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Anonymous wrote:HA! 2013G is fine! 3 didnt show because 2 are moving out of the area and 1 has loudly been so unhappy that she committed to another team a while ago. Just take what you see on her with a grain of salt…many families are happy with Valor- 45+ girls showed up for 2013G tryouts and over 100+ boys showed up for 2013 boys tryouts…do whats best for your kid and dont use this lovely board to decide much.

Only having two teams for 2013g for next fall is a real small age group for valor

2013 only has two age groups this year. Same for 2010 and 2012. It looks like the girls side is overall smaller than the boys side. This makes sense as girls who start in soccer can move over to either lacrosse or field hockey, which is popular in CYA. For boys it’s either lacrosse or staying in soccer.

2 teams for girls 2013,2012 & 2010? Because of CYA field hockey? That sounds like the most made up thing I’ve ever heard. But “A” for effort.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: did CYA and SYA travel soccer have issues before they merged to become valor? Or was this a situation of two not so good clubs coming together to make a bigger not so good club? We have experience with CYA rec soccer and I don’t think they run it very well. It seems like the problem maybe starts there. But have no experience with SYA.

SYA was a very good program. The Valor CYA merger killed the competition of the club. The best SYA coaches are gone. Dont get me wrong there are a few good legacy CYA guys, and they hired 2 decent coaches afterwards. But damage has been done. This starts with CS as he should not be with the young kids. Scares parents and kids away. Once they get to 9v9 fields the development and talent gap become evident. When girls are scared of coach at U9/10 they dont show or really try as hard. To attract better players and keep them in club they have to reverse course on NVA alliance and figure a path to GA or full ECNL status.

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Anonymous wrote:HA! 2013G is fine! 3 didnt show because 2 are moving out of the area and 1 has loudly been so unhappy that she committed to another team a while ago. Just take what you see on her with a grain of salt…many families are happy with Valor- 45+ girls showed up for 2013G tryouts and over 100+ boys showed up for 2013 boys tryouts…do whats best for your kid and dont use this lovely board to decide much.

this will all settleout. Once folks learn how good a coach and person GL is. Hes phenomenal. It will attract players who didnt make other top teams. I just hope he doesnt leave or get yanked by another age group. You will see a dramatic improvement with the girls. He just needs a couple more athletes to add to existing girls to plug some holes.

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Anonymous wrote:Of the 45 girls, any of them come from other travel teams? Or rec? And does that include the girls from the 2 existing teams? Don’t think there is much interest in joining a team with no development, a track record of bad coaching, and 2 wins during the regular season.

PWSI, GFR, Loudon, and BRYC showed up from what I heard. As for the wins/losses, this is a team playing the top teams in the area who have much larger pools to pull from. Unless the kids leaving are making top teams at McLean, Loudon, Arlington or SYC I’m not sure wins and losses are something to point at. Anyone can win in mid-tier NCSL divisions, just look at the Valor 2013G second team. I don’t think they have lost a game all season.

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Anonymous wrote:Of the 45 girls, any of them come from other travel teams? Or rec? And does that include the girls from the 2 existing teams? Don’t think there is much interest in joining a team with no development, a track record of bad coaching, and 2 wins during the regular season.

PWSI, GFR, Loudon, and BRYC showed up from what I heard. As for the wins/losses, this is a team playing the top teams in the area who have much larger pools to pull from. Unless the kids leaving are making top teams at McLean, Loudon, Arlington or SYC I’m not sure wins and losses are something to point at. Anyone can win in mid-tier NCSL divisions, just look at the Valor 2013G second team. I don’t think they have lost a game all season.

We were there and didn't see 45 girls.

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Anyone know what is up with the 2011 boys side? Lots of talk about the girls side. Thinking of trying out from a nearby club but it looks like they are down-grading from 3 to 2 teams so trying out might be a waste of time.

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My son is a long time U13 white player so I feel like I have a good sense of what most people are doing. Our amazing coach is transferring to the girls side and we are all disapointed. I have not heard anyone is leaving and we have a large roster already. There is definitely some third team players good enough to move up (several who are stronger than current white team kids but there is a lot of politics with moving kids down) but I don't think there will be any open spots for them and it looks to everyone like Valor does not care at all about that third team enough to even find a coach before tryouts. My guess is tryout registrations are low and they don't know if they can put a 3rd team together.

Gold team is full -actually over full as they had to play roster games to add a player--and haven't heard anyone is leaving or moving up.

If you are choosing between competing tryouts to attend I would honestly skip this one as right now there don't seem to be any open spots. My kid's spot is safe so I am not trying to deter competition but I honestly don't see how they can add anyone to either of the first two teams at this point, and no one wants to play on the third one with no coach and a hodpotch of random players.

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thanks for the 411

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a long time U13 white player so I feel like I have a good sense of what most people are doing. Our amazing coach is transferring to the girls side and we are all disapointed. I have not heard anyone is leaving and we have a large roster already. There is definitely some third team players good enough to move up (several who are stronger than current white team kids but there is a lot of politics with moving kids down) but I don't think there will be any open spots for them and it looks to everyone like Valor does not care at all about that third team enough to even find a coach before tryouts. My guess is tryout registrations are low and they don't know if they can put a 3rd team together.

Gold team is full -actually over full as they had to play roster games to add a player--and haven't heard anyone is leaving or moving up.

If you are choosing between competing tryouts to attend I would honestly skip this one as right now there don't seem to be any open spots. My kid's spot is safe so I am not trying to deter competition but I honestly don't see how they can add anyone to either of the first two teams at this point, and no one wants to play on the third one with no coach and a hodpotch of random players.

I think it is clear to say that Valor favors the boys teams over the girls.

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Not for that age group-they are moving the best coach from boys to girls
and replacing him with a really young kid. They have hired three coaches for 2011 girls but only 2 for 2011 boys.

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Here is a tip for the Valor administrators, why do you continuously make things harder than it has to be for yourself? You are 2 weeks behind all the other regional teams in tryouts and some have already concluded. With that, they have locked in some of the players you never even saw. Every year, we as parents scratch our heads trying to figure out how you are supposed to grow if you make these same basic mistakes. Tryouts start in late April, not Mid May and you aren't good enough for kids to pass on other clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a tip for the Valor administrators, why do you continuously make things harder than it has to be for yourself? You are 2 weeks behind all the other regional teams in tryouts and some have already concluded. With that, they have locked in some of the players you never even saw. Every year, we as parents scratch our heads trying to figure out how you are supposed to grow if you make these same basic mistakes. Tryouts start in late April, not Mid May and you aren't good enough for kids to pass on other clubs.

+1000

Why hold tryouts for the youngest age group (2016) first and then the older age groups so much later?? The youngest kids are the least likely to be going to other tryouts. They are the families coming from rec to give travel soccer a try for the first time at the place closest to home. You could hold their tryouts last and the numbers wouldn't change.

Top teams are going to fall apart and the idiots at the top will be scratching their heads why. Well because you gave your players 2-3 weeks to go around to all the other tryouts and get offers that they had to decide on before you even started yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Not for that age group-they are moving the best coach from boys to girls
and replacing him with a really young kid. They have hired three coaches for 2011 girls but only 2 for 2011 boys.

About time they give the girls some good coaching.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a tip for the Valor administrators, why do you continuously make things harder than it has to be for yourself? You are 2 weeks behind all the other regional teams in tryouts and some have already concluded. With that, they have locked in some of the players you never even saw. Every year, we as parents scratch our heads trying to figure out how you are supposed to grow if you make these same basic mistakes. Tryouts start in late April, not Mid May and you aren't good enough for kids to pass on other clubs.

dont worry the debacle of FVU it hit the other ECNL teams who had to drop players..which then forced more players into RL. And some other RL players are looking for homes. I suspect they will get some decent kids to show.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a tip for the Valor administrators, why do you continuously make things harder than it has to be for yourself? You are 2 weeks behind all the other regional teams in tryouts and some have already concluded. With that, they have locked in some of the players you never even saw. Every year, we as parents scratch our heads trying to figure out how you are supposed to grow if you make these same basic mistakes. Tryouts start in late April, not Mid May and you aren't good enough for kids to pass on other clubs.

dont worry the debacle of FVU it hit the other ECNL teams who had to drop players..which then forced more players into RL. And some other RL players are looking for homes. I suspect they will get some decent kids to show.

Valor knows it cannot compete with the other teams around here. They are happy to pick up the kids other teams did not pick up for the season.

Look at how other clubs train vs valor. Any kid that is into soccer leaves once they realize valor is a sinking ship for development.