Fairfax County School Board Votes to Teach 7th Graders about 'Gender Identy'

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Anonymous wrote:So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

I do not expect my kids to say anything. That is my job, as their parent.

My child will say that transgender is a mental disorder and that she's sorry the school system thinks it can indoctrinate kids with non-science based propaganda. This will be in response to any proclamation by the teacher that transgender is normal and should be accepted as such. Teachers come up empty handed when people ask them directly for their proof that transgender is normal and they're going to catch hell when they "go there". The science supports that a penis is, in fact, an appendage as strongly attached the to the male of the species as his arms and legs. You can say, I don't feel the penis is real all day long. And there it is, in it's full (and oftentimes hard- LOL!) glory. You can chop it as so many mentally ill men have, and guess what they have phantom penis sensations. The simple fact is you cannot get rid of the penis. A man is going to always be a man. And my daughter is going to acknowledge that very basic truth if the teacher is stupid enough to call on her in class. A public school system simply will not indoctinate and poison our kids. They won't stand for it themselves.

Your daughter won't even be there to hear the lesson. Stop being so dramatic. I'm sure she'd be mortified if she knew her mother was online writing rhapsodies about erect penises.

NP. It doesn't matter if it's MY daughter, YOUR daughter or Joe Schmo's daughter. Someone's children will be forced to listen to this nonsense, in FCPS and, increasingly, in schools across the country. I am concerned about all of it.

Maybe private school would be best for your kids. I'm happy the schools will be teaching this subject because maybe kids will learn to be more tolerant of differences. Thankfully the ship has sailed.

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If they are going to teach trans 101 are they going to teach the full range of mental disorders? Why even go there my kid is here for math, science, English and history not psychiatry, they can learn that in college. Is there a trans or gay section in the sols or sats?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy this is causing you so much anxiety. Really happy. I know it's wrong, but the idea that you are blowing your top over this is making me smile.

Who said this is causing anxiety? Thankfully, we can well afford private schools for our kids. And here you are, right here with us, following every post of this discussion!

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http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria


Notice that WebMD has put this entry under its "Mental Health Center." Gender dysphoria is referred to as a "diagnosis," with "treatment." It would not be so categorized if it were considered within the range of mental well-being.

This. Any any psychiatrist willing to go on the record has supported that trans is mental illness. The LGBT machine has become so powerful that psychiatrists, psychologist and nurse practitioners are being bullied to keep his/her mouth shut. What a terrible precident. I agree that the trans kids will be the ones to suffer. They won't be treated properly and will be ostracized by other students who are upset and the weird attempt by the government to indoctrinate. It's going to get ugly.

Don't forget that the plastic surgeons and drugmakers stand to make big money from trans. They are bullying the mental-health professionals, too.

This! This! This! As a PMHNP (psych NP), we've been told to stand down when transgender patients come to us. It's really gut-wrenching. But, we're all afraid of litigation or losing our licenses. It's been an accepted fact that transgender is a form of dysmorphia and is best suited to treatment. It wasn't until the LGBT community gained enough momentum and dollar bills that suddenly we were forced to turn a blind eye. It's horrific, but true. My practice will literally not see any patient who comes in with the trans label. There's too much red-tape, etc... for it to be worth it to us to get involved. I'll just see other patients who need me. It's as simple as that. Mind you, this is a disservice to transgender people, but we the the mental health community will not sign up to be slaughtered by pop culture, a litigious society and martydom. Trans people better figure out who's actually in their corner. Their security in people who claim to be out for them will be their downfall.

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http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria

Notice that WebMD has put this entry under its "Mental Health Center." Gender dysphoria is referred to as a "diagnosis," with "treatment." It would not be so categorized if it were considered within the range of mental well-being.

Did you read the item? Obviously not.

Gender dysphoria used to be called “gender identity disorder.” But the mismatch between body and internal sense of gender is not a mental illness. Instead, what need to be addressed are the stress, anxiety, and depression that go along with it.

This new revelation is absolutely due to political pressure and is not based empirically AT ALL. Start pointing out clinicians who agree with this. We'll just wait while you do. I happen to be one and am shocked at the travesty of this fake medicine. But stranger things have happened. I believe this too shall pass. Physicians and other health professionals who've had our hands tied behind our backs in favor of a dangerous agenda will lie in wait. I think the people will be our salvation. There's no way classrooms of children with common sense are going to tolerate what they know to be illigitimate. They're going to fight back. Then the curriculum changes will be dropped.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria

Notice that WebMD has put this entry under its "Mental Health Center." Gender dysphoria is referred to as a "diagnosis," with "treatment." It would not be so categorized if it were considered within the range of mental well-being.

Did you read the item? Obviously not.

Gender dysphoria used to be called “gender identity disorder.” But the mismatch between body and internal sense of gender is not a mental illness. Instead, what need to be addressed are the stress, anxiety, and depression that go along with it.

This new revelation is absolutely due to political pressure and is not based empirically AT ALL. Start pointing out clinicians who agree with this. We'll just wait while you do. I happen to be one and am shocked at the travesty of this fake medicine. But stranger things have happened. I believe this too shall pass. Physicians and other health professionals who've had our hands tied behind our backs in favor of a dangerous agenda will lie in wait. I think the people will be our salvation. There's no way classrooms of children with common sense are going to tolerate what they know to be illigitimate. They're going to fight back. Then the curriculum changes will be dropped.

From your keyboard to God's ears, we can only hope so. But I fear that it all may be too entrenched and emboldened now, to turn around.

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What's ironic is that people claiming to be advocates for transgender men/woman are actually the forces preventing treatment and help for them. It's just bizarre. People who believe that treatment should be rendered and would not accept the false doctrine that transgender is within the realm of normal are labeled as bigots. Actually the bigots and false advocates are those claiming to be pro-trans. How can you call yourself an advocate and deny people treatment they desperately need. This is the definition of cruel. Kind of like a pedophile who's also a pediatrician. In this case, it's transgender and their so-called advocates.

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Anonymous wrote:What's ironic is that people claiming to be advocates for transgender men/woman are actually the forces preventing treatment and help for them. It's just bizarre. People who believe that treatment should be rendered and would not accept the false doctrine that transgender is within the realm of normal are labeled as bigots. Actually the bigots and false advocates are those claiming to be pro-trans. How can you call yourself an advocate and deny people treatment they desperately need. This is the definition of cruel. Kind of like a pedophile who's also a pediatrician. In this case, it's transgender and their so-called advocates.

Remember, someone had to convince the Jews that Hitler wasn't too bad of a guy. So, they stayed in Nazi Europe. And the rest is history. It does repeat itself doesn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:What's ironic is that people claiming to be advocates for transgender men/woman are actually the forces preventing treatment and help for them. It's just bizarre. People who believe that treatment should be rendered and would not accept the false doctrine that transgender is within the realm of normal are labeled as bigots. Actually the bigots and false advocates are those claiming to be pro-trans. How can you call yourself an advocate and deny people treatment they desperately need. This is the definition of cruel. Kind of like a pedophile who's also a pediatrician. In this case, it's transgender and their so-called advocates.

Remember, someone had to convince the Jews that Hitler wasn't too bad of a guy. So, they stayed in Nazi Europe. And the rest is history. It does repeat itself doesn't it?

So if you treat someone for body dis-morphia you are creating genocide on the transgender community?

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Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.

I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.

Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.

Signed,
A Liberal Christian

I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.

PP here. I really don't know why you would doubt my identity unless you don't believe there are such things as liberal Christians, which is just ill-informed. I'm a 50 year old mother and lifelong Presbyterian, fwiw. I believe you've missed my point entirely though if you can't get past "science, as we have an know it..." That was my point. There is still a lot we don't know. There are genetic quirks that happen in the womb from time to time (e.g. hermaphrodites). Is it rare? Yes. Is it something we don't fully understand? Yes. Am I willing to categorize it as a mental illness and something that we should teach our children is a mental illness? Absolutely not.

in your world there is no mental illness. Just quirks. And that's okay. There will always be people like yourself- those who claim to be Christian, but professing anti-Christian beliefs. My child has been thoroughly educated on this and to not accept someone calling him or herself as Christian as fact that he/she actually is. Actions speak louder than words and always will. That said, I disagree that we don't have mental illness. I believe we do. And my expectation is that children, the most vulnerable among us, will not be taught untruths, which will cause them confusion and distress. If a schizophrenic person presents and insists upon the validity of the voices in his/her head, I would not accept my child being told the voices are real because a person "feels" they are. This is utter nonsense. Feelings don't trump biology. A male penis and scrotum and XY chromosomes are present in men. You're feelings that they don't is so goofy and weird, it's beyond ridiculous. My question is how did we ever get to this point. Very scary- the slippery slope we're treading on. Next kids will be taught that heterosexual sex is abnormal and that males who are aroused by the sight of the female species have a disorder. And a liberal person will say, well sure. Remember, everything is relative. There's nothing really normal.

Your spiritual arrogance is breathtaking. Please someone point out again how it is the liberals who are the most intolerant! I'm guessing that you are someone who likes to complain that Christians are discriminated against too, huh?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.

I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.

Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.

Signed,
A Liberal Christian

I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.

PP here. I really don't know why you would doubt my identity unless you don't believe there are such things as liberal Christians, which is just ill-informed. I'm a 50 year old mother and lifelong Presbyterian, fwiw. I believe you've missed my point entirely though if you can't get past "science, as we have an know it..." That was my point. There is still a lot we don't know. There are genetic quirks that happen in the womb from time to time (e.g. hermaphrodites). Is it rare? Yes. Is it something we don't fully understand? Yes. Am I willing to categorize it as a mental illness and something that we should teach our children is a mental illness? Absolutely not.

in your world there is no mental illness. Just quirks. And that's okay. There will always be people like yourself- those who claim to be Christian, but professing anti-Christian beliefs. My child has been thoroughly educated on this and to not accept someone calling him or herself as Christian as fact that he/she actually is. Actions speak louder than words and always will. That said, I disagree that we don't have mental illness. I believe we do. And my expectation is that children, the most vulnerable among us, will not be taught untruths, which will cause them confusion and distress. If a schizophrenic person presents and insists upon the validity of the voices in his/her head, I would not accept my child being told the voices are real because a person "feels" they are. This is utter nonsense. Feelings don't trump biology. A male penis and scrotum and XY chromosomes are present in men. You're feelings that they don't is so goofy and weird, it's beyond ridiculous. My question is how did we ever get to this point. Very scary- the slippery slope we're treading on. Next kids will be taught that heterosexual sex is abnormal and that males who are aroused by the sight of the female species have a disorder. And a liberal person will say, well sure. Remember, everything is relative. There's nothing really normal.

Your spiritual arrogance is breathtaking. Please someone point out again how it is the liberals who are the most intolerant! I'm guessing that you are someone who likes to complain that Christians are discriminated against too, huh?

The devil is among us. You are evidence of that. You can't just have the label and not the behaviour to follow. But, again you're a devil. What other kind of behaviour would we expect from somone as devilish and stupid as yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's ironic is that people claiming to be advocates for transgender men/woman are actually the forces preventing treatment and help for them. It's just bizarre. People who believe that treatment should be rendered and would not accept the false doctrine that transgender is within the realm of normal are labeled as bigots. Actually the bigots and false advocates are those claiming to be pro-trans. How can you call yourself an advocate and deny people treatment they desperately need. This is the definition of cruel. Kind of like a pedophile who's also a pediatrician. In this case, it's transgender and their so-called advocates.

Remember, someone had to convince the Jews that Hitler wasn't too bad of a guy. So, they stayed in Nazi Europe. And the rest is history. It does repeat itself doesn't it?

So if you treat someone for body dis-morphia you are creating genocide on the transgender community?

Reading comprehension is definitely not you're strong suit, my dear!

[Anonymous]

Gender dysphoria used to be called “gender identity disorder.” But the mismatch between body and internal sense of gender is not a mental illness. Instead, what need to be addressed are the stress, anxiety, and depression that go along with it.
This new revelation is absolutely due to political pressure and is not based empirically AT ALL. Start pointing out clinicians who agree with this. We'll just wait while you do. I happen to be one and am shocked at the travesty of this fake medicine. But stranger things have happened. I believe this too shall pass. Physicians and other health professionals who've had our hands tied behind our backs in favor of a dangerous agenda will lie in wait. I think the people will be our salvation. There's no way classrooms of children with common sense are going to tolerate what they know to be illigitimate. They're going to fight back. Then the curriculum changes will be dropped.

But don't medical professionals swear to "do no harm"? Why is no one in the medical community standing up to the LGBT community? Obviously, it would be difficult and require tremendous courage, but isn't it their responsibility?

[Anonymous]

Welp, y'all, the devil is among us so I guess the conversation is over. Because really, what the fuck can you say to that?

[Anonymous]

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Gender dysphoria used to be called “gender identity disorder.” But the mismatch between body and internal sense of gender is not a mental illness. Instead, what need to be addressed are the stress, anxiety, and depression that go along with it.
This new revelation is absolutely due to political pressure and is not based empirically AT ALL. Start pointing out clinicians who agree with this. We'll just wait while you do. I happen to be one and am shocked at the travesty of this fake medicine. But stranger things have happened. I believe this too shall pass. Physicians and other health professionals who've had our hands tied behind our backs in favor of a dangerous agenda will lie in wait. I think the people will be our salvation. There's no way classrooms of children with common sense are going to tolerate what they know to be illigitimate. They're going to fight back. Then the curriculum changes will be dropped.

But don't medical professionals swear to "do no harm"? Why is no one in the medical community standing up to the LGBT community? Obviously, it would be difficult and require tremendous courage, but isn't it their responsibility?

Why are you lumping gays and lesbian a with people who are trans? Even most of your minions disagree with you there.

People do "speak up" but SCIENCE doesn't back them up so they're in violation of the licenses and sometimes the law.

Go see your minister to pray the gay away. A psych is not for that