Heroin epidemic?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach every time I think about this. In some rural communities, it is so widespread - think of all the children of these addicts. What is their future? We desperately need to do something about this problem, but what?

It seems not to be so simple as educating doctors (so that they don't over-prescribe opioids as pain meds). So what next?

Wow - it's almost like we need a war on drugs/crime, except it's fashionable right now to hate the war on drugs/crime.

It's in fashion to promote legalizing more and more types of drugs, and throw open the doors of our prisons so convicted criminals can be free to victimize the innocent. And vote - we need more criminals voting in our elections.

What is happening in America is total insanity.

I agree. I'm a prosecutor. Drug crimes go so far beyond just "drug crimes." Sure, there are lots of crimes committed under controlled substance act statutes, but nearly every other kind of crime is somehow tied to drugs. Thefts. Shoplifting. Stealing cars. Stealing guns. Assaults. Child endangerment. Murder. I would estimate that 90% of the crimes that come through my office are rooted in drug use. The drug epidemic is real and it is happeneing in every community.

I am actually in PA so I don't know if this is happening in DC, but we are seeing a lot of heroin that is laced with fentanyl, which is an extremely potent narcotic. We have had a huge spike in overdoses because people are getting this fentanyl-laced heroin and doing the amount of the drug that they are used to, not realizing it's cut with something so potent. And then they die.

where in pa are you? I'm in pa and I am not seeing that stuff. Are you in western pa? All the fentanyl stories (i linked up a bunch on here) are from ohio.

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Anonymous wrote:My son in law is a heroin addict. 6 relapses I'm 3 years. Binges for a few months goes to rehab and it all starts over.
Scary thing his parents buy it even though they are not addicts at all, don't even drink. Just want him happy
Then they pay for rehab each time. My daughter won't talk to be about it. I feel so helpless

you didn't raise your daughter to screen men well, did you?

They are in their 30 he was wonderful up until the last 3 years. Lost his job and started using

If you are communication with the parents, see if they can get him on Vivitrol injections. There truly are very few effective rehabs.

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Anonymous wrote:been happening for along time, things most parents don't think about when they turn a blind eye to casual drinking a pot smoking and then kids try to reach that original high and can never reach it so they turn to other things.

sure, argue alcohol and pot are harmless or your kid can handle it as long as they get good grades etc. Many other parents thought the same, fortunately I got help and i was just like your kids from the W schools and private schools.

Signed a recovering addict

Thus the heroin epidemics in Colorado and Washington and Oregon, right? All that legalized pot in OH, PA and WVA and MD must be pushing users for more more more.

Yes, WA has a huge heroin epidemic. I live in the eastern suburbs of Seattle - home to Microsoft, Google, Amazon techies and high HHI families. Three students in a 1400 student high school died in 2016. Heroin and meth are also issues for the lower class rural communities.

http://www.kirklandreporter.com/news/384106411.html

But the good news is that the tax payers in Seattle will soon fund safe shoot up locations.

I lived in bellevue - bridle trails. the eastern suburbs are high HHI but still feel more 'hick' than NaRL and close in Montco. I can bet you heroin is NOT hitting the indian or chinese community there though nearly as much.

[Anonymous]

https://www.amazon.com/Dreamland-True-Americas-Opiate-Epidemic/dp/1620402521

must read book for those interested in this phenomenon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guess what ? This middle aged white guy says ' let them die' . The white folks whose kids are dying of heroin today are the kids of the white people whose parents in the 80s and 90s couldn't be fucking bothered because their deep seated racism had them beating up on politicians and the justice system calling for tougher enforcement , harsher prison sentences , and what not . These junkies deserve the same level of compassion and empathy that was shown to 'other people'.

You wanna know why this country is seating on a ticking time bomb and why race relations are where they are? Look no further than the double standard that some of you are trying to apply here. Tell you what , these junkies ain't no victims and some of us deserve or better yet are entitled to roam the streets freely without stumbling on your kids pills and needles . The same arguments used to describe junkies of the 80s apply to junkies of these years. Failure to recognize that makes you a racist , either you view yourself as such or not is a moot point

For much of this country's history too many whites have looked at every problem under the 'us vs them' prism . This so- called heroin epidemic is the logical result of the hubris, arrogance and calculated indifference that whites have shown for 'others' combined with that superiority complex that has had even if the so-called liberals believing that they and their precious snowflakes are above the Frey . Is it any wonder why these geniuses are in denial about their snowflakes junky statuses even after they've buried them ? Talk about spiritual bankruptcy .

Let them die

Signed 59 year old white man

THIS. THIS. THIS.

Chickens coming home to roost.

Fuck you and your druggie children.

[Anonymous]

http://www.unz.com/jpetras/genocide-by-prescription-the-natural-history-of-the-declining-white-working-class-in-america/

a combination of economic, political, social, and personal failure.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.amazon.com/Dreamland-True-Americas-Opiate-Epidemic/dp/1620402521

must read book for those interested in this phenomenon

Oh wow! Now we gotta buy books too to read about junkies, as if what our eyes are seeing is not enough

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.amazon.com/Dreamland-True-Americas-Opiate-Epidemic/dp/1620402521

must read book for those interested in this phenomenon

Oh wow! Now we gotta buy books too to read about junkies, as if what our eyes are seeing is not enough

HAHA I had the same thought.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really tough and striking to see how much sympathy and understanding there is for this most recent drug crisis now that the face of addiction is white.

It has been white for along time, people just had the resources to hide it and pretend it isn't there. You do have a good point but also add in this, when it is black people, it isn't an addiction, it is crackheads, junkies etc.

Nailed it.

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Sorry, for me this isn't about white or black, it's about my child. I don't care about what the press writes about or what the chattering classes chat about. I don't count on government to help--heck, I don't even count on my child's doctor to help. No one will every care about my child as I do. Parents with a drug addicted child need to realize that whether their child makes it through or not very well may depend on them.

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Lots of middle and upper class kids in MOCO are using Heroin. It is not just a poor "white trash" problem.

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My friends kid was hooked as a young teen (15-16 ish). Nothing the parents tried would help-rehabs, grounding, among other punishments. The dad finally and literally stayed with the kid 24/7. He slept with her (innocent of course), ate every meal with her, took her to work with him every day, and pretty much never left her side. She got off it and is now an adult doing well in her career and is married with a kid of her own. They drink a lot, but function well. They seem to drink heavily on week-ends mostly. At least she is not dead as it was bad at the time and heading in that direction.

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When people of color were the center of the controversy surrounding the problem of drug abuse and addiction all the armchair experts were quick to cite single parent homes and absentee fathers and hip hop culture and the overall lack of responsibility and morality throughout the entire minority community as the reason.
"They bring it on themselves" was the overwhelming sentiment which paved the way for apathy and criminalization over empathy and rehabilitation.
So what's the excuse for the problem now that whites are at the center of things?
Are there no parallels in terms of poor parenting and reprehensible values at play?
Are those factors not feasible for white folks is that why the reaction is not similar with regards to taking the approach of empathy and rehabilitation over apathy and criminalization
What's so different about this epidemic besides the fact that it's not centered around minorities that demands we treat it differently?
What's the excuse for white folks since it obviously can't be their family structure and values and parenting skills?
I'm just curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My friends kid was hooked as a young teen (15-16 ish). Nothing the parents tried would help-rehabs, grounding, among other punishments. The dad finally and literally stayed with the kid 24/7. He slept with her (innocent of course), ate every meal with her, took her to work with him every day, and pretty much never left her side. She got off it and is now an adult doing well in her career and is married with a kid of her own. They drink a lot, but function well. They seem to drink heavily on week-ends mostly. At least she is not dead as it was bad at the time and heading in that direction.

In my book, the father was a hero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of middle and upper class kids in MOCO are using Heroin. It is not just a poor "white trash" problem.

Yup.