power strongholds.

Anyone that knows Kathleen should encourage her to get out of their FB group. It will do no good for her campaign. Listen to them, but don't give them any more legitimacy than they already lack.


+1 And tell her to stop posting pics of her and Miranda. She's still my first choice, but wondering who she listens to if she's in their FB group and she's posting pictures with her.


Miranda should endorse Kathleen then.


Maybe Kathleen is the APE plant. Dog help us all.


Kathleen is NOT an APE plant. C'mon.


You sure? Sounds like Kathleen and Miranda are bffs. I just went to vpap and some others have donated to her big money.

Disappointing. But it’s a disappointing race.


APE is smart enough to donate to the candidate they think is going to win. That's what PACs do.


And Kathleen is smart enough to take their cash and votes too. Even more because AEA did not endorse her.
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Anonymous wrote:Why anyone in administration listens to APE is beyond me. They say nice things to our faces and then testify on the Hill, get quoted in WaPo and quietly work with RW think tanks doing the opposite. I feel like in a few years I'm going to be saying "I told you so" as APS gets defunded, not by Republicans but by our neighbors pretending to be Democrats to get footholds in all power strongholds.

Anyone that knows Kathleen should encourage her to get out of their FB group. It will do no good for her campaign. Listen to them, but don't give them any more legitimacy than they already lack.


+1 And tell her to stop posting pics of her and Miranda. She's still my first choice, but wondering who she listens to if she's in their FB group and she's posting pictures with her.


Miranda should endorse Kathleen then.


Maybe Kathleen is the APE plant. Dog help us all.


Kathleen is NOT an APE plant. C'mon.


You sure? Sounds like Kathleen and Miranda are bffs. I just went to vpap and some others have donated to her big money.

Disappointing. But it’s a disappointing race.


APE is smart enough to donate to the candidate they think is going to win. That's what PACs do.


Wait. Is APE a PAC?
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Like he was making decisions about APE’s stances/ initiatives….or he joined the Facebook group, made a lot of noise on there & AEM and you’ve now decided he is the face of APE?
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Anonymous wrote:Why anyone in administration listens to APE is beyond me. They say nice things to our faces and then testify on the Hill, get quoted in WaPo and quietly work with RW think tanks doing the opposite. I feel like in a few years I'm going to be saying "I told you so" as APS gets defunded, not by Republicans but by our neighbors pretending to be Democrats to get footholds in all power strongholds.

Anyone that knows Kathleen should encourage her to get out of their FB group. It will do no good for her campaign. Listen to them, but don't give them any more legitimacy than they already lack.


+1 And tell her to stop posting pics of her and Miranda. She's still my first choice, but wondering who she listens to if she's in their FB group and she's posting pictures with her.


Miranda should endorse Kathleen then.


Maybe Kathleen is the APE plant. Dog help us all.


Kathleen is NOT an APE plant. C'mon.


You sure? Sounds like Kathleen and Miranda are bffs. I just went to vpap and some others have donated to her big money.

Disappointing. But it’s a disappointing race.


APE is smart enough to donate to the candidate they think is going to win. That's what PACs do.


Wait. Is APE a PAC?


It's a 501c3 lobbying group.
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Anonymous wrote:Why anyone in administration listens to APE is beyond me. They say nice things to our faces and then testify on the Hill, get quoted in WaPo and quietly work with RW think tanks doing the opposite. I feel like in a few years I'm going to be saying "I told you so" as APS gets defunded, not by Republicans but by our neighbors pretending to be Democrats to get footholds in all power strongholds.

Anyone that knows Kathleen should encourage her to get out of their FB group. It will do no good for her campaign. Listen to them, but don't give them any more legitimacy than they already lack.


+1 And tell her to stop posting pics of her and Miranda. She's still my first choice, but wondering who she listens to if she's in their FB group and she's posting pictures with her.


Miranda should endorse Kathleen then.


Maybe Kathleen is the APE plant. Dog help us all.


Kathleen is NOT an APE plant. C'mon.


You sure? Sounds like Kathleen and Miranda are bffs. I just went to vpap and some others have donated to her big money.

Disappointing. But it’s a disappointing race.


APE is smart enough to donate to the candidate they think is going to win. That's what PACs do.


Wait. Is APE a PAC?


It's a 501c3 lobbying group.


sorry I think it's a 501c4.
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Anonymous wrote:Like he was making decisions about APE’s stances/ initiatives….or he joined the Facebook group, made a lot of noise on there & AEM and you’ve now decided he is the face of APE?


Not sure what it means to be the face of APE. You said he had no affiliation. That was not correct. I was there too. I saw what I saw.
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Anonymous wrote:Chen has served on zero advisory committees and voted to approve zero minutes. We have crappy candidates apart from Kathleen, so there’s the watermark, I guess.


He’s not trying to inflate his credentials either. Since she already has all the endorsements, Zuraya should just be honest she doesn’t have much experience.


But Zuraya does have experience, she worked at Meta, the parent company of FB and Instagram.

“Meta the company that owns Facebook and Instagram has for years relied on both social media platforms to keep children and teenagers engaged for as long as possible in order to gather personal data and sell it to advertisers, a group of state prosecutors alleged in a recently unsealed complaint.

Attorneys general in 33 states filed a federal lawsuit against Meta in October, although the details at the time were not immediately released. The complaint, unsealed Wednesday, unveils more specifics, such as allegations from state prosecutors that Meta harmed young users on Facebook and Instagram through the use of highly manipulative algorithms and technological tools. that was accused by attorney generals in 33 states for creating addictive technology for youth to keep them hooked “




This is ridiculous. I’m voting for Kathleen and Chen but don’t need to drag Zuraya through the mud.

And we’re surprised no one more qualified wants to run for school board.


What did Zuraya do at Meta? She's a lobbyist right?


+1


DP, not a Zuraya fan or booster.

I’m actually okay with lobbyists running for SB. APS could use some help in that department down in Richmond rn.

And let’s not pretend that some of you Arlington parents aren’t federal/state lobbyists too. APE seems to have a lot of them spreading tears about “learning loss”


APE itself is a lobbying org now (anti-education).


Can you explain how APE is anti education? I don't like them, just wasn't aware that this is their new thing.


Republican plan:
1. defund public schools (Hi Youngkin! How’s that budget?)
2. crap on then relentlessly to lower public opinion and overwhelm the school district (APE, etc)
3. Push for vouchers to subsidize private school for their kids





Ive never seen APE support any of these. Can you show explains? I’m truly curious. The last I heard /saw they were promoting less Tech use (which I’m for) and questioning the retake policy, which did end up being a disaster and APS changed. I know dcumers love to hate ape but I’m genuinely curious to see when ape has promoted any of this.

i remember one guy in that FB APS group would promote school choice all the time but he had no affiliation with APE. So where are you seeing this?


Voucher guy was definitely in APE


No, voucher guy made a big stink about how he was NOT APE because they don’t support school choice.
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Anonymous wrote:Chen has served on zero advisory committees and voted to approve zero minutes. We have crappy candidates apart from Kathleen, so there’s the watermark, I guess.


He’s not trying to inflate his credentials either. Since she already has all the endorsements, Zuraya should just be honest she doesn’t have much experience.


But Zuraya does have experience, she worked at Meta, the parent company of FB and Instagram.

“Meta the company that owns Facebook and Instagram has for years relied on both social media platforms to keep children and teenagers engaged for as long as possible in order to gather personal data and sell it to advertisers, a group of state prosecutors alleged in a recently unsealed complaint.

Attorneys general in 33 states filed a federal lawsuit against Meta in October, although the details at the time were not immediately released. The complaint, unsealed Wednesday, unveils more specifics, such as allegations from state prosecutors that Meta harmed young users on Facebook and Instagram through the use of highly manipulative algorithms and technological tools. that was accused by attorney generals in 33 states for creating addictive technology for youth to keep them hooked “




This is ridiculous. I’m voting for Kathleen and Chen but don’t need to drag Zuraya through the mud.

And we’re surprised no one more qualified wants to run for school board.


What did Zuraya do at Meta? She's a lobbyist right?


+1


DP, not a Zuraya fan or booster.

I’m actually okay with lobbyists running for SB. APS could use some help in that department down in Richmond rn.

And let’s not pretend that some of you Arlington parents aren’t federal/state lobbyists too. APE seems to have a lot of them spreading tears about “learning loss”


APE itself is a lobbying org now (anti-education).


Can you explain how APE is anti education? I don't like them, just wasn't aware that this is their new thing.


Republican plan:
1. defund public schools (Hi Youngkin! How’s that budget?)
2. crap on then relentlessly to lower public opinion and overwhelm the school district (APE, etc)
3. Push for vouchers to subsidize private school for their kids





Ive never seen APE support any of these. Can you show explains? I’m truly curious. The last I heard /saw they were promoting less Tech use (which I’m for) and questioning the retake policy, which did end up being a disaster and APS changed. I know dcumers love to hate ape but I’m genuinely curious to see when ape has promoted any of this.

i remember one guy in that FB APS group would promote school choice all the time but he had no affiliation with APE. So where are you seeing this?


Voucher guy was definitely in APE


No, voucher guy made a big stink about how he was NOT APE because they don’t support school choice.


Voucher guy was definitely in APE in 2020-21. There whole "big tent" encompassed school choice advocates, anti-trans activists and book banners. Just because they aren't promoting any of that now doesn't mean that once they get some actual power on the SB that these issues won't come up again from their membership.
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Anonymous wrote:Chen has served on zero advisory committees and voted to approve zero minutes. We have crappy candidates apart from Kathleen, so there’s the watermark, I guess.


He’s not trying to inflate his credentials either. Since she already has all the endorsements, Zuraya should just be honest she doesn’t have much experience.


But Zuraya does have experience, she worked at Meta, the parent company of FB and Instagram.

“Meta the company that owns Facebook and Instagram has for years relied on both social media platforms to keep children and teenagers engaged for as long as possible in order to gather personal data and sell it to advertisers, a group of state prosecutors alleged in a recently unsealed complaint.

Attorneys general in 33 states filed a federal lawsuit against Meta in October, although the details at the time were not immediately released. The complaint, unsealed Wednesday, unveils more specifics, such as allegations from state prosecutors that Meta harmed young users on Facebook and Instagram through the use of highly manipulative algorithms and technological tools. that was accused by attorney generals in 33 states for creating addictive technology for youth to keep them hooked “




This is ridiculous. I’m voting for Kathleen and Chen but don’t need to drag Zuraya through the mud.

And we’re surprised no one more qualified wants to run for school board.


What did Zuraya do at Meta? She's a lobbyist right?


+1


DP, not a Zuraya fan or booster.

I’m actually okay with lobbyists running for SB. APS could use some help in that department down in Richmond rn.

And let’s not pretend that some of you Arlington parents aren’t federal/state lobbyists too. APE seems to have a lot of them spreading tears about “learning loss”


APE itself is a lobbying org now (anti-education).


Can you explain how APE is anti education? I don't like them, just wasn't aware that this is their new thing.


Republican plan:
1. defund public schools (Hi Youngkin! How’s that budget?)
2. crap on then relentlessly to lower public opinion and overwhelm the school district (APE, etc)
3. Push for vouchers to subsidize private school for their kids





Ive never seen APE support any of these. Can you show explains? I’m truly curious. The last I heard /saw they were promoting less Tech use (which I’m for) and questioning the retake policy, which did end up being a disaster and APS changed. I know dcumers love to hate ape but I’m genuinely curious to see when ape has promoted any of this.

i remember one guy in that FB APS group would promote school choice all the time but he had no affiliation with APE. So where are you seeing this?


1. APE supports Youngkin. Where is their outrage “article” about Youngkin defunding APS?

2. This has been nonstop since covid.

3. Not overtly but all of their Republican buddies are pretty open about it. They carefully choose their positions to avoid red flags.


Not to mention that APE is now apparently for Youngkin's/his VDOEs move to change accreditation standards. The superintendents, school board associations and teachers are totally against this proposal BTW:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/04/03/virginia-school-accreditation-rankings-change/


I mean, if you want to think APE is a group of people who care about APS and public schools in general, then keep your heads buried. Most of their kids have left for private school. And the ones that stayed are making our PTAs and committees terrible places to belong.





That poster isn't naive, they are an APE defender. APE is on DCUM all the time policing all the threads. They often get posts about APE removed.


And they complain about their own "free speech" while eliminating dissent and actual concerns. Even more of a reason why APE has no business being on our school board. I will continue to raise concerns about SB candidates who engage with them. APE engages with everyone in bad faith, even anonymously.


Exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who asked for examples. I have no affiliation with APE. I will admit I have seen/read their newsletters because I’m interested in hearing all point of views before making judgements and I don’t find all they are asking for that out of line. I won’t quote exactly, because I don’t keep up that closely, so that is why I was looking for solid data on what they have done. But saying they have republican buddies and they didn’t write an article criticizing youngkin (did they write an article supporting him?) is pretty weak. This is the overall problem with APS no one is willing to have open and meaningful discussions. It’s all black and white. You are either a woke snowflake or a trumpster.


I’m all about open discussions. But that requires people engaging in good faith.

Go read their newsletters. They go deep into budget criticisms. But then have nothing to say when the governor cuts the budget?

That’s just one of many examples.
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Just got my ballot and voted for Kathleen (who is the most qualified) and Chen (who impressed me the most from the debates).

I want to say that all four of them are lovely people who care about our schools and are willing to do a thankless job for the next four years, and should be applauded. I think we're lucky to have such dedicated people running this year.

I wish though that the Democratic Party endorsement process was better and they actually made an effort to get more people to vote.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who asked for examples. I have no affiliation with APE. I will admit I have seen/read their newsletters because I’m interested in hearing all point of views before making judgements and I don’t find all they are asking for that out of line. I won’t quote exactly, because I don’t keep up that closely, so that is why I was looking for solid data on what they have done. But saying they have republican buddies and they didn’t write an article criticizing youngkin (did they write an article supporting him?) is pretty weak. This is the overall problem with APS no one is willing to have open and meaningful discussions. It’s all black and white. You are either a woke snowflake or a trumpster.


I’m all about open discussions. But that requires people engaging in good faith.

Go read their newsletters. They go deep into budget criticisms. But then have nothing to say when the governor cuts the budget?

That’s just one of many examples.


You also need to serve on an advisory committee to see their true colors. APE members make them miserable. They don't respect the staff that attends these meetings, pushing their own agenda on everyone else. Or just go off agenda to make these meetings totally unproductive. Unless you fall lockstep with their priorities, you're silenced and gaslighted. Especially if they are in a leadership position.

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