Why are you saying that the "earliest public record we can find was in September" when he said "I guess so" - that he supports the Iraq invasion - in September 2002? If you say it to Howard Stern, who had at that point the more listeners than anyone else on the radio, it doesn't count? As to "private citizen" - do you consider the Dixie Chicks "private citizens"? Donald Trump is claiming that he was publicly against the war before it started. Why wasn't he pilloried like they were? |
Clinton did not champion the war. She might have been naive in voting to give Bush the authority to decide to go to war, but her own words before her vote are definitively not championing intervention. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2016/02/hillary_clinton_told_the_truth_about_her_iraq_war_vote.html It helps your arguments to tell the truth. |
We can't elect a naive person to be the president. How many lives has naive Hillary destroyed with her hawkish policies in the middle east? Bernie is right - she is not qualified to be the president just on the Iraq war alone. Anyone who voted for that disastrous war is not qualified to be the president of the united states. Being naive is not an excuse for millions of lives and trillions of treasure. |
1. Trump has been flirting with running for 20 years, which you seem to have forgotten. 2. If he wants to claim he opposed the war he needs to show proof or just not make the claim. 3. It is too late for a leader to oppose a war after he sends in our troops. |
Can you also start a thread about Hillery's flip-flops and lies? Probably more meat on that bone. |
There are a number of those here already. But feel free to start another one. Does this mean you have admitted defeat on this issue? Because there is zero evidence that Donald Trump opposed the war in Iraq, let alone thought it would "destabilize the Middle East," before the war began. Considering he's holding that up as an example of his foreign policy foresight and wisdom, I think it's pretty important to debunk it entirely. |
LOL uh...no...nice try though. anything above that would give you an indication of 'admitting defeat"? |
Totally changing the subject? It's a common tactic. So, do you have actual evidence that Trump said anything before the start of the Iraq War about it being a terrible idea that would destabilize the Middle East? |
He didn't oppose the Iraq war until much later.
http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/no-donald-trump-didnt-oppose-iraq-war |
Quit digging. Hillary is the biggest hawk in the Democratic party. She lost to a junior senator because of her vote for the Iraq war. She is going to lose this cycle to a neophyte opposing the war from the start. |
Again, evidence please that he opposed the war from the start. |
Obfuscation and intentional confusion is also another tactic, particularly of those who don't have a leg to stand on. |
Bernie did not always think so Sanders announced on Vermont Public Television, ?Not only am I going to vote for John Kerry, I am going to run around this country and do everything I can to dissuade people from voting for Ralph Nader... I am going to do everything I can, while I have differences with John Kerry, to make sure that he is elected.? |
Trump, one day into the Iraq War, tells Neil Cavuto "it looks like a tremendous success."
https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/trump-one-day-into-iraq-invasion-it-looks-like-a-tremendous?utm_term=.fvWpxDll7#.oqDq0WYY2 |