Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is becoming United's boarding groups.

1B is totally out of whack. Yale is 1B, Duke is 2A or 2B

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona belongs with AWS too

Ok this is the final list:

HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore Pomona
Berkeley

This is a good list

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is such a weird list

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Caltech, Columbia, Penn (mainly bc of Wharton)

2A) Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Swarthmore

3A) Notre Dame, Emory, UCLA, Wellesley, Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is becoming United's boarding groups.

In hiring, we would never make this many delineations. Sure, there are generally recognized top schools (Harvard, MIT, Stanford . . .), but it is pretty much shades of gray as you go on.

[Anonymous]

HYPSM
Caltech Columbia
Penn Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore Pomona
Berkeley

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is becoming United's boarding groups.

In hiring, we would never make this many delineations. Sure, there are generally recognized top schools (Harvard, MIT, Stanford . . .), but it is pretty much shades of gray as you go on.

Exactly this. Nobody delineates between a Notre Dame from Duke for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is such a weird list

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Caltech, Columbia, Penn (mainly bc of Wharton)

2A) Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Swarthmore

3A) Notre Dame, Emory, UCLA, Wellesley, Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

What the hell does this even mean, though? I would never assume 2As are better educated/more capable than 2Bs or 3As. I certainly wouldn't assume a UCLA grad is better educated/more capable than a W&L grad, for instance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is such a weird list

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Caltech, Columbia, Penn (mainly bc of Wharton)

2A) Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Swarthmore

3A) Notre Dame, Emory, UCLA, Wellesley, Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

What the hell does this even mean, though? I would never assume 2As are better educated/more capable than 2Bs or 3As. I certainly wouldn't assume a UCLA grad is better educated/more capable than a W&L grad, for instance.

Nothing. It means nothing. There are so many bright, motivated, capable kids out there who want to go to great colleges. This is all so silly.

[Anonymous]

The truly elite don’t care what random strangers think is elite. But don’t take my word for it.

If you are concerned with prestige within academia, look at USNWR. But even within academia that’s taken with more than a few grains of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn has the #1 MBA program, #3 medical school, #4 law school, #1 undergraduate business school, #6 ranked national university, #8 for undergraduate economics, among many many many other top programs. All by USNWR.

Penn also has the most billionaire alumni out of any college.

https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/news/this-school-has-the-most-billionaire-alumni/

There is no university more elite than Penn.

+100 follow the money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

BOGUS

Completely bogus, biased and baseless rating.. its just a fancy doodling

Where is selectivity or the acceptance rate.. thats one of the most important factor. Any univ / college that has acceptance rate greater than 15% cant be called as elite.

Another, over all endowment and endowment per student.. Any college / univ with less than $1Mn per student endowment cant be called as elite.

This would remove schools like Duke.

[Anonymous]

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Brown
Cornell
Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1)Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech, Northwestern, Brown

2) Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst, Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley, WashU, CMU

3) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard, UNC, Boston College, Vassar, Bowdoin, W&L, Davidson, GaTech, Hamilton

I removed Wake and W&M, as they're a tier below.

Good list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

BOGUS

Completely bogus, biased and baseless rating.. its just a fancy doodling

Where is selectivity or the acceptance rate.. thats one of the most important factor. Any univ / college that has acceptance rate greater than 15% cant be called as elite.

Another, over all endowment and endowment per student.. Any college / univ with less than $1Mn per student endowment cant be called as elite.

I like these two parameters, that's truly elite consideration.

So what are the colleges according to these two parameters?

[Anonymous]

There are many excellent universities, but I limit this definition to the T15 schools (Ivy + Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke and Johns Hopkins) + Amherst Williams Swarthmore