The rebellion against Trump has begun.

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Anonymous wrote:Two senators have un-endorsed him, one GOP state legislator has left the party in protest, and Ryan effectively called him a racist. And that was just yesterday. Republicans know that Trump will not only likely lose and take the Senate and possibly the House with him, but he is destroying the Republican party as a viable national political institution. The question is, will they replace him before or during the convention?


It looked pretty bad early on yesterday, but I think his toned down, teleprompter-led speech may have been enough to calm the waters, for now. Give him a week; he'll find someone else to insult.


He's constitutionally incapable of acting like a civil adult. Plus that teleprompter didn't help. He went off script to tell a "pee pee" joke. Seriously.


I thought I heard it wrong, but you heard it too. Wow!


He has the emotional IQ of a middle school child. Just imagine this nutter as president.
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Anonymous wrote:They are screwed wether they replace Trump or not. What do you think he will do if he is dumped at the convention? Sue of course! That will leave the replacement nominee in legal limbo while Trump continues to campaign.

Their best hope is to unendorse Trump and then argue they should keep the House and Senate because you can't trust Hillary.


I suspect that even if he loses to Hillary in November, they won't be able to call it because he will leverage lawsuits in several states. He is going to hose this thing eight ways left of Sunday.


He might, but nobody will be taking him seriously at that point. They might even give him all Mexican judges on purpose.
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Ben sasse is one of the extremely few elected republicans who has steadfastly remained anti-trump. He's also really intelligent - Harvard plus Yale Ph.D. Pretty good looking to boot. I'm thinking he's a good contender for 2020. I used to like Paul ryan but have really lost respect for him since he gave in to trump. What a disappointment and I bet Romney feels the same way about him.
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Anonymous wrote:Ben sasse is one of the extremely few elected republicans who has steadfastly remained anti-trump. He's also really intelligent - Harvard plus Yale Ph.D. Pretty good looking to boot. I'm thinking he's a good contender for 2020. I used to like Paul ryan but have really lost respect for him since he gave in to trump. What a disappointment and I bet Romney feels the same way about him.


I think even Ryan feels the same way!
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Anonymous wrote:Ben sasse is one of the extremely few elected republicans who has steadfastly remained anti-trump. He's also really intelligent - Harvard plus Yale Ph.D. Pretty good looking to boot. I'm thinking he's a good contender for 2020. I used to like Paul ryan but have really lost respect for him since he gave in to trump. What a disappointment and I bet Romney feels the same way about him.


I think even Ryan feels the same way!


+1 He has got to be kicking himself.

There's no excuse for endorsing Trump in the first place, so I have a hard time with the un-endorsements, but figure it's better than actually continuing to back him.
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Anonymous wrote:Ben sasse is one of the extremely few elected republicans who has steadfastly remained anti-trump. He's also really intelligent - Harvard plus Yale Ph.D. Pretty good looking to boot. I'm thinking he's a good contender for 2020. I used to like Paul ryan but have really lost respect for him since he gave in to trump. What a disappointment and I bet Romney feels the same way about him.


I think even Ryan feels the same way!


+1 He has got to be kicking himself.

There's no excuse for endorsing Trump in the first place, so I have a hard time with the un-endorsements, but figure it's better than actually continuing to back him.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ben sasse is one of the extremely few elected republicans who has steadfastly remained anti-trump. He's also really intelligent - Harvard plus Yale Ph.D. Pretty good looking to boot. I'm thinking he's a good contender for 2020. I used to like Paul ryan but have really lost respect for him since he gave in to trump. What a disappointment and I bet Romney feels the same way about him.


I think even Ryan feels the same way!


Oh, he's regretting it every morning he wakes up. The best he can do at this point is do a mea culpa and drive the effort to replace Trump at the convention.
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Anonymous wrote:Ben sasse is one of the extremely few elected republicans who has steadfastly remained anti-trump. He's also really intelligent - Harvard plus Yale Ph.D. Pretty good looking to boot. I'm thinking he's a good contender for 2020. I used to like Paul ryan but have really lost respect for him since he gave in to trump. What a disappointment and I bet Romney feels the same way about him.


I think even Ryan feels the same way!


+1 He has got to be kicking himself.

There's no excuse for endorsing Trump in the first place, so I have a hard time with the un-endorsements, but figure it's better than actually continuing to back him.


+2

What surprises me is that he held out and then endorsed Trump AFTER one of the worst weeks (after he attacked a Republican governor in her own state, continued to make fun of the Republicans he beat INCLUDING the ones who had already endorsed him, and insulted a federal judge). THAT'S what you were waiting for before endorsing him???
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The RNC won't do anything at this point. Reince Priebus is a Quisling and not even a very convincing one at that. It's the Republican officeholders who need to push this.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are screwed wether they replace Trump or not. What do you think he will do if he is dumped at the convention? Sue of course! That will leave the replacement nominee in legal limbo while Trump continues to campaign.

Their best hope is to unendorse Trump and then argue they should keep the House and Senate because you can't trust Hillary.


I suspect that even if he loses to Hillary in November, they won't be able to call it because he will leverage lawsuits in several states. He is going to hose this thing eight ways left of Sunday.


He might, but nobody will be taking him seriously at that point. They might even give him all Mexican judges on purpose.


If it goes to the Supreme court (like 2000) he'll blame Sotomayor for sure.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are screwed wether they replace Trump or not. What do you think he will do if he is dumped at the convention? Sue of course! That will leave the replacement nominee in legal limbo while Trump continues to campaign.

Their best hope is to unendorse Trump and then argue they should keep the House and Senate because you can't trust Hillary.


I suspect that even if he loses to Hillary in November, they won't be able to call it because he will leverage lawsuits in several states. He is going to hose this thing eight ways left of Sunday.


He might, but nobody will be taking him seriously at that point. They might even give him all Mexican judges on purpose.


If it goes to the Supreme court (like 2000) he'll blame Sotomayor for sure.


And Alito. In his small ignorant mind they're probably all the same anyway.
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Anonymous wrote:Ben sasse is one of the extremely few elected republicans who has steadfastly remained anti-trump. He's also really intelligent - Harvard plus Yale Ph.D. Pretty good looking to boot. I'm thinking he's a good contender for 2020. I used to like Paul ryan but have really lost respect for him since he gave in to trump. What a disappointment and I bet Romney feels the same way about him.


Peter Thiel is a very intelligent man. He received his B.A. in Philosophy from Stanford in 1989 and acquired a J.D. from Stanford Law School in 1992. He supports Donald Trump. And he is not a professional politician like Ben Sasse.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ben sasse is one of the extremely few elected republicans who has steadfastly remained anti-trump. He's also really intelligent - Harvard plus Yale Ph.D. Pretty good looking to boot. I'm thinking he's a good contender for 2020. I used to like Paul ryan but have really lost respect for him since he gave in to trump. What a disappointment and I bet Romney feels the same way about him.


Peter Thiel is a very intelligent man. He received his B.A. in Philosophy from Stanford in 1989 and acquired a J.D. from Stanford Law School in 1992. He supports Donald Trump. And he is not a professional politician like Ben Sasse.


Degrees and school names don't automatically confer intelligence or reason. Many highly educated people are ignorant racists.
Anonymous
It all depends on whether Trump threatens to lose Dukakis-style, with AZ, MT, NC, GA going blue, and TX a battleground.

If so, the rats will leave as they don't want to risk losing the Senate.

If it stays close ... there will be individuals who are seeking to help themselves (e.g. Kirk in IL, who's facing a re-election this fall) but the party apparatus will largely stay behind Trump, if only in a pro forma sense the way Reagan endorsed Ford in 1976 and then did absolutely nothing.


True enough. Note the sound of crickets as Clinton ripped into him the other day. The party was painfully silent when it came to jumping to his defense. They will let him hang out there in the breeze. For Trump, it's all coming home to roost.


Yes, I don't understand why more Republicans are not taking this course. Silent treatment. Avoid questions about who you are endorsing. Skip the convention. Let him twist in the wind. Of course Ryan can't avoid the questions 100x a day, but many can. As a partisan Dem, I can understand not wanting to "support the other side." So just keep your mouth shut and run your own race. (Though on the other hand, as a partisan Dem, ideally I suppose Rs don't take my advice, and instead either (1) tie themselves to Trump or (2) scream and complain and implode the party.
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Anonymous wrote:Also -- we haven't had Obama coming out to campaign yet -- this will be the first time since 2008 he will be in pure campaign mode.

Trump's too stupid to try and play on Hispanic-Black tensions, he doesn't realize everyone who's susceptible to the race card is already voting Republican.


Trump isn't actually "too stupid", he just does things differently than Hillary. Hillary gets in front of a group of mostly black people and talks about issues that she thinks only matter to black people and that she thinks are the only issues black people care about. She talks about criminal justice reform, investing in poor/urban neighborhoods and affordable housing because she thinks that will get her "the black vote". Education? Jobs? Immigration? Nah, those aren't "black issues".

Then she gets in front of Latinos and talks about how racist Trump is and the wall he plans to build, amnesty, and deportation. Why would they want to hear what she has to say about education and the economy? They don't care about that!

So if what you're saying is that Trump isn't focusing on ways to divide the country (even more than it already is!) by creating more tension based on race and SES, then I guess you are right. But it's not because he's stupid.
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