STA anti semitism expulsions

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the trump vibe from sta. Maybe there’s more balance of conserv vs liberal compared to sidwell, gds and maret. But trump republicans? Seems unlikely for wealthy. Educated dc folks.

Yes, many Trump Republicans at STA. Many in recent years being admitted. We were surprised too.

Hopefully, they will be gone soon. However, given the number of families in the DMV who can afford STA — and who are clamoring for spots —it’s a shame these kinds of kids and families are being admitted.

Hope STA admissions ups their game.

I wonder if the lack of diversity in admissions has something to do with the fact that all but one of the admissions staff at STA are white. The one minority is an STA grad.

When you compare the diversity of STA’s admissions staff to Sidwell’s or GDS, you can really see the difference.

Please provide evidence to support this claim.

Honey, go visit the admissions teams at each school. GDS and Sidwell have teams that have significantly more people of color.

Not the point being made. The point was that the non-diverse admissions team yielded non-diverse admissions. I was asking for evidence of the latter, not the former. I have no idea whether it's true or not, but unlike you, I'm not willing to accept it on faith. Sweetie.

Person of color here. Most of us know through experience that an all-white jury is not going to return an objective verdict on a person of color. If you want the statistics on institutionalized racism, start there.

But it's not all white - 20% of the admissions staff is African American. Also, if we're talking about diversity, 40% of the admissions staff is female. I would also point out that the admissions staff has no Latinos or Asians or Native Americans. When the staff is only 5 people, I'm not sure what the expectations should be here. And considering Beauvoir comprises about 30-35% of any given class, perhaps we should look at the diversity of the Beauvoir admissions staff.

I'm a person of color and I just think the point being made is a lazy one that assumes its conclusion without providing any evidence and then ties that conclusion to a simple cause and effect. If STA has a diversity problem (as a parent, I think it does in underrepresented Latinos in the student body as well as a lack of non-white faculty), then discovering the actual cause of the problem is more important then making some knee jerk assumption. If they suddenly hired another person of color on the admissions staff to bring that number to 40%, are you positive it would make a difference?

STA is very diverse ethnically and racially. I’m not thrilled that there are many pro trump families lumped together in certain grades and they seem to be poisoning a few of the grades and having issues, but I didn’t ever say it wasn’t a diverse school overall. Our grade is actually very diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a person of color and I just think the point being made is a lazy one that assumes its conclusion without providing any evidence and then ties that conclusion to a simple cause and effect. If STA has a diversity problem (as a parent, I think it does in underrepresented Latinos in the student body as well as a lack of non-white faculty), then discovering the actual cause of the problem is more important then making some knee jerk assumption. If they suddenly hired another person of color on the admissions staff to bring that number to 40%, are you positive it would make a difference?

Why does PP have to be positive that it would make a difference? Companies, organizations, etc. make hiring decisions all the time without concrete proof of how prospective employees will do their jobs. But they play the odds based on circumstantial evidence, like resumes and job interviews. With that in mind, I don't think it's a stretch to think that the odds of a more diverse student body at a private school would be higher with a more diverse admissions office.

Except now you're making this judgment based solely on the race of the candidate. Why is that ok? Isn't that an illegal hiring decision? It seems that if you're basing a hiring decision on circumstantial evidence, like resumes and job interviews, that the candidate doesn't have to be a person of color. What if a white candidate came in with a track record of increasing diversity and had concrete ideas on how to attract more diverse applicants or ideas on how to get accepted students to matriculate - wouldn't you want to hire them? Conversely, if Clarence Thomas resigned from the S. Ct. and took a job at STA admissions, are the odds higher or lower on that yielding a more diverse student body?

Diversity and the belief in the virtue of diversity are not beliefs limited only to people of color. I don't care how we get there or who helps get us there.

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Many companies and organizations try to increase the diversity of their workforce all the time without breaking the law. It's not that hard.

Also, citing Clarence Thomas to prove your point seems desperate. Why would STA hire him in the first place if they vetted his resume and interviewed him properly to ascertain his views about the role of diversity in admissions?

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The head of admissions at STA is a waspy white guy. He extremely professional and nice but he is straight out of central casting for wealthy, white, preppy, privilege.
In contrast the head of admissions at Sidwell and GDS are both black women.

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Anonymous wrote:The head of admissions at STA is a waspy white guy. He extremely professional and nice but he is straight out of central casting for wealthy, white, preppy, privilege.
In contrast the head of admissions at Sidwell and GDS are both black women.

This is so ridiculous. I’m not thrilled about a few of the kids he’s brought in but he’s a good guy and a nice guy and this is such a ridiculous statement. And Sidwell has its own issues And I did not connect with their admissions staff or feel like they had any interest in making any attempt to connect with us. Btw STA is almost 35-40 percent diverse and has a lot of Catholic kids and other religions as well and many students receive financial aid. The stereotypes of it being just white and waspy are outdated and incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:The head of admissions at STA is a waspy white guy. He extremely professional and nice but he is straight out of central casting for wealthy, white, preppy, privilege.
In contrast the head of admissions at Sidwell and GDS are both black women.

So what's your point? That he can't value diversity?

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Earlier I removed several posts that attempted to hijack this thread about anti-Semitic incidents and turn it into a discussion about anti-Catholicism. Now it appears to have been successfully hijacked to be about diversity and people of color. If there is nothing left to be said about the anti-Semitic incidents, I will lock the thread. If there are things to be said, please say them. But let's please leave other discussions out of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the trump vibe from sta. Maybe there’s more balance of conserv vs liberal compared to sidwell, gds and maret. But trump republicans? Seems unlikely for wealthy. Educated dc folks.

Yes, many Trump Republicans at STA. Many in recent years being admitted. We were surprised too.

Hopefully, they will be gone soon. However, given the number of families in the DMV who can afford STA — and who are clamoring for spots —it’s a shame these kinds of kids and families are being admitted.

Hope STA admissions ups their game.

Listen to yourself. Trump was elected as President of the United States. Millions of people voted for him for a huge variety of reasons. Somehow that makes them and their children unworthy to be at an elite private school? My DS is in the US and I can assure you that I have heard of inappropriate jokes and memes coming from a variety of kids, including URMs and liberals. As much as parents don't want to admit it, teenagers like to shock people with their behavior. Right now, one of the best ways to shock people is to say something against the PC narrative. People like the PP are the big reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the trump vibe from sta. Maybe there’s more balance of conserv vs liberal compared to sidwell, gds and maret. But trump republicans? Seems unlikely for wealthy. Educated dc folks.

Yes, many Trump Republicans at STA. Many in recent years being admitted. We were surprised too.

Hopefully, they will be gone soon. However, given the number of families in the DMV who can afford STA — and who are clamoring for spots —it’s a shame these kinds of kids and families are being admitted.

Hope STA admissions ups their game.

I wonder if the lack of diversity in admissions has something to do with the fact that all but one of the admissions staff at STA are white. The one minority is an STA grad.

When you compare the diversity of STA’s admissions staff to Sidwell’s or GDS, you can really see the difference.

You are clueless. STA has 38% students of color. GDS has 39%. You are conflating things that are unrelated.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the trump vibe from sta. Maybe there’s more balance of conserv vs liberal compared to sidwell, gds and maret. But trump republicans? Seems unlikely for wealthy. Educated dc folks.

Yes, many Trump Republicans at STA. Many in recent years being admitted. We were surprised too.

Hopefully, they will be gone soon. However, given the number of families in the DMV who can afford STA — and who are clamoring for spots —it’s a shame these kinds of kids and families are being admitted.

Hope STA admissions ups their game.

Listen to yourself. Trump was elected as President of the United States. Millions of people voted for him for a huge variety of reasons. Somehow that makes them and their children unworthy to be at an elite private school? My DS is in the US and I can assure you that I have heard of inappropriate jokes and memes coming from a variety of kids, including URMs and liberals. As much as parents don't want to admit it, teenagers like to shock people with their behavior. Right now, one of the best ways to shock people is to say something against the PC narrative. People like the PP are the big reason.

I don’t know. I was a bratty teen and I never made racial jokes. I now have a teen that can give us an attitude here and there but he never makes racist jokes or uses racist memes. Not only does HE know it is wrong, he also knows we as a family believe it is wrong. So there’s your answer. People like you seem to excuse it while people like me don’t. The results show what works.

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One of the things that many people seem to be getting wrong is the belief that the boy came from a family that was very conservative and had anti semitic beliefs. That is wrong and nobody should tie political views into this situation. The boy made an immature mistake, and to my understanding, he didn't even make the "anti semitic" pictures. The reason he was expelled was for circulating these images throughout group chats and such. Boys at that age can be very immature and can make terrible choices.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the things that many people seem to be getting wrong is the belief that the boy came from a family that was very conservative and had anti semitic beliefs. That is wrong and nobody should tie political views into this situation. The boy made an immature mistake, and to my understanding, he didn't even make the "anti semitic" pictures. The reason he was expelled was for circulating these images throughout group chats and such. Boys at that age can be very immature and can make terrible choices.

I agree. Many people need to understand that this situation has nothing to do with political beliefs. Just an immature kid who made some dumb decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here. First I want to say that I have had the pleasure to be friends with several STA parents, and to know their sons, and they were exemplary representations of the School and its community. Discrimination, like cheating, drug abuse, bullying, child abuse, and sexual harassment, are scourges that unfortunately can and do occur at ALL schools, private and public. (For one example, please Google the offensive, grotesque meme scandal that resulted in several students from across the country having their college admissions offers rescinded just last year.)

I would like to address one poster's claim that the School admits too many students of a certain type or background. I have no idea whether that is true or not, and do not want to cast aspersions on any officer. It is always worth asking oneself, however, whether a community to which you belong is making a strong effort at inclusiveness and diversity of all types, including viewpoints and thoughts.

I have two children currently at GDS, and their older, college-age sibling who attended another Big 3 school is openly gay. Being at GDS, my children have African American friends, openly LGBTQ friends, friends from different socioeconomic backgrounds, ethnicities, and religions. Walking among and with others, sharing bread together, being friends, really helps you consider the things you think and the preconceptions you may have, and helps with moral growth.

This is very true. It's like the 'old power - new power' dynamic/transformation. STA seems quite old power, whereas the GDS culture represents 21st century new power.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the things that many people seem to be getting wrong is the belief that the boy came from a family that was very conservative and had anti semitic beliefs. That is wrong and nobody should tie political views into this situation. The boy made an immature mistake, and to my understanding, he didn't even make the "anti semitic" pictures. The reason he was expelled was for circulating these images throughout group chats and such. Boys at that age can be very immature and can make terrible choices.

I agree. Many people need to understand that this situation has nothing to do with political beliefs. Just an immature kid who made some dumb decisions.

Was there really not more too it than sharing some anti-Semitic pictures? I don't mean to trivialize that, but I wouldn't expect expulsion if there weren't more too I - either in this incident and/or a history of issues.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the things that many people seem to be getting wrong is the belief that the boy came from a family that was very conservative and had anti semitic beliefs. That is wrong and nobody should tie political views into this situation. The boy made an immature mistake, and to my understanding, he didn't even make the "anti semitic" pictures. The reason he was expelled was for circulating these images throughout group chats and such. Boys at that age can be very immature and can make terrible choices.

I agree. Many people need to understand that this situation has nothing to do with political beliefs. Just an immature kid who made some dumb decisions.

Was there really not more too it than sharing some anti-Semitic pictures? I don't mean to trivialize that, but I wouldn't expect expulsion if there weren't more too I - either in this incident and/or a history of issues.

yep, the school expelled him to send a message to the student body that anti-semitic "memes" and pictures are unacceptable.