Trump tweet about LL Bean

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Anonymous wrote:L.L. Bean has demonstrated good sense. I'm going to its Website now to dump a ton of money.

They will need it. They are having financial problems. Maybe the boycott is hitting just a little bit on that bottom line.

They, like many American clothing lines, are in trouble because most Americans are cost conscious. If I can buy a tshirt for $10 at Target or something, why would I pay $25 for it a llbean. Fashion wise they are about the same.

In my experience products like outerwear, flannel clothes and bedding and footwear from LL Bean or Lands End are well-made and quite durable. Target and Walmart ... not so much.

And yet, more people still shop at Target/Walmart than LLbean.

You can also drive a 1985 Dodge Aires. What's your point?

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Anonymous wrote:L.L. Bean has demonstrated good sense. I'm going to its Website now to dump a ton of money.

They will need it. They are having financial problems. Maybe the boycott is hitting just a little bit on that bottom line.

They, like many American clothing lines, are in trouble because most Americans are cost conscious. If I can buy a tshirt for $10 at Target or something, why would I pay $25 for it a llbean. Fashion wise they are about the same.

In my experience products like outerwear, flannel clothes and bedding and footwear from LL Bean or Lands End are well-made and quite durable. Target and Walmart ... not so much.

And yet, more people still shop at Target/Walmart than LLbean.

You don't need *more* people shopping at LL Bean than at Target or Walmart. You just need *enough* people shopping at LL Bean to keep them in the black.

There are more people shopping at Target than at Cartier. Doesn't mean Cartier is in trouble. There are more people buying Kias than Mercedes, doesn't mean Mercedes is in trouble, etc. Not that LL Bean is like Cartier, but you get the point.

Who knew denizens of trailer parks and coal country were so trend conscious?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2015/03/25/how-maine-bootmaker-l-l-bean-became-fashions-hottest-company/#7460677e145b

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Anonymous wrote:Linda Bean is an heir to her family company. Her sister, Diane, also made a contribution to the same PAC.

I thought Linda changed the name on her contribution to Diane because she was running afoul of campaign finance law?

I think the report I read indicated her sister Diane also made a contribution. She lives in Ogunquit.

But, heh, maybe a little fraud would make everything more interesting.

What I read was the PAC has refiled its status as Super PAC to make the donation legal. I am wondering how can it be legal for a PAC to file paperwork to be Super PAC after donation is received? Is it not circumventing the law?

Sounds likely...has the SEC chairman Mary Jo White bailed yet?

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Anonymous wrote:Linda Bean is an heir to her family company. Her sister, Diane, also made a contribution to the same PAC.

I thought Linda changed the name on her contribution to Diane because she was running afoul of campaign finance law?

I think the report I read indicated her sister Diane also made a contribution. She lives in Ogunquit.

But, heh, maybe a little fraud would make everything more interesting.

What I read was the PAC has refiled its status as Super PAC to make the donation legal. I am wondering how can it be legal for a PAC to file paperwork to be Super PAC after donation is received? Is it not circumventing the law?

Sounds likely...has the SEC chairman Mary Jo White bailed yet?

I mean FEC chairman, Lee Goodman? I think he is a Republican installed by Obama.

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Anonymous wrote:So...PEOTUS just sent out a tweet thanking LL Bean for its "support" (big campaign donor) and telling people to bu LL Bean. I am no government ethics expert but promoting a specific company in exchange for their support has to be an issue.

Literally everyone I know who shops at LL Bean, down to the girls wearing Bean Boots, are republicans.

Huh? Maine is a blue state.

LL Bean is worn all over New England.
Their quality is great. Their customer service is great.
Trust me, a ton of democrats are wearing LL Bean as well.

And then there's this - http://www.llbean.com/llb/ods/33?nav=bc

No anti-Trump folks are bringing down LL Bean. It's a cultural icon in New England.

LOL! I see s 25 percent off sale, which Bean never does. That tells me they're nervous.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Lol.

Sure I do. I shop quite a bit at LL Bean. Well, I did until I read about Linda Bean's illegal political donations.

They have tons of sales.

I have no opinion on whether we - libs, anti-PEEOTUS-sters - should keep shopping there.

I have been a steady LLBean customer for 20 years now and I have NEVER ever seen a 25% off sale before!

They had another 25% off sale right before Christmas. Perhaps you should pay more attention.

Really? I am very surprised because I bought a bunch of stuff all throughout December, logging in almost daily to check my orders, and never saw a sitewide 25 percent off discount. Even the banner says that this is the biggest discount ever. (Not 25 percent off sale or select items, which happens often, but 25 percent off the whole site, with the exception of the boots.)

That PP is talking nonsense. Probably a Trumpster. The most I have seen before is 20% off.

It was 20% and it ended November 15th.

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Anonymous wrote:So how do the clothing companies in the same market space as LLBean react to this? Lands End? Who else? Do they now feel pressure to donate to Trump so they are on an equal competitive footing as LLBean? Is one US-based company better off because Trump called them out specifically? How does this affect the market? Will we have a list of President-approved companies (all of which contributed to Trump)?

This should be the real concern - but folks here do not quite get it. They would rather call people whiners. Everything is gravy until Trump publicly criticizes the company they work for or publicly trumpets a direct competitor.

Any Trump supporters want to weigh in on this question with a thoughtful answer?

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I just ordered a bunch of LLBean stuff that was on my wish list, and I am as liberal as they come. I hope Trump continues his loose tweets and more companies announce sales!

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Good article on the issue at hand:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/l-l-bean-clarifies-stance-171606277.html?client=safari

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Don't hurt Maine - where jobs are scarce. All it does is feed into Linda Bean's victim complex.

I emailed them. It doesn't have to be a crazy, guns-blazing disavowal stapled to your L.L.Bean backpack, I just said I'm a lifelong customer, my kids wear a lot of it, too, and I'm not necessarily going to boycott, that I understand it's just a board member, but I don't feel like spending my dollars on a company that gives aid or comfort to the incoming looney bin (these were not the exact words I used, obviously).

+1. This is how I feel too. Like most people, my bucket for discretionary spending is not infinite so while I'm not making big declarative statements on facebook about boycotting companies, I definitely do avoid companies that I associate with certain positions or allegiances that I find distasteful. Especially considering there are so many alternatives out there - it's hardly like LL Bean has a monopoly on flannels and rain boots. I'd simply prefer to shop with companies that don't automatically bring to mind things like Trump, homophobia, etc. This lady has the right to spend her money however she likes and so do I.

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Anonymous wrote:You liberals are the most whiny, hyper-sensitive, entitled, pathetic bunch of losers I have ever seen. I don't know if we need to feel sorry for you or laugh at you. There is likely someone on every corporate board in America that supported Trump, so just boycott everything and STFU. Now, on to my LL Bean order.

I'm a liberal, but I agree with the statement that there are Trump supporters on every corporate board in America. Unless you are living off the grid and off your land, you cannot avoid doing business with these people.

LL Bean is a better company than many, treating its workers well and actually manufacturing some of its products in Maine. It would be a shame, IMO, for a good company and its workers to suffer because the Mad Tweeter is an asshat.

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Anonymous wrote:Good article on the issue at hand:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/l-l-bean-clarifies-stance-171606277.html?client=safari

This was a good read...the author has a witty writing style. I think this paragraph makes the critical point:

Ironically, of course, his celebrating them has as much chance of driving them into the ground as not. And that's because he is fueling hatred and disdain and the idea that it's acceptable to reject anything not like you. Trump didn't create this world, but he's fanned the flames of it into an uncontrollable blaze. And now here we are, trying to decide whether or not we'll shop at a 105-year old American company (that still makes its boots in the USA!) not because the company itself made a political statement, but because one of the 50-plus owners did.

The irony is that by boycotting a company that has been explicit in remaining apolitical, while also maintaining business practices that most liberals would dream all companies would, liberals are playing Trump's game.

Don't get caught in his web!

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Anonymous wrote:You liberals are the most whiny, hyper-sensitive, entitled, pathetic bunch of losers I have ever seen. I don't know if we need to feel sorry for you or laugh at you. There is likely someone on every corporate board in America that supported Trump, so just boycott everything and STFU. Now, on to my LL Bean order.

I'm a liberal, but I agree with the statement that there are Trump supporters on every corporate board in America. Unless you are living off the grid and off your land, you cannot avoid doing business with these people.

LL Bean is a better company than many, treating its workers well and actually manufacturing some of its products in Maine. It would be a shame, IMO, for a good company and its workers to suffer because the Mad Tweeter is an asshat.

It's not just her service on the board. She's presumably holds a significant ownership interest. I'm not advocating for a boycott but remember that this isn't a publicly-traded company that is subject to SEC reporting requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:You liberals are the most whiny, hyper-sensitive, entitled, pathetic bunch of losers I have ever seen. I don't know if we need to feel sorry for you or laugh at you. There is likely someone on every corporate board in America that supported Trump, so just boycott everything and STFU. Now, on to my LL Bean order.

I'm a liberal, but I agree with the statement that there are Trump supporters on every corporate board in America. Unless you are living off the grid and off your land, you cannot avoid doing business with these people.

LL Bean is a better company than many, treating its workers well and actually manufacturing some of its products in Maine. It would be a shame, IMO, for a good company and its workers to suffer because the Mad Tweeter is an asshat.

Seriously. I can't believe these people jumping on the boycott bandwagon.

- lifelong democrat

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Anonymous wrote:You liberals are the most whiny, hyper-sensitive, entitled, pathetic bunch of losers I have ever seen. I don't know if we need to feel sorry for you or laugh at you. There is likely someone on every corporate board in America that supported Trump, so just boycott everything and STFU. Now, on to my LL Bean order.

I'm a liberal, but I agree with the statement that there are Trump supporters on every corporate board in America. Unless you are living off the grid and off your land, you cannot avoid doing business with these people.

LL Bean is a better company than many, treating its workers well and actually manufacturing some of its products in Maine. It would be a shame, IMO, for a good company and its workers to suffer because the Mad Tweeter is an asshat.

It's not just her service on the board. She's presumably holds a significant ownership interest. I'm not advocating for a boycott but remember that this isn't a publicly-traded company that is subject to SEC reporting requirements.

Liberal PP here. What is it you think you would know (that would inform this discussion) if they were a publicly traded company? How long do you think they'd continue to make boots in Maine instead of China if they were beholden to shareholders?

As I understand it, she is one of fifty owners.

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Anonymous wrote:You liberals are the most whiny, hyper-sensitive, entitled, pathetic bunch of losers I have ever seen. I don't know if we need to feel sorry for you or laugh at you. There is likely someone on every corporate board in America that supported Trump, so just boycott everything and STFU. Now, on to my LL Bean order.

I'm a liberal, but I agree with the statement that there are Trump supporters on every corporate board in America. Unless you are living off the grid and off your land, you cannot avoid doing business with these people.

LL Bean is a better company than many, treating its workers well and actually manufacturing some of its products in Maine. It would be a shame, IMO, for a good company and its workers to suffer because the Mad Tweeter is an asshat.

Seriously. I can't believe these people jumping on the boycott bandwagon.

- lifelong democrat

I don't think most are. But we are emailing the company to let them know how we feel.