Nate Silver: "Go to a state school"

[Anonymous]

This is all quite reminiscent of the Private School forum where many DCUM posters attack highly selective schools or engage in concern trolling with the agenda of dissuading others from applying to them (or accepting offers once March rolls around).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused by folks calling some Ivy League grads as coddled? Coddled by whom?

by the school. Some elite schools treat their kids as "too big to fail", and don't want to impact their student body average GPA, so they let them withdraw up to the lat week before finals, whereas in big state schools, you can't withdraw that close to finals, and you just take the F or D or whatever, and make it up in the summer. And big state schools don't hold your hand and treat you like you're "special".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is all quite reminiscent of the Private School forum where many DCUM posters attack highly selective schools or engage in concern trolling with the agenda of dissuading others from applying to them (or accepting offers once March rolls around).

? Is Nate Silver a dcum poster with kids ready to go to college?

[Anonymous]

Not Nate Silver, but the posters agreeing with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not Nate Silver, but the posters agreeing with him.

Hard to not agree with some of what he wrote.

Some of these elite colleges have taken an image hit, like Harvard, and their DEI admissions policies. Notice how more and more elite schools are going back to test required.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused by folks calling some Ivy League grads as coddled? Coddled by whom?

by the school. Some elite schools treat their kids as "too big to fail", and don't want to impact their student body average GPA, so they let them withdraw up to the lat week before finals, whereas in big state schools, you can't withdraw that close to finals, and you just take the F or D or whatever, and make it up in the summer. And big state schools don't hold your hand and treat you like you're "special".

+1 OP here. The Ivy grads we have interviewed definitely came across like they had been told they were god's gift to the world. Yet they are applying for jobs with a steep learning curve. Nobody wants to hire someone that doesn't think they have anything to learn, or who will assume they are smarter than anyone who went to a state school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused by folks calling some Ivy League grads as coddled? Coddled by whom?

They’ll regard the Columbia grad as:

More likely to be coddled;

More likely to hold strong political opinions that will distract from their work;

More likely to have benefited from grade inflation and perhaps dubious admissions policies.

[Anonymous]

Nate Silver has a lot of opinions. This is one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you like impacted courses of 250+ students taught by TAs, this advice is spot on.

Or go to schools with tiny class sizes taught by adjuncts who are also teaching at the cc down the road.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not Nate Silver, but the posters agreeing with him.

Hard to not agree with some of what he wrote.

Some of these elite colleges have taken an image hit, like Harvard, and their DEI admissions policies. Notice how more and more elite schools are going back to test required.

Such an image hit that most of them keeping getting more applicants each year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.natesilver.net/p/go-to-a-state-school

I don't always agree with Nate Silver but I think he is spot on. I have interviewed several Ivy League grads that came across as entitled and coddled. I have to wonder if other hiring managers are seeing a similar trend.

Nate Silver 😂🤣

He can not add he’s an idiot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you like impacted courses of 250+ students taught by TAs, this advice is spot on.

I guess your kid doesn’t attend a state school. Not our experience at all.

[Anonymous]

I mean, you're all arguing about NOTHING.

Because precious few of your kids are getting into the Ivies or assimilated. There aren't enough seats!

So you'll just have to be happy with all the decent schools your kids go to.

Win-win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Double Ivy grad. Hiring manager at major consulting firm. Agree with everything Silver said. Everything is spot on.

It's not the 1990s any more. Most parents with kids heading to college won't realize how much higher education has changed since their days, especially at elite schools. Even if the name of the classes look familiar, how those classes are taught is hugely different now and far more ideologically slanted.

Our best associates and analyst these days are from major state schools but there's also a place for the good and solid LACs too, so don't lose hope.

Thanks for your comment. This is helpful (not OP, but someone whose kid goes to a great LAC, having been rejected by their top choice Ivy).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YOUR kids should go to community college then state school or better yet trade school…

My kids? Oh, they are at elite SLACs, Ivies, Georgetown, or UVA at worst.

I deeply pity your kids.