Textbooks

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand what the kids are supposed to use to reference if they don’t have a textbook. How to do a math problem, you reference the textbook, right?

Do college kids have textbooks still?

[Anonymous]

Yes. College kids have textbooks but many are digital soft copies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of textbooks was the biggest mistake from FCPS

It all comes down to money. I doubt they want to replace half of them every year after they are ripped, defaced, or ruined in the latest classroom destruction incident.

When I was in FCPS (a long time ago) we had textbooks passed down for a number of years. You could see the names written in the front. Covered them in paper bags. I'm sure some number every year went missing or were destroyed by negligent students, but most survived the year. You should all remember this.

Are the kids today that much more destructive or negligent? Or do the textbook companies just demand too much money (it is a bit of a racket - maybe a lot of a racket)?

Or are the schools spending so much on technology they had to sacrifice textbooks. I think it may be time to return to textbooks.

The kids today are overwhelmingly more destructive, and some are even proud to vandalize school property. Very few parents hold their kids accountable for their behavior, or even say "kids will be kids," so kids never learn to respect property.

I am a teacher who issues novels to students 3-4 times each year. On average, 20-30 kids lose or damage their books beyond repair EACH TIME they are issued.

In addition, a number of students vandalize the desks, rip posters off walls in hallways, intentionally dent lockers, break their computers, spill water on others intentionally, and leave trash all over the hallways and classrooms. It is out of control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Never.

Never is right. And it's one of the reasons we left FCPS for private school. Utter nonsense with screen time and no textbooks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of textbooks was the biggest mistake from FCPS

Agree.

I suspect some of the decision was based on the fact that textbooks are regulated by the state, while there is zero oversight on slide decks, paper print outs from the internet, and random youtube links.

[Anonymous]

If they have textbooks they need to have lockers. The bell time isn't long enough to use lockers easily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. College kids have textbooks but many are digital soft copies.

Are they still like $150 a book that's badly written, no one ever reads, and probably written by the Profs. friend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of textbooks was the biggest mistake from FCPS

It all comes down to money. I doubt they want to replace half of them every year after they are ripped, defaced, or ruined in the latest classroom destruction incident.

When I was in FCPS (a long time ago) we had textbooks passed down for a number of years. You could see the names written in the front. Covered them in paper bags. I'm sure some number every year went missing or were destroyed by negligent students, but most survived the year. You should all remember this.

Are the kids today that much more destructive or negligent? Or do the textbook companies just demand too much money (it is a bit of a racket - maybe a lot of a racket)?

Or are the schools spending so much on technology they had to sacrifice textbooks. I think it may be time to return to textbooks.

The kids today are overwhelmingly more destructive, and some are even proud to vandalize school property. Very few parents hold their kids accountable for their behavior, or even say "kids will be kids," so kids never learn to respect property.

I am a teacher who issues novels to students 3-4 times each year. On average, 20-30 kids lose or damage their books beyond repair EACH TIME they are issued.

In addition, a number of students vandalize the desks, rip posters off walls in hallways, intentionally dent lockers, break their computers, spill water on others intentionally, and leave trash all over the hallways and classrooms. It is out of control.

+1. As a parent I cannot count the number of times my kids have had to evacuate their own classrooms because some kid was out of control. We try and teach our kids respect for other people's property, but we're only one family. I cannot tell you the stories we've heard from friends who work in schools about kids. If parents want textbooks, they have to parent first.

We're switching to private where the consequences for loosing or damaging a textbook are stringent enough that parents will have to care, but just by being in private they probably care to begin with. I'm not sure there's a way to make parents feel the consequences of their poor parenting without people screaming about equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. College kids have textbooks but many are digital soft copies.

Are they still like $150 a book that's badly written, no one ever reads, and probably written by the Profs. friend?

Many colleges are using a program through Barnes and Noble, First Day. For many schools, you pay to rent the digital copies, then you can pay extra to have a loose leaf copy of that digital text. It may vary between schools, depending on the contract with B&N.

https://gmu.bncollege.com/first-day-faqs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of textbooks was the biggest mistake from FCPS

It all comes down to money. I doubt they want to replace half of them every year after they are ripped, defaced, or ruined in the latest classroom destruction incident.

When I was in FCPS (a long time ago) we had textbooks passed down for a number of years. You could see the names written in the front. Covered them in paper bags. I'm sure some number every year went missing or were destroyed by negligent students, but most survived the year. You should all remember this.

Are the kids today that much more destructive or negligent? Or do the textbook companies just demand too much money (it is a bit of a racket - maybe a lot of a racket)?

Or are the schools spending so much on technology they had to sacrifice textbooks. I think it may be time to return to textbooks.

The kids today are overwhelmingly more destructive, and some are even proud to vandalize school property. Very few parents hold their kids accountable for their behavior, or even say "kids will be kids," so kids never learn to respect property.

I am a teacher who issues novels to students 3-4 times each year. On average, 20-30 kids lose or damage their books beyond repair EACH TIME they are issued.

In addition, a number of students vandalize the desks, rip posters off walls in hallways, intentionally dent lockers, break their computers, spill water on others intentionally, and leave trash all over the hallways and classrooms. It is out of control.

I grew up in a different country, where every student has a textbook for every subject except PE. Parents pay tuition including the cost of textbooks. The textbooks are not as luxury as American textbooks. The paper and binding are just the normal, cheap books. Teacher encouraged us to make marks, highlights and notes on the book. I clearly remember one of my teacher told us on the first day of his class:" At the end of this semester, I want to see all of your textbooks become very old and even ripped. You should use it before class, at class and after class. The textbook will be threw into the trash can. The knowledge will be absorbed in your brain."

All the issue the teacher mentioned can be solved. There will be publisher who is willing to print textbooks with cheap paper and binding. Let the market talk. Also, let the parents pay for the textbooks . Sponsor the students from low SES family. Vandalize school property? Pay for it. So easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of textbooks was the biggest mistake from FCPS

It all comes down to money. I doubt they want to replace half of them every year after they are ripped, defaced, or ruined in the latest classroom destruction incident.

When I was in FCPS (a long time ago) we had textbooks passed down for a number of years. You could see the names written in the front. Covered them in paper bags. I'm sure some number every year went missing or were destroyed by negligent students, but most survived the year. You should all remember this.

Are the kids today that much more destructive or negligent? Or do the textbook companies just demand too much money (it is a bit of a racket - maybe a lot of a racket)?

Or are the schools spending so much on technology they had to sacrifice textbooks. I think it may be time to return to textbooks.

The kids today are overwhelmingly more destructive, and some are even proud to vandalize school property. Very few parents hold their kids accountable for their behavior, or even say "kids will be kids," so kids never learn to respect property.

I am a teacher who issues novels to students 3-4 times each year. On average, 20-30 kids lose or damage their books beyond repair EACH TIME they are issued.

In addition, a number of students vandalize the desks, rip posters off walls in hallways, intentionally dent lockers, break their computers, spill water on others intentionally, and leave trash all over the hallways and classrooms. It is out of control.

I grew up in a different country, where every student has a textbook for every subject except PE. Parents pay tuition including the cost of textbooks. The textbooks are not as luxury as American textbooks. The paper and binding are just the normal, cheap books. Teacher encouraged us to make marks, highlights and notes on the book. I clearly remember one of my teacher told us on the first day of his class:" At the end of this semester, I want to see all of your textbooks become very old and even ripped. You should use it before class, at class and after class. The textbook will be threw into the trash can. The knowledge will be absorbed in your brain."

All the issue the teacher mentioned can be solved. There will be publisher who is willing to print textbooks with cheap paper and binding. Let the market talk. Also, let the parents pay for the textbooks . Sponsor the students from low SES family. Vandalize school property? Pay for it. So easy.

For the bolded? No. The schools won't get involved in anything for fear parents will march in with lawyers and make up reasons why their kid shouldn't have a consequence. Kids can throw scissors in a classroom at other kids and the system doesn't back them up. It's horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of textbooks was the biggest mistake from FCPS

It all comes down to money. I doubt they want to replace half of them every year after they are ripped, defaced, or ruined in the latest classroom destruction incident.

When I was in FCPS (a long time ago) we had textbooks passed down for a number of years. You could see the names written in the front. Covered them in paper bags. I'm sure some number every year went missing or were destroyed by negligent students, but most survived the year. You should all remember this.

Are the kids today that much more destructive or negligent? Or do the textbook companies just demand too much money (it is a bit of a racket - maybe a lot of a racket)?

Or are the schools spending so much on technology they had to sacrifice textbooks. I think it may be time to return to textbooks.

The kids today are overwhelmingly more destructive, and some are even proud to vandalize school property. Very few parents hold their kids accountable for their behavior, or even say "kids will be kids," so kids never learn to respect property.

I am a teacher who issues novels to students 3-4 times each year. On average, 20-30 kids lose or damage their books beyond repair EACH TIME they are issued.

In addition, a number of students vandalize the desks, rip posters off walls in hallways, intentionally dent lockers, break their computers, spill water on others intentionally, and leave trash all over the hallways and classrooms. It is out of control.

+1. As a parent I cannot count the number of times my kids have had to evacuate their own classrooms because some kid was out of control. We try and teach our kids respect for other people's property, but we're only one family. I cannot tell you the stories we've heard from friends who work in schools about kids. If parents want textbooks, they have to parent first.

We're switching to private where the consequences for loosing or damaging a textbook are stringent enough that parents will have to care, but just by being in private they probably care to begin with. I'm not sure there's a way to make parents feel the consequences of their poor parenting without people screaming about equity.

Actually the washed out bullies are being sent to private schools.

[Anonymous]

My 5th grader started laughing at me when I said we used books in school. She can't imagine it. Instead, she has a folder stuffed with packets on the units her teacher is teaching. It's almost impossible to find anything in it.

[Anonymous]

For the posters saying text books are too expensive, do you think all the online sites are for free? FCPS has pays $$$$$ each year (feel free to request FOIA) and separately for all the online sites- clever, Lexia, ST Math and the list goes on… this is not about saving $.

And for the we can’t have nice things, so then explain if kids cannot handle having a book, why is FCPS allowing computers?

[Anonymous]

I just can't imagine it would be THAT expensive to have even math and grammar/spelling workbooks. They are 7.99 at Costco.