AOS AET admissions decisions this week?

[Anonymous]

Even in AOL few kids getting into the program under equity/ diversity and Not complete merit based

[Anonymous]

Do they consider stem score as well as essay score for both AOS and AET? Or only stem score for AET and only essay score for AOS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even in AOL few kids getting into the program under equity/ diversity and Not complete merit based

Of course, the MATA program under AOL umbrella helps get a politically acceptable equity/diversity picture, which means less motivation to replace the somewhat merit criteria for AOS/AET, with an all out essay lottery like TJ's. No one knows the specific details of how the final pool for AOS/AET is ranked, but it is likely equity factors are baked into it as well. Keeping the cut-off at Geometry and significant number of Algebra 2 applicants might be giving the selection committee a substantial merit based final pool to work with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This year - everyone chose AET as first option. Heard few AOS folks getting off waitlist but no one from AET.

Majority of folks who got into TJ from loudoun were not accepted into AOL. no chances on this front after April 26th ( TJ deadline)

Unlike the random lottery offers at TJ, AET & AOL implement a higher merit-based admission criteria intertwined with STEM tests, going beyond GPAs and incorporating advanced math for all admissions. Also, the Academies have access to comprehensive applicant data, including detailed transcripts, SOLs, and elementary and middle school math/reading assessments, since all applicants are existing LCPS students.

Most significantly, nearly all AET and AOL admits have completed Geometry or Algebra 2/Trig, which is where both AOS and AET Integrated Math 1 begins. While there may be a nominal mention of lower math in admissions criteria, the AOS & AET curriculum commences with Algebra 2. In the Academies math progression there's no lower-level math, akin to TJ's Math 1 & Math 2.

If an Academies applicant receives a TJ offer but not an AOL/AET offer, it's for one of two reasons: either through the random chance of the TJ lottery, which disregards student merit, or because they are from one of the competitive middle schools but aren't among the top ten students.

AOS/AET curriculum is not nearly as rigorous or comprehensive as TJ curriculum, but their admissions criteria is much more stringent than that of TJ's essay lottery process.

In my opinion - It is not a true statement that AOS/AET has more rigorous merit based admission criteria - TJ has been ranked and voted as most rigorous by the students . The real issue with TJ is that they are trying to be politically correct by bringing in diversity factor - which in my opinion is hurting a section of population(read Asian Americans )more than anyone...

TJ Acceptance for asian fell to 50% - So if any Asian kid gets into TJ with this dip in acceptance than they are genuinely worthy to it.

AOS/AET have a selection system which i feel is more unjustified where each school gets a qouta for admissions...there have been schools where top 50 kids do not get admission to AOS AET but only few folks get in due to the lottery and no clear indication as to what carries more impact in teheir 5 criterias of acceptance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This year - everyone chose AET as first option. Heard few AOS folks getting off waitlist but no one from AET.

Majority of folks who got into TJ from loudoun were not accepted into AOL. no chances on this front after April 26th ( TJ deadline)

Unlike the random lottery offers at TJ, AET & AOL implement a higher merit-based admission criteria intertwined with STEM tests, going beyond GPAs and incorporating advanced math for all admissions. Also, the Academies have access to comprehensive applicant data, including detailed transcripts, SOLs, and elementary and middle school math/reading assessments, since all applicants are existing LCPS students.

Most significantly, nearly all AET and AOL admits have completed Geometry or Algebra 2/Trig, which is where both AOS and AET Integrated Math 1 begins. While there may be a nominal mention of lower math in admissions criteria, the AOS & AET curriculum commences with Algebra 2. In the Academies math progression there's no lower-level math, akin to TJ's Math 1 & Math 2.

If an Academies applicant receives a TJ offer but not an AOL/AET offer, it's for one of two reasons: either through the random chance of the TJ lottery, which disregards student merit, or because they are from one of the competitive middle schools but aren't among the top ten students.

AOS/AET curriculum is not nearly as rigorous or comprehensive as TJ curriculum, but their admissions criteria is much more stringent than that of TJ's essay lottery process.

In my opinion - It is not a true statement that AOS/AET has more rigorous merit based admission criteria - TJ has been ranked and voted as most rigorous by the students . The real issue with TJ is that they are trying to be politically correct by bringing in diversity factor - which in my opinion is hurting a section of population(read Asian Americans )more than anyone...

TJ Acceptance for asian fell to 50% - So if any Asian kid gets into TJ with this dip in acceptance than they are genuinely worthy to it.

AOS/AET have a selection system which i feel is more unjustified where each school gets a qouta for admissions...there have been schools where top 50 kids do not get admission to AOS AET but only few folks get in due to the lottery and no clear indication as to what carries more impact in teheir 5 criterias of acceptance

The only criteria that's keeping AOS/AET school quota selection somewhat merit based is they are not selecting applicants below Geometry.

With TJ admissoins, how can they practically distinguish which Asian applicant is more qualified than others, without a merit-based assessment? How did they arrive at the selection of 315 students out of approximately 1500 Asian applicants for the 2028 class? With the exception of a couple of hundred Algebra 2 applicants, the remaining 1300 Asian applicants would be nearly identical, all with an inflated 4.0 GPA, Geometry, and honors science. The simplistic essay isn't capable of distinguishing who among the 1500 asian applicants is more proficient or truly capable of handling the rigor of TJ. It's a lottery based selection, not all Asian students are of equal high caliber. The only saving grace for Asians is they are entering TJ with years of math preparation and stem interest.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone heard of wait list moving ? I have hardly heard of anything from my DS school .

[Anonymous]

I haven’t heard anything yet from our MS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This year - everyone chose AET as first option. Heard few AOS folks getting off waitlist but no one from AET.

Majority of folks who got into TJ from loudoun were not accepted into AOL. no chances on this front after April 26th ( TJ deadline)

Unlike the random lottery offers at TJ, AET & AOL implement a higher merit-based admission criteria intertwined with STEM tests, going beyond GPAs and incorporating advanced math for all admissions. Also, the Academies have access to comprehensive applicant data, including detailed transcripts, SOLs, and elementary and middle school math/reading assessments, since all applicants are existing LCPS students.

Most significantly, nearly all AET and AOL admits have completed Geometry or Algebra 2/Trig, which is where both AOS and AET Integrated Math 1 begins. While there may be a nominal mention of lower math in admissions criteria, the AOS & AET curriculum commences with Algebra 2. In the Academies math progression there's no lower-level math, akin to TJ's Math 1 & Math 2.

If an Academies applicant receives a TJ offer but not an AOL/AET offer, it's for one of two reasons: either through the random chance of the TJ lottery, which disregards student merit, or because they are from one of the competitive middle schools but aren't among the top ten students.

AOS/AET curriculum is not nearly as rigorous or comprehensive as TJ curriculum, but their admissions criteria is much more stringent than that of TJ's essay lottery process.

In my opinion - It is not a true statement that AOS/AET has more rigorous merit based admission criteria - TJ has been ranked and voted as most rigorous by the students . The real issue with TJ is that they are trying to be politically correct by bringing in diversity factor - which in my opinion is hurting a section of population(read Asian Americans )more than anyone...

TJ Acceptance for asian fell to 50% - So if any Asian kid gets into TJ with this dip in acceptance than they are genuinely worthy to it.

AOS/AET have a selection system which i feel is more unjustified where each school gets a qouta for admissions...there have been schools where top 50 kids do not get admission to AOS AET but only few folks get in due to the lottery and no clear indication as to what carries more impact in teheir 5 criterias of acceptance

The only criteria that's keeping AOS/AET school quota selection somewhat merit based is they are not selecting applicants below Geometry.

With TJ admissoins, how can they practically distinguish which Asian applicant is more qualified than others, without a merit-based assessment? How did they arrive at the selection of 315 students out of approximately 1500 Asian applicants for the 2028 class? With the exception of a couple of hundred Algebra 2 applicants, the remaining 1300 Asian applicants would be nearly identical, all with an inflated 4.0 GPA, Geometry, and honors science. The simplistic essay isn't capable of distinguishing who among the 1500 asian applicants is more proficient or truly capable of handling the rigor of TJ. It's a lottery based selection, not all Asian students are of equal high caliber. The only saving grace for Asians is they are entering TJ with years of math preparation and stem interest.

You make it sound as essay should not be included in TJ test 😂

This year’s TJ test’s Quant section had a tough math question with a specific answer unlike 2020 or last year - where you get away with not answering it but weaving a story

One thing is for sure Nor AOS/AEt or TJ no longer have credibility of screening correctly for” gifted “kids( I personally believe in such thing as gifted or non gifted )

Only one benefiting out of all this are the various training / coaching centers ..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This year - everyone chose AET as first option. Heard few AOS folks getting off waitlist but no one from AET.

Majority of folks who got into TJ from loudoun were not accepted into AOL. no chances on this front after April 26th ( TJ deadline)

Unlike the random lottery offers at TJ, AET & AOL implement a higher merit-based admission criteria intertwined with STEM tests, going beyond GPAs and incorporating advanced math for all admissions. Also, the Academies have access to comprehensive applicant data, including detailed transcripts, SOLs, and elementary and middle school math/reading assessments, since all applicants are existing LCPS students.

Most significantly, nearly all AET and AOL admits have completed Geometry or Algebra 2/Trig, which is where both AOS and AET Integrated Math 1 begins. While there may be a nominal mention of lower math in admissions criteria, the AOS & AET curriculum commences with Algebra 2. In the Academies math progression there's no lower-level math, akin to TJ's Math 1 & Math 2.

If an Academies applicant receives a TJ offer but not an AOL/AET offer, it's for one of two reasons: either through the random chance of the TJ lottery, which disregards student merit, or because they are from one of the competitive middle schools but aren't among the top ten students.

AOS/AET curriculum is not nearly as rigorous or comprehensive as TJ curriculum, but their admissions criteria is much more stringent than that of TJ's essay lottery process.

In my opinion - It is not a true statement that AOS/AET has more rigorous merit based admission criteria - TJ has been ranked and voted as most rigorous by the students . The real issue with TJ is that they are trying to be politically correct by bringing in diversity factor - which in my opinion is hurting a section of population(read Asian Americans )more than anyone...

TJ Acceptance for asian fell to 50% - So if any Asian kid gets into TJ with this dip in acceptance than they are genuinely worthy to it.

AOS/AET have a selection system which i feel is more unjustified where each school gets a qouta for admissions...there have been schools where top 50 kids do not get admission to AOS AET but only few folks get in due to the lottery and no clear indication as to what carries more impact in teheir 5 criterias of acceptance

The only criteria that's keeping AOS/AET school quota selection somewhat merit based is they are not selecting applicants below Geometry.

With TJ admissoins, how can they practically distinguish which Asian applicant is more qualified than others, without a merit-based assessment? How did they arrive at the selection of 315 students out of approximately 1500 Asian applicants for the 2028 class? With the exception of a couple of hundred Algebra 2 applicants, the remaining 1300 Asian applicants would be nearly identical, all with an inflated 4.0 GPA, Geometry, and honors science. The simplistic essay isn't capable of distinguishing who among the 1500 asian applicants is more proficient or truly capable of handling the rigor of TJ. It's a lottery based selection, not all Asian students are of equal high caliber. The only saving grace for Asians is they are entering TJ with years of math preparation and stem interest.

You make it sound as essay should not be included in TJ test 😂

This year’s TJ test’s Quant section had a tough math question with a specific answer unlike 2020 or last year - where you get away with not answering it but weaving a story

One thing is for sure Nor AOS/AEt or TJ no longer have credibility of screening correctly for” gifted “kids( I personally believe in such thing as gifted or non gifted )

Only one benefiting out of all this are the various training / coaching centers ..

* correction - I do not believe in gifted or non gifted terms

[Anonymous]

One of my friends child got STEM score 284 but she is waitlisted in AET and rejected for AOS. Kids got accepted with lower scores from the same MS. What could be the reason?

[Anonymous]

I am barely hearing the wait list moving . Is there still any hope of waiting list moving forward as folks who have gotten TJ might have accepted already , Friday being the deadline

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am barely hearing the wait list moving . Is there still any hope of waiting list moving forward as folks who have gotten TJ might have accepted already , Friday being the deadline

Friday is the deadline. Most decliners would take their time since it is an irreversible decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of my friends child got STEM score 284 but she is waitlisted in AET and rejected for AOS. Kids got accepted with lower scores from the same MS. What could be the reason?

My waitlisted, now accepted DD had 284. It's all lottery, but rejected from AOS is weird. Maybe she didn't answer the essay question correctly or had too low scores in the science part of the test?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This year - everyone chose AET as first option. Heard few AOS folks getting off waitlist but no one from AET.

Algebra 2/Trig, which is where both AOS and AET Integrated Math 1 begins. While there may be a nominal mention of lower math in admissions criteria, the AOS & AET curriculum commences with Algebra 2. In the Academies math progression there's no lower-level math, akin to TJ's Math 1 & Math 2.

Every freshman takes the same class, but it doesn't start at algebra 2. They cover a lot of earlier topics, including slope.

[Anonymous]

Unlike TJ, AOS/AET has a maximum quota per school, hurting chances for kids at top schools- Brambleton, Stone Hill, Eagle Ridge, Willard. Nevertheless, the top students are more likely to get accepted to AET/AOS. Almost the entire MathCounts team got accepted.