Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only if you hate public education.

When it's not safe and and doesn't challenge kids, what good is it?

In need of fixing.

When your kitchen gets outdated, do you take a wrecking ball to it and just eat out at restaurants because clearly the kitchen wasn't good enough?
Or do you renovate your kitchen?

This notion of increasing choice / marketplace / tinkle-on-children education theories is a load of crap and a money grab.

Improve public schools. Don't rob them.

I love you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers won't work in DC. If there were a market for private schools that cost $10,000/year the schools would already exist.

It will help with tuition.

[Anonymous]

How do DCPCS parents feel about their new champion in the White House? Will Secy DeVos and her boss be welcome to visit MV? Strange bedfellows, indeed.

[Anonymous]

Right, so now people can pay $27k for private school school while removing money from the public system.

Bad idea!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only if you hate public education.

This.

Yes. Only the big business privatizers will win this one. Devos' voucher experiment in Detroit was a complete failure. She acknowledges that she is in the business of buying this country's conscience in a sick pay-to-play scheme. Betsy DeVos wrote in an op-ed for the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call. "I know a little something about soft money, as my family is the largest single contributor of soft money to the national Republican Party. I have decided, however, to stop taking offense at the suggestion that we are buying influence. Now I simply concede the point. They are right. We do expect some things in return." In fact, her brother founded Blackwater, the private contractor that provided security services during the Iraqi War. The family profits off the unfortunate circumstances of others.

The delight of the OP is disgusting since it a celebration of rule by a small oligarchy of wealthy individuals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only if you hate public education.

When it's not safe and and doesn't challenge kids, what good is it?

In need of fixing.

When your kitchen gets outdated, do you take a wrecking ball to it and just eat out at restaurants because clearly the kitchen wasn't good enough?
Or do you renovate your kitchen?

This notion of increasing choice / marketplace / tinkle-on-children education theories is a load of crap and a money grab.

Improve public schools. Don't rob them.

Guess what, public schools have had plenty of time to get fixed and it ain't happened yet. That's why charters are becoming the majority in DC: public schools suck and DCPS hasn't done a damn thing to make them better. Yes, something new will be great. DCPS means throwing good money after bad.

[Anonymous]

I live in DC and pay $26k per year for each of my kids to go to private school, I can afford it now with no voucher. My kids' school is extremely selective and will not now start opening up spots for kids who couldn't pay but for a voucher, but somehow the government may be willing to pay me to send my kids to a private school that I'm already paying for out of pocket? How will this improve anything beyond my own financial position?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers won't work in DC. If there were a market for private schools that cost $10,000/year the schools would already exist.

It will help with tuition.

it will be means tested. If you are already affording $35k for private you aren't getting a voucher.

[Anonymous]

You all can't see it now but it is going to hit you hard. You know that FREE babysitting you get through the PK3 and PK4 programs that Obama helped to bring to your neighborhood school? They will be the first to go. There goes your extended vacation now that you have to pay for that 2 years of day care. Too bad, so sad! And those young black girls who watch your kids every day with college degrees in early childhood education. Back on those welfare rolls as those jobs dry up. Sigh. Nanny...deported. Neighborhood public school goes to crap as funds are cut and money is diverted to charters -- that your snowflake can't lottery into. Hot damn! Stuck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all can't see it now but it is going to hit you hard. You know that FREE babysitting you get through the PK3 and PK4 programs that Obama helped to bring to your neighborhood school? They will be the first to go. There goes your extended vacation now that you have to pay for that 2 years of day care. Too bad, so sad! And those young black girls who watch your kids every day with college degrees in early childhood education. Back on those welfare rolls as those jobs dry up. Sigh. Nanny...deported. Neighborhood public school goes to crap as funds are cut and money is diverted to charters -- that your snowflake can't lottery into. Hot damn! Stuck.

Good point! That will be the first thing to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers won't work in DC. If there were a market for private schools that cost $10,000/year the schools would already exist.

It will help with tuition.

it will be means tested. If you are already affording $35k for private you aren't getting a voucher.

My private school accepts one in eight applicants now, they are unlikely to change their selective admissions process now to get $10k per kid. How does this help anyone?

[Anonymous]

This is all nonsense. The federal government can't impose a voucher program using state or local funds. Money for such a program would have to be drawn from the federal education budget.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/upshot/why-donald-trumps-education-pick-would-face-barriers-for-vouchers.html?_r=0

[Anonymous]

Voucher amounts will not be enough for the average family. I'm wondering if there will be income limits?

[Anonymous]

OP, you're poorly informed. DC has a school voucher program that is a miserable failure. Most of the students go to schools that are almost entirely voucher-funded and there is no accredation or accountability process for these voucher schools. The state of these schools is extremely bad. Vouchers will not fix the public education challenges in our city or in our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you're poorly informed. DC has a school voucher program that is a miserable failure. Most of the students go to schools that are almost entirely voucher-funded and there is no accredation or accountability process for these voucher schools. The state of these schools is extremely bad. Vouchers will not fix the public education challenges in our city or in our country.

Here is the National Center for Education Statistics-funded report on the DC Opportunity Scholars program.
http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/pubs/20104018/

As an FYI, the voucher provided $7,500/year. If that were applied to my DC's school, all you'd have to do is come up with the extra $32,500.