Is a business major for dumb kids?

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Half of T25 schools have it. Rice recently began undergrad business program. Brown started business track.
If schools have it, it's considered competitive prestigious programs.

Yup. Then you have schools without traditional undergraduate business majors that have their own flavors. Vanderbilt has "HOD" which is Human & Organizational Development - it is the MOST POPULAR undergraduate major at Vandy. It's basically business, psychology and communication - three majors abhorred by so many on DCUM.

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Why do we have all these aggressively judgemental threads lately?

OP, what is lacking in your life? Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never heard of a business major getting a PhD.

What would be the point?

Smart people can finish a PhD in 4 years and it is miles ahead of a masters degree.

4 years is enough time to be a senior manager or VP with the MBA

The MBA took 2 years though. They could have earned PhD in 4 years instead.

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IDK why you are harping on pursuit of a PhD?? Business kids don’t pursue PhDs. They pursue $$. PhD’s are for the snotty academics who think they are elite, but find themselves middle aged realize that their intelligence lacked common sense so they currently make less than a newly minted undergrad.

I know lots of PhDs making 7 figures but okay.

Oh you know Lots, sure you do. 3 F500s later and I know Hundreds of VPs and Csuite who have cashed in with a ‘measly’ MBA. LOL You’re probably one of those PhDs that claims Dr on your email signature line. Puke. There’s a reason there aren’t many of you at the top of the big companies. Out of tune out of touch.

You have issues. The retail clothing store worker who usually helps me has an MBA from HBS. Defending the MBA is a lost cause and not the topic of this thread.

So this is a sideways swipe at the girl who works with you. Wow you’re an awesome boss, not. Or are you judging all MBAs against her. Did she graduate T10 MBA or some program mill. The way many PhDs are a road to nowhere.. What exactly, is the point you are trying to make?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do we have all these aggressively judgemental threads lately?

OP, what is lacking in your life? Seriously.

Reddit kids. You’re no longer talking to adults

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Unless it is at Ivy league or T20, business major admission is least competitive, and doesnt do much for getting a decent job.

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My nephew is graduating this year from a good business school - not Ivy, not T-20. As a junior, he got a summer internship that netted him 10s of thousands of dollars. They offered him a job with a 6 figure salary (not any fancypants firms you have heard of).

He was a National Merit Scholar. Perfect score on the math portion of his SATs. He had several admits into CS and business programs, and chose business. He has a plan for what he wants to do with that degree, and seems to be executing it.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never heard of a business major getting a PhD.

What would be the point?

Smart people can finish a PhD in 4 years and it is miles ahead of a masters degree.

4 years is enough time to be a senior manager or VP with the MBA

The MBA took 2 years though. They could have earned PhD in 4 years instead.

DP
IDK why you are harping on pursuit of a PhD?? Business kids don’t pursue PhDs. They pursue $$. PhD’s are for the snotty academics who think they are elite, but find themselves middle aged realize that their intelligence lacked common sense so they currently make less than a newly minted undergrad.

I know lots of PhDs making 7 figures but okay.

Oh you know Lots, sure you do. 3 F500s later and I know Hundreds of VPs and Csuite who have cashed in with a ‘measly’ MBA. LOL You’re probably one of those PhDs that claims Dr on your email signature line. Puke. There’s a reason there aren’t many of you at the top of the big companies. Out of tune out of touch.

You have issues. The retail clothing store worker who usually helps me has an MBA from HBS. Defending the MBA is a lost cause and not the topic of this thread.

So this is a sideways swipe at the girl who works with you. Wow you’re an awesome boss, not. Or are you judging all MBAs against her. Did she graduate T10 MBA or some program mill. The way many PhDs are a road to nowhere.. What exactly, is the point you are trying to make?

Graduated from HBS and now sells clothing in a retail store.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never heard of a business major getting a PhD.

What would be the point?

Smart people can finish a PhD in 4 years and it is miles ahead of a masters degree.

4 years is enough time to be a senior manager or VP with the MBA

The MBA took 2 years though. They could have earned PhD in 4 years instead.

DP
IDK why you are harping on pursuit of a PhD?? Business kids don’t pursue PhDs. They pursue $$. PhD’s are for the snotty academics who think they are elite, but find themselves middle aged realize that their intelligence lacked common sense so they currently make less than a newly minted undergrad.

I know lots of PhDs making 7 figures but okay.

Oh you know Lots, sure you do. 3 F500s later and I know Hundreds of VPs and Csuite who have cashed in with a ‘measly’ MBA. LOL You’re probably one of those PhDs that claims Dr on your email signature line. Puke. There’s a reason there aren’t many of you at the top of the big companies. Out of tune out of touch.

You have issues. The retail clothing store worker who usually helps me has an MBA from HBS. Defending the MBA is a lost cause and not the topic of this thread.

Please see a reputable psychiatrist the earliest, for your family’s sake.

See one yourself

[Anonymous]

Stay away from marketing and they’ll be fine. Suggest a more quantitative track like finance but take full advantage of the networking and internship stuff and they’ll land great.

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Anonymous wrote:The average business major is not a genius, but neither is the average psychology major.

Except for the very best undergraduate business programs - UPenn, Georgetown, Michigan, UVA - undergraduate business programs are intellectually weak. That is, they don’t really encourage critical thinking or develop writing and research skills. Instead, they mostly teach toolkit skills that can be applied to business.

The best programs also require two years of liberal arts and apply business teachings through rigorous case studies, sometimes ones sponsored by Fortune 500 firms. Those case studies challenge students to apply what they’ve learned in an unstructured environment - I.e., they must solve real-life problems. These kids go to high-end employers , like McKinsey, Goldman, and FANG.

However, even kids who go to great undergraduate business programs are less intellectual/more practical than peers who major in philosophy, for example. It’s not that such business majors are dumb, but they do want application, and oftentimes, a quick pathway to a lucrative career in high-end consulting or finance.

What made you except these schools? Do you actually have enough direct experience or knowledge to make this claim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stay away from marketing and they’ll be fine. Suggest a more quantitative track like finance but take full advantage of the networking and internship stuff and they’ll land great.

There's nothing wrong with marketing.

You really need a lesson in business matters.

[Anonymous]

The dumb kids I knew gravitated towards social work. Several top students went for education....A students often become teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we have all these aggressively judgemental threads lately?

OP, what is lacking in your life? Seriously.

It’s cancel culture + anonymous postings, setting a hostile tone for people with the inability to navigate gray areas, where some business majors & degrees are great while simultaneously some aren’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stay away from marketing and they’ll be fine. Suggest a more quantitative track like finance but take full advantage of the networking and internship stuff and they’ll land great.

Marketing is very hot. These days they've added data analytics to the programs, and with ai probably will get even hotter.

The person I know in marketing is doing very, very well for herself. She's close to retirement at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:The dumb kids I knew gravitated towards social work. Several top students went for education....A students often become teachers.

I thought Communications was for the "dumb" kids.