Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where in the world is Biden and? As people question his astounding silence in the face of universities under siege, a pattern is emerging. In the summer of 2020, it took months for Biden to call cities and towns being burned, stores being looted and cops being attacked “riots." A real leader would step up and stop this anarchy.

These kids are not anarchists. They are paying north of six figures for college tuition. They can camp wherever they want on campus. As long as they aren’t hurting people , they are well within their rights which is why police can’t arrest them. They aren’t trespassing on private property.

Did you just write this today? Because you seem to have missed a week's worth of news. And no, they can't camp wherever they want on campus. Nor can they commandeer a building. But apparently, these spoiled brats *can* have their student loans forgiven.

If they don’t like their schools’ policies and donor lists and spending habits, then they should transfer. Take your tens of thousands of dollars elsewhere. They all just decided now that they need their schools to
divest from Israel? What was going through their heads this time last year? Never read newspapers before?

There are plenty of schools to choose from— liberal, conservative, secular, religious, etc. what about transferring abroad, go to college in Canada. Iran’s made an offer, too.

You don’t like the movie, walk out of the theater. Stop yelling and throwing popcorn. No one’s holding you hostage, you can go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is almost 100% the Geritol crown rn.

You know, you keep frantically attempting ageist insults all over the place to desperately keep your propaganda bubble in place, but the fact is that the protestors are widely despised across all age groups. I’m no boomer, either. Just someone who sees how pathetic you are. When you have to resort to ageism to just pretend you’ve got an argument, you have nothing to stand on whatsoever.

You and your cohort have lost. You are disliked, have alienated most Americans, have managed to do nothing but drive support away from Gaza, have given the Republicans a gigantic electoral gift, and have largely managed to convince vast swaths of the electorate that you are all entitled nutcases. No amount of ageist insults can stop that truth from spreading at this point.

The side opposed to Israel’s actions and calling from an immediate ceasefire on humanitarian grounds is already starting from the high ground of having just about every other nation in the world, save the U.S., in full accord with their position. At this point, Israel and the U.S. are isolated on that front.

DP. I find it beyond bizarre that you and the people you're defending (pro-Palestinian protesters) haven't called on HAMAS to step up, return the hostages, and agree to a ceasefire. Why is that?

DP

Who says they haven’t done just that, but while we’re on the subject, it sounds like your of the mind that Israel shouldn’t be held accountable to a higher standard of conduct than a designated terrorist organization? Low bar, huh?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is Oli London, so take it with a grain of salt, but supposedly a protestor wearing the Hamas flag headband at Stanford.

When I looked up the Hanas flag, that headband imagery isn’t what I saw. So, false.

It was real enough that Stanford turned photos of it to the FBI but continue your denialism.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/02/us-news/stanford-submits-deeply-disturbing-photo-of-campus-anti-israel-protester-wearing-hamas-headband-to-fbi/amp/

I’m not saying the headband doesn’t have a meaning that’s problematic (can’t say one way or another), I’m merely saying it didn’t match what I saw when I looked up the flag.

Also, the fact of Stanford reporting it doesn’t mean anything. All that required was someone like you contacting them, doing the usual “you’re not protecting Jewish students!” hysterics, and demanding they report it to the FBI.

DP. If a student had been wearing a KKK robe or other offensive costume, you'd be the one in hysterics. The PP was simply reporting something that happened. Anyone wearing Hamas garb absolutely should be reported to the FBI.

The PP is fine with Hamas insignia. Hence the disassembling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Oli London, so take it with a grain of salt, but supposedly a protestor wearing the Hamas flag headband at Stanford.

When I looked up the Hanas flag, that headband imagery isn’t what I saw. So, false.

It was real enough that Stanford turned photos of it to the FBI but continue your denialism.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/02/us-news/stanford-submits-deeply-disturbing-photo-of-campus-anti-israel-protester-wearing-hamas-headband-to-fbi/amp/

I’m not saying the headband doesn’t have a meaning that’s problematic (can’t say one way or another), I’m merely saying it didn’t match what I saw when I looked up the flag.

Also, the fact of Stanford reporting it doesn’t mean anything. All that required was someone like you contacting them, doing the usual “you’re not protecting Jewish students!” hysterics, and demanding they report it to the FBI.

DP. If a student had been wearing a KKK robe or other offensive costume, you'd be the one in hysterics. The PP was simply reporting something that happened. Anyone wearing Hamas garb absolutely should be reported to the FBI.

The PP is fine with Hamas insignia. Hence the disassembling.

PP

That’s weird. Why did you blatantly lie? The PP actually said that they didn’t even know how to identify the Hamas flag. So why would you lie and accuse them of being fine with it? Is lying your default mode? Really mind-boggling that lying is so just so natural for so many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Oli London, so take it with a grain of salt, but supposedly a protestor wearing the Hamas flag headband at Stanford.

When I looked up the Hanas flag, that headband imagery isn’t what I saw. So, false.

It was real enough that Stanford turned photos of it to the FBI but continue your denialism.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/02/us-news/stanford-submits-deeply-disturbing-photo-of-campus-anti-israel-protester-wearing-hamas-headband-to-fbi/amp/

I’m not saying the headband doesn’t have a meaning that’s problematic (can’t say one way or another), I’m merely saying it didn’t match what I saw when I looked up the flag.

Also, the fact of Stanford reporting it doesn’t mean anything. All that required was someone like you contacting them, doing the usual “you’re not protecting Jewish students!” hysterics, and demanding they report it to the FBI.

DP. If a student had been wearing a KKK robe or other offensive costume, you'd be the one in hysterics. The PP was simply reporting something that happened. Anyone wearing Hamas garb absolutely should be reported to the FBI.

The PP is fine with Hamas insignia. Hence the disassembling.

PP

That’s weird. Why did you blatantly lie? The PP actually said that they didn’t even know how to identify the Hamas flag. So why would you lie and accuse them of being fine with it? Is lying your default mode? Really mind-boggling that lying is so just so natural for so many.

Nah. The PP is the one who first tried to pretend that wasn’t Hamas insignia, then when forced to concede the point because the FBI is now involved, scrambled to minimize it. One can reasonably assume that the PP is fine with Hamas insignia, based on her posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Oli London, so take it with a grain of salt, but supposedly a protestor wearing the Hamas flag headband at Stanford.

When I looked up the Hanas flag, that headband imagery isn’t what I saw. So, false.

It was real enough that Stanford turned photos of it to the FBI but continue your denialism.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/02/us-news/stanford-submits-deeply-disturbing-photo-of-campus-anti-israel-protester-wearing-hamas-headband-to-fbi/amp/

I’m not saying the headband doesn’t have a meaning that’s problematic (can’t say one way or another), I’m merely saying it didn’t match what I saw when I looked up the flag.

Also, the fact of Stanford reporting it doesn’t mean anything. All that required was someone like you contacting them, doing the usual “you’re not protecting Jewish students!” hysterics, and demanding they report it to the FBI.

DP. If a student had been wearing a KKK robe or other offensive costume, you'd be the one in hysterics. The PP was simply reporting something that happened. Anyone wearing Hamas garb absolutely should be reported to the FBI.

The PP is fine with Hamas insignia. Hence the disassembling.

PP

That’s weird. Why did you blatantly lie? The PP actually said that they didn’t even know how to identify the Hamas flag. So why would you lie and accuse them of being fine with it? Is lying your default mode? Really mind-boggling that lying is so just so natural for so many.

Nah. The PP is the one who first tried to pretend that wasn’t Hamas insignia, then when forced to concede the point because the FBI is now involved, scrambled to minimize it. One can reasonably assume that the PP is fine with Hamas insignia, based on her posts.

The prtoestors should have ejected this person. Makes them look awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-adults-are-still-in-charge-at-the-university-of-florida-israel-protests-tents-sasse-eca6389b?st=e19snflknkmy2rk&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Free link.

Ben Sasse - UF’s search committee has been proven correct with their hiring decision 20 times over. His selection was met with significant backlash, I hope crow is on the detractors plate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“ UVA and Virginia state police are raiding the Gaza solidarity encampment next to the Rotunda. They literally changed the bylaws, which previously permitted tents, a few hours ago. The encampment had been going quietly for several days. It seemed like they were going to do this raid last night, but they didn’t. It seemed they were relenting, or maybe giving a reprieve for the rain. (It was raining hard.) Now seems like they had to change the rules. Seems … illegal? Worth noting that this is immediately adjacent to the place the Nazi tiki torch rally happened in 2017. The police did not stage anything like this response to that one, even though the Nazis were beating and pepper spraying people.“

https://bsky.app/profile/katzonearth.bsky.social/post/3krojla2dk323

this is false. virginia state police immediately broke up the Unite the Right marchers at UVA: https://www.12onyourside.com/story/36119820/hundreds-gather-at-uva-in-response-to-judges-decision-regarding-unite-the-right-rally/

it happened during the summer and wasn’t students, so the UVA admins would have had less to do with the logistics, but I’m sure they called the police.

[Anonymous]

Another video of not funny because it’s so true. SNL last night. Alexis Vanessa Roberts.

https://x.com/nbcsnl/status/1786969830488232304?s=46

[Anonymous]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pro-palestianian-protesters-are-backed-by-a-surprising-source-biden-s-biggest-donors/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is almost 100% the Geritol crown rn.

You know, you keep frantically attempting ageist insults all over the place to desperately keep your propaganda bubble in place, but the fact is that the protestors are widely despised across all age groups. I’m no boomer, either. Just someone who sees how pathetic you are. When you have to resort to ageism to just pretend you’ve got an argument, you have nothing to stand on whatsoever.

You and your cohort have lost. You are disliked, have alienated most Americans, have managed to do nothing but drive support away from Gaza, have given the Republicans a gigantic electoral gift, and have largely managed to convince vast swaths of the electorate that you are all entitled nutcases. No amount of ageist insults can stop that truth from spreading at this point.

The side opposed to Israel’s actions and calling from an immediate ceasefire on humanitarian grounds is already starting from the high ground of having just about every other nation in the world, save the U.S., in full accord with their position. At this point, Israel and the U.S. are isolated on that front.

DP. I find it beyond bizarre that you and the people you're defending (pro-Palestinian protesters) haven't called on HAMAS to step up, return the hostages, and agree to a ceasefire. Why is that?

NP. I will tell you why I don’t call on Hamas to do anything. It’s because I simply have zero expectation that they care about what I or the American govt say. They are a terrorist organization. In fact, they may draw strength from US calls for returning hostages etc.

I still harbor hope that the Israelis are persuadable that their actions are wrong and that the lives of Palestinians in Gaza matter. And that they do not wish to continue the horrific destruction they are unleashing currently. And I would like my govt to pressure Israel with diplomacy (like they may be doing) and funding (conditioning of aide) to behave differently.

The US power structure is aligned closer with Israel than the Palestinian people (congress, the WH, the State Dept, wealthy donors). The protesters are railing (ineffectively it seems) against the power structure as they have through time. Why would you think calling on Hamas to return the hostages (which anyone of good conscience must want) would require a protest in the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is almost 100% the Geritol crown rn.

You know, you keep frantically attempting ageist insults all over the place to desperately keep your propaganda bubble in place, but the fact is that the protestors are widely despised across all age groups. I’m no boomer, either. Just someone who sees how pathetic you are. When you have to resort to ageism to just pretend you’ve got an argument, you have nothing to stand on whatsoever.

You and your cohort have lost. You are disliked, have alienated most Americans, have managed to do nothing but drive support away from Gaza, have given the Republicans a gigantic electoral gift, and have largely managed to convince vast swaths of the electorate that you are all entitled nutcases. No amount of ageist insults can stop that truth from spreading at this point.

The side opposed to Israel’s actions and calling from an immediate ceasefire on humanitarian grounds is already starting from the high ground of having just about every other nation in the world, save the U.S., in full accord with their position. At this point, Israel and the U.S. are isolated on that front.

DP. I find it beyond bizarre that you and the people you're defending (pro-Palestinian protesters) haven't called on HAMAS to step up, return the hostages, and agree to a ceasefire. Why is that?

NP. I will tell you why I don’t call on Hamas to do anything. It’s because I simply have zero expectation that they care about what I or the American govt say. They are a terrorist organization. In fact, they may draw strength from US calls for returning hostages etc.

I still harbor hope that the Israelis are persuadable that their actions are wrong and that the lives of Palestinians in Gaza matter. And that they do not wish to continue the horrific destruction they are unleashing currently. And I would like my govt to pressure Israel with diplomacy (like they may be doing) and funding (conditioning of aide) to behave differently.

The US power structure is aligned closer with Israel than the Palestinian people (congress, the WH, the State Dept, wealthy donors). The protesters are railing (ineffectively it seems) against the power structure as they have through time. Why would you think calling on Hamas to return the hostages (which anyone of good conscience must want) would require a protest in the US?

The protests are directly organized by people with connections to Palestine. They absolutely could call for Hamas to lay down their weapons and return the hostages, and work on a 2-state solution. But they affirmatively praise “resistance” and call for “from the river to the sea.” what you don’t get is that this is VERY much expressly pro-Palestine winning the war, not pro-peace.

[Anonymous]

Great moments in history!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another video of not funny because it’s so true. SNL last night. Alexis Vanessa Roberts.

https://x.com/nbcsnl/status/1786969830488232304?s=46

This was surprisingly good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is almost 100% the Geritol crown rn.

You know, you keep frantically attempting ageist insults all over the place to desperately keep your propaganda bubble in place, but the fact is that the protestors are widely despised across all age groups. I’m no boomer, either. Just someone who sees how pathetic you are. When you have to resort to ageism to just pretend you’ve got an argument, you have nothing to stand on whatsoever.

You and your cohort have lost. You are disliked, have alienated most Americans, have managed to do nothing but drive support away from Gaza, have given the Republicans a gigantic electoral gift, and have largely managed to convince vast swaths of the electorate that you are all entitled nutcases. No amount of ageist insults can stop that truth from spreading at this point.

The side opposed to Israel’s actions and calling from an immediate ceasefire on humanitarian grounds is already starting from the high ground of having just about every other nation in the world, save the U.S., in full accord with their position. At this point, Israel and the U.S. are isolated on that front.

DP. I find it beyond bizarre that you and the people you're defending (pro-Palestinian protesters) haven't called on HAMAS to step up, return the hostages, and agree to a ceasefire. Why is that?

NP. I will tell you why I don’t call on Hamas to do anything. It’s because I simply have zero expectation that they care about what I or the American govt say. They are a terrorist organization. In fact, they may draw strength from US calls for returning hostages etc.

I still harbor hope that the Israelis are persuadable that their actions are wrong and that the lives of Palestinians in Gaza matter. And that they do not wish to continue the horrific destruction they are unleashing currently. And I would like my govt to pressure Israel with diplomacy (like they may be doing) and funding (conditioning of aide) to behave differently.

The US power structure is aligned closer with Israel than the Palestinian people (congress, the WH, the State Dept, wealthy donors). The protesters are railing (ineffectively it seems) against the power structure as they have through time. Why would you think calling on Hamas to return the hostages (which anyone of good conscience must want) would require a protest in the US?

The protests are directly organized by people with connections to Palestine. They absolutely could call for Hamas to lay down their weapons and return the hostages, and work on a 2-state solution. But they affirmatively praise “resistance” and call for “from the river to the sea.” what you don’t get is that this is VERY much expressly pro-Palestine winning the war, not pro-peace.

Were pre 10/7 protests against Hamas effective in Gaza? Again, Hamas (or any terrorist organization) is not persuadable by protests in the US in ways that a democratically elected govt with close ties to the US may reasonably be expected to.

For Hamas to lose the de facto support of the Palestinian people would require that 1. The Palestinians believe that they can get their voices heard without the bomb throwers and 2. It becomes worse for a family or individual to support Hamas than not.
Neither of those two conditions are true right now. And it is the way that the troubles in Ireland quieted down.