2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

I don't know a ton about Pride 23- was that team in the top bracket at those tournaments? I would imagine no if it was the club's first real try at keeping a team together for high school. There are a ton of teams at the top tournaments now so just being there would not help if you are not in the top 1-2 brackets and coaches won't go looking very far.

Yes, Pride 23 was a top ten team in ninth grade playing in the top tournament brackets.

[Anonymous]

How is it this thread is so active and BOTC is dead? Even on the subject of MD teams this is a far more interesting read.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

Somebody please educate me on what happened to this Pride 23 team? Did it fall apart? The girls didn't get recruited?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

My understanding is that the recruiting director, their relationships, and club reputation have as much to do with successful placement of the full roster, as just getting into top brackets Top players will get seen if they are in the top brackets, but it's the 5-20 that need that advocacy and connections, right?

So I agree with posters suggesting Coppermine has a better shot to break through than Crush. Coppermine's gravitational pull, with several of the top players in the country, 3 year track record, and ranking give them a strong shot, but if I was a parent there, I would be very focused on who the recruiting director is and what their bona fides are if my DD wasn't one of the top 5 players or a starter.

Crush is an interesting case. They are absolutely playing in the top brackets, are a legit top 5-10 team, and could make a strong case for themselves with the high school tourneys like President's Cup. On the recruiting side, the coach is a top 10 D3 coach, and lax is a small world, but yes, agree that it's unproven and a question mark. They do seem to be a close knit group, but I realize it's everyone for themselves come recruiting time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is it this thread is so active and BOTC is dead? Even on the subject of MD teams this is a far more interesting read.

BOTC is fully moderated and there is a major delay in getting a post approved. It’s hard to get anything going with potentially hours between a post and any replies. This format just works better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

Somebody please educate me on what happened to this Pride 23 team? Did it fall apart? The girls didn't get recruited?

Team held together, performed well. Recruiting results were well below expectations, with fewer than 10 commits and a lack of top program placements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

My understanding is that the recruiting director, their relationships, and club reputation have as much to do with successful placement of the full roster, as just getting into top brackets Top players will get seen if they are in the top brackets, but it's the 5-20 that need that advocacy and connections, right?

So I agree with posters suggesting Coppermine has a better shot to break through than Crush. Coppermine's gravitational pull, with several of the top players in the country, 3 year track record, and ranking give them a strong shot, but if I was a parent there, I would be very focused on who the recruiting director is and what their bona fides are if my DD wasn't one of the top 5 players or a starter.

Crush is an interesting case. They are absolutely playing in the top brackets, are a legit top 5-10 team, and could make a strong case for themselves with the high school tourneys like President's Cup. On the recruiting side, the coach is a top 10 D3 coach, and lax is a small world, but yes, agree that it's unproven and a question mark. They do seem to be a close knit group, but I realize it's everyone for themselves come recruiting time.

How does this work for the top clubs "B" teams like M&D Red or Heros White? They have the same recruiting director as the A teams. Would a girl have a better chance of being recruited there than playing for a top team but no recruiting history?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

My understanding is that the recruiting director, their relationships, and club reputation have as much to do with successful placement of the full roster, as just getting into top brackets Top players will get seen if they are in the top brackets, but it's the 5-20 that need that advocacy and connections, right?

So I agree with posters suggesting Coppermine has a better shot to break through than Crush. Coppermine's gravitational pull, with several of the top players in the country, 3 year track record, and ranking give them a strong shot, but if I was a parent there, I would be very focused on who the recruiting director is and what their bona fides are if my DD wasn't one of the top 5 players or a starter.

Crush is an interesting case. They are absolutely playing in the top brackets, are a legit top 5-10 team, and could make a strong case for themselves with the high school tourneys like President's Cup. On the recruiting side, the coach is a top 10 D3 coach, and lax is a small world, but yes, agree that it's unproven and a question mark. They do seem to be a close knit group, but I realize it's everyone for themselves come recruiting time.

The top 5 Coppermine players actually have the most to lose by putting their trust in a club with weak recruiting history. Wrong to assume a team’s record is enough to attract top D1 attention. If Coppermine doesn’t have a recruiting director with a strong network it’s better to go with a club where those relationships are intact. Players need to decide soon as summer tryouts will determine where these kids will play when recruiting season kicks in during fall 2025.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

My understanding is that the recruiting director, their relationships, and club reputation have as much to do with successful placement of the full roster, as just getting into top brackets Top players will get seen if they are in the top brackets, but it's the 5-20 that need that advocacy and connections, right?

So I agree with posters suggesting Coppermine has a better shot to break through than Crush. Coppermine's gravitational pull, with several of the top players in the country, 3 year track record, and ranking give them a strong shot, but if I was a parent there, I would be very focused on who the recruiting director is and what their bona fides are if my DD wasn't one of the top 5 players or a starter.

Crush is an interesting case. They are absolutely playing in the top brackets, are a legit top 5-10 team, and could make a strong case for themselves with the high school tourneys like President's Cup. On the recruiting side, the coach is a top 10 D3 coach, and lax is a small world, but yes, agree that it's unproven and a question mark. They do seem to be a close knit group, but I realize it's everyone for themselves come recruiting time.

The top 5 Coppermine players actually have the most to lose by putting their trust in a club with weak recruiting history. Wrong to assume a team’s record is enough to attract top D1 attention. If Coppermine doesn’t have a recruiting director with a strong network it’s better to go with a club where those relationships are intact. Players need to decide soon as summer tryouts will determine where these kids will play when recruiting season kicks in during fall 2025.

Isn’t it the Fall of 2026 that recruiting starts for Class of 2028?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

My understanding is that the recruiting director, their relationships, and club reputation have as much to do with successful placement of the full roster, as just getting into top brackets Top players will get seen if they are in the top brackets, but it's the 5-20 that need that advocacy and connections, right?

So I agree with posters suggesting Coppermine has a better shot to break through than Crush. Coppermine's gravitational pull, with several of the top players in the country, 3 year track record, and ranking give them a strong shot, but if I was a parent there, I would be very focused on who the recruiting director is and what their bona fides are if my DD wasn't one of the top 5 players or a starter.

Crush is an interesting case. They are absolutely playing in the top brackets, are a legit top 5-10 team, and could make a strong case for themselves with the high school tourneys like President's Cup. On the recruiting side, the coach is a top 10 D3 coach, and lax is a small world, but yes, agree that it's unproven and a question mark. They do seem to be a close knit group, but I realize it's everyone for themselves come recruiting time.

How does this work for the top clubs "B" teams like M&D Red or Heros White? They have the same recruiting director as the A teams. Would a girl have a better chance of being recruited there than playing for a top team but no recruiting history?

I am not sure what top club you have a realistic shot of making if you are currently on a B team. If you are in driving distance to Capital, that might be the best option because there are more spots up for grabs. If you are the best player on M&D Red or Heros white you might have a shot at making a top team, but it may come at a cost of playing time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.

Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.

This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.

My understanding is that the recruiting director, their relationships, and club reputation have as much to do with successful placement of the full roster, as just getting into top brackets Top players will get seen if they are in the top brackets, but it's the 5-20 that need that advocacy and connections, right?

So I agree with posters suggesting Coppermine has a better shot to break through than Crush. Coppermine's gravitational pull, with several of the top players in the country, 3 year track record, and ranking give them a strong shot, but if I was a parent there, I would be very focused on who the recruiting director is and what their bona fides are if my DD wasn't one of the top 5 players or a starter.

Crush is an interesting case. They are absolutely playing in the top brackets, are a legit top 5-10 team, and could make a strong case for themselves with the high school tourneys like President's Cup. On the recruiting side, the coach is a top 10 D3 coach, and lax is a small world, but yes, agree that it's unproven and a question mark. They do seem to be a close knit group, but I realize it's everyone for themselves come recruiting time.

The top 5 Coppermine players actually have the most to lose by putting their trust in a club with weak recruiting history. Wrong to assume a team’s record is enough to attract top D1 attention. If Coppermine doesn’t have a recruiting director with a strong network it’s better to go with a club where those relationships are intact. Players need to decide soon as summer tryouts will determine where these kids will play when recruiting season kicks in during fall 2025.

Isn’t it the Fall of 2026 that recruiting starts for Class of 2028?

Was referring to the time when 28 players need to start thinking about college camps and performing well to generate coach interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If my kid was on Coppermine and had the opportunity to join SW Hero’s or M&D I’d do it in a heartbeat. You never want to be part of a test case.

The earlier questions were about Coppermine vs SW. Heros and M&D are unquestionably better for recruiting for the foreseeable future and if those are options for your daughter and she wants to make the move, she should go. However, SW has already taken a back seat to Coppermine. This is already baked into the cake, and no matter how many SW parents protest, they're now the 4th best club in the Baltimore area. The Baltimore crowd knows this already. It's apparently taking the DC crowd some time to get up to speed. There are worse things than being 4th in that region.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid was on Coppermine and had the opportunity to join SW Hero’s or M&D I’d do it in a heartbeat. You never want to be part of a test case.

The earlier questions were about Coppermine vs SW. Heros and M&D are unquestionably better for recruiting for the foreseeable future and if those are options for your daughter and she wants to make the move, she should go. However, SW has already taken a back seat to Coppermine. This is already baked into the cake, and no matter how many SW parents protest, they're now the 4th best club in the Baltimore area. The Baltimore crowd knows this already. It's apparently taking the DC crowd some time to get up to speed. There are worse things than being 4th in that region.

Except SW is ranked 9 in the country, sends kids to great D1 schools, and has years of recruiting performance under its belt. SW has the relationships. Top D1 coaches know the club and trust them. I'd go there before I'd risk it all on the unknown because the players, parents and club owners want the Coppermine 28s to stay together. Pride 23 did this exact thing and some really great players wound up at some rather mediocre programs.

[Anonymous]

You make it seem as if SW is ranked in the 40s. SW is in the top ten. The top 3-5 players at any of the top four MD clubs are basically equal when it comes to talent. And they will all be vying for the same schools. Where they will go will depend on what club has the most juice with coaches, not which team has the best record.

[Anonymous]

I hate to break it to you but college coaches are not looking at 2028s. They will be focusing on 2026s this summer and next Fall. Some of the top 2026 players went to winter camps this year and got no attention.