Is the future of higher ed in the South?

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

That's just because it was lower numbers to begin with. Basic math. People are applying to more schools and Tennessee has more room to grow.

You missed the part about a statistical increase. Tennessee is in conversations today that would have never occurred pre-covid. And Tennessee isn’t even a top SEC school like UF and UGA.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

So they are up to 57,000 applicants which was 15% growth over last year amd down from 40% growth the previous year. That is for 7,000 slots.

More accurately, UT Knoxville is now finally as popular as UMD college Park (and again…barely ahead of Yale which also had a 10% increase in applications).

Had UMd grown or declined?

Grown. From 32,000 in 2019 to 56,000.

Fairly similar to UT though not quite (29,000 to 57,000), but a much smaller school 18,000 vs 28,000 undergrads.

Five years ago nobody on this board would believe Tennessee is now keeping pace with UMD.

Honestly, I would have thought that way more people would apply to Tenn than MD considering it is double the size.

I would think way more people than 55,000 applied to Alabama considering it is 2.5x the size of UMD.

I am more surprised at UMD’s popularity.

What are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

That's just because it was lower numbers to begin with. Basic math. People are applying to more schools and Tennessee has more room to grow.

You missed the part about a statistical increase. Tennessee is in conversations today that would have never occurred pre-covid. And Tennessee isn’t even a top SEC school like UF and UGA.

It literally seems to only be in conversations started by you.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

So they are up to 57,000 applicants which was 15% growth over last year amd down from 40% growth the previous year. That is for 7,000 slots.

More accurately, UT Knoxville is now finally as popular as UMD college Park (and again…barely ahead of Yale which also had a 10% increase in applications).

Had UMd grown or declined?

Grown. From 32,000 in 2019 to 56,000.

Fairly similar to UT though not quite (29,000 to 57,000), but a much smaller school 18,000 vs 28,000 undergrads.

Five years ago nobody on this board would believe Tennessee is now keeping pace with UMD.

Honestly, I would have thought that way more people would apply to Tenn than MD considering it is double the size.

I would think way more people than 55,000 applied to Alabama considering it is 2.5x the size of UMD.

I am more surprised at UMD’s popularity.

What are you talking about?

Can you not read? I can’t help with your comprehension abilities.

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And when ob/gyns and ER docs start leaving these states due to the draconian laws

As well as professors who are being censored

Nope, no thanks

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

So they are up to 57,000 applicants which was 15% growth over last year amd down from 40% growth the previous year. That is for 7,000 slots.

More accurately, UT Knoxville is now finally as popular as UMD college Park (and again…barely ahead of Yale which also had a 10% increase in applications).

Had UMd grown or declined?

Grown. From 32,000 in 2019 to 56,000.

Fairly similar to UT though not quite (29,000 to 57,000), but a much smaller school 18,000 vs 28,000 undergrads.

Five years ago nobody on this board would believe Tennessee is now keeping pace with UMD.

Honestly, I would have thought that way more people would apply to Tenn than MD considering it is double the size.

I would think way more people than 55,000 applied to Alabama considering it is 2.5x the size of UMD.

I am more surprised at UMD’s popularity.

What are you talking about?

Can you not read? I can’t help with your comprehension abilities.

Can you respond without attacking people? By size are you talking about acreage?

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Normal kids aren’t looking for violence on their college campuses. Plain and simple.

I do agree with this, but I can't see either of my girls going south. Maybe Florida.

Where do you think that is?

Florida is special. It’s hard to be a nasty person when you have sunny skies and gorgeous beaches most of the time. That’s why we’re moving there.

You will find that Florida is full of nasty people despite its sunny skies and gorgeous beaches.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Yeah that’s everything Bari Weiss does. She’s a human trend article full of anecdotes.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

That's just because it was lower numbers to begin with. Basic math. People are applying to more schools and Tennessee has more room to grow.

You missed the part about a statistical increase. Tennessee is in conversations today that would have never occurred pre-covid. And Tennessee isn’t even a top SEC school like UF and UGA.

It literally seems to only be in conversations started by you.

Did you forget about the 50,000+ kids that applied?

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

So they are up to 57,000 applicants which was 15% growth over last year amd down from 40% growth the previous year. That is for 7,000 slots.

More accurately, UT Knoxville is now finally as popular as UMD college Park (and again…barely ahead of Yale which also had a 10% increase in applications).

Had UMd grown or declined?

Grown. From 32,000 in 2019 to 56,000.

Fairly similar to UT though not quite (29,000 to 57,000), but a much smaller school 18,000 vs 28,000 undergrads.

Five years ago nobody on this board would believe Tennessee is now keeping pace with UMD.

Honestly, I would have thought that way more people would apply to Tenn than MD considering it is double the size.

I would think way more people than 55,000 applied to Alabama considering it is 2.5x the size of UMD.

I am more surprised at UMD’s popularity.

What are you talking about?

Can you not read? I can’t help with your comprehension abilities.

Can you respond without attacking people? By size are you talking about acreage?

Size as in number of students.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

What is so bananas about sending your kid to FSU for about $20k (b/c they offer good merit). FSU is ranked in the mid 50s. You can't go to school in VA for $20k in-state.

Yes, you can - GMU, JMU, VCU, and the tuition alone at VA Tech, W&M, is less than 20K. I'd put anyone of those schools over FSU. I'm sure FSU is fine but it is not "the future of higher ed".
and no, most kids won't go to FSU from OOS for $20K anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

So they are up to 57,000 applicants which was 15% growth over last year amd down from 40% growth the previous year. That is for 7,000 slots.

More accurately, UT Knoxville is now finally as popular as UMD college Park (and again…barely ahead of Yale which also had a 10% increase in applications).

Had UMd grown or declined?

Grown. From 32,000 in 2019 to 56,000.

Fairly similar to UT though not quite (29,000 to 57,000), but a much smaller school 18,000 vs 28,000 undergrads.

Five years ago nobody on this board would believe Tennessee is now keeping pace with UMD.

Honestly, I would have thought that way more people would apply to Tenn than MD considering it is double the size.

I would think way more people than 55,000 applied to Alabama considering it is 2.5x the size of UMD.

I am more surprised at UMD’s popularity.

What are you talking about?

Can you not read? I can’t help with your comprehension abilities.

Can you respond without attacking people? By size are you talking about acreage?

Size as in number of students.

Total students:
UMD: 41,000
UTK: 36,000
UA: 38,000

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Anonymous wrote:Quality of life at places like Auburn, Alabama, and George is insane. Gorgeous weather, gorgeous people.

Not sure if you actually grew up in the south or not but I don't know if you'd describe Alabama or Georgia as "gorgeous". Morbid obesity is a huge problem across the South.
Sure, there are some good looking people but you could go to CA or CO for more physically fit people.

I meant the Universities dipsh*t. What, I have to literally spell that out for you?

Um, moron, I did go to school in the south. I know precisely what I'm talking about. And no, the entire student populations are not "gorgeous". You may be confusing a singular sorority with the entire school population.

My original comment stands. I think the student population at Boulder is likely in better shape than Bama or UGA

You think Boulder potheads are in good shape?

Weird comment. Yes, CO smokes a lot of weed. But so do students at UF, Texas, UGA, Bama, and other schools. And they drink a ton. They also do copious amounts of drugs. So I'd say that Austin and Boulder are on par with the drug taking - having spent time in both.

But yes, in general, the CO weed-smoking drinkers were fitter than the ATX weed-smoking drinkers due to the fact that the CO kids were always out hiking, boarding, biking, snowshoeing and doing perpetual mountain stuff that is sorely lacking in other parts of the country. I will definitely give points to Colorado kids for that. I wish we had a culture of fitness in the south. Sadly, we do not.

The football coach at CO complained about the smell of pot in the stadium. That is not happening anywhere else. Gross.

Downtown DC smells of pot. It is happening everywhere else.

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One kid said they would not attend a school in the south and the other came to the same conclusion. We looked at schools and the first one announced it half way through the visit.

I get the weather and all that, yet that may not be the only factor some kids consider.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

So they are up to 57,000 applicants which was 15% growth over last year amd down from 40% growth the previous year. That is for 7,000 slots.

More accurately, UT Knoxville is now finally as popular as UMD college Park (and again…barely ahead of Yale which also had a 10% increase in applications).

Had UMd grown or declined?

Grown. From 32,000 in 2019 to 56,000.

Fairly similar to UT though not quite (29,000 to 57,000), but a much smaller school 18,000 vs 28,000 undergrads.

Five years ago nobody on this board would believe Tennessee is now keeping pace with UMD.

Honestly, I would have thought that way more people would apply to Tenn than MD considering it is double the size.

I would think way more people than 55,000 applied to Alabama considering it is 2.5x the size of UMD.

I am more surprised at UMD’s popularity.

What are you talking about?

Can you not read? I can’t help with your comprehension abilities.

Can you respond without attacking people? By size are you talking about acreage?

Size as in number of students.

Total students:
UMD: 41,000
UTK: 36,000
UA: 38,000

That includes grad students.

UMD has 30,000 undergrads, UTK has 29,000 and UAlabama has 32,000.

UMD received 56,000 applications for a freshman class of 4500…but transfers make up the delta. That’s why the 18,000 number is off.