"Flagship" is a better bet than an upper-tier private college, according to Bloomberg.

[Anonymous]

I saw this from Jake Perez, an editor at LinkedIn News. The main topic was about Harvard starting to require SAT scores again.

The part about public flagships is not what I expected to read!

"For students who can get in, Ivy League schools have the highest return on investment a decade out from enrollment.
For those who don't get accepted, a public "flagship" university is a better bet than an upper-tier private college, according to a Bloomberg analysis."

[Anonymous]

Is that surprising to you? Public flagships are often R1 institutions with a wealth of academic power. Top tier privates generally cannot match that.

[Anonymous]

Great so I’ll just make sure my kids get into UVA. Easy peazy. 🙄🙄🙄

[Anonymous]

I think a definition of "upper-tier" private college is needed, because there aren't actually tiers of colleges.

Are they saying that on average, students at flagships do better than students at T100s that aren't Ivies? Are they defining "college" as the first 4 years at any college or university or are they saying LAC's only?

Are they saying that MIT is worse than Ole Miss?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great so I’ll just make sure my kids get into UVA. Easy peazy. 🙄🙄🙄

You have 49 other flagships to choose from

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think a definition of "upper-tier" private college is needed, because there aren't actually tiers of colleges.

Are they saying that on average, students at flagships do better than students at T100s that aren't Ivies? Are they defining "college" as the first 4 years at any college or university or are they saying LAC's only?

Are they saying that MIT is worse than Ole Miss?

This. MIT is not an ivy nor is Stanford. If you want to include LACs, Williams and Harvey Mudd grads are going to out earn University of Idaho or Missou grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great so I’ll just make sure my kids get into UVA. Easy peazy. 🙄🙄🙄

You have 49 other flagships to choose from

The article is about ROI. UVA at 40k has a better ROI than Michigan at 70k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great so I’ll just make sure my kids get into UVA. Easy peazy. 🙄🙄🙄

You have 49 other flagships to choose from

The article is about ROI. UVA at 40k has a better ROI than Michigan at 70k

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think a definition of "upper-tier" private college is needed, because there aren't actually tiers of colleges.

Are they saying that on average, students at flagships do better than students at T100s that aren't Ivies? Are they defining "college" as the first 4 years at any college or university or are they saying LAC's only?

Are they saying that MIT is worse than Ole Miss?

No, if you read the article and look at the data/graphs, you will see that the Ivy plus or top 20ish schools have similar outcomes to the Ivies. They have data for hundreds of colleges that you can compare outcomes/ROI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great so I’ll just make sure my kids get into UVA. Easy peazy. 🙄🙄🙄

You have 49 other flagships to choose from

Yes and OOS at most of them will be about as costly as an upper tier private

[Anonymous]

Article wasn't linked

[Anonymous]

I think the term “flagship” is misleading. For instance, University of New Mexico is a flagship, yet I doubt many will be clamoring to go there. Same with University of Alaska-Fairbanks, etc. There are a lot of state universities that are excellent and aren’t necessarily the “flagship.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a definition of "upper-tier" private college is needed, because there aren't actually tiers of colleges.

Are they saying that on average, students at flagships do better than students at T100s that aren't Ivies? Are they defining "college" as the first 4 years at any college or university or are they saying LAC's only?

Are they saying that MIT is worse than Ole Miss?

No, if you read the article and look at the data/graphs, you will see that the Ivy plus or top 20ish schools have similar outcomes to the Ivies. They have data for hundreds of colleges that you can compare outcomes/ROI.

Isn't that the opposite of the thread's title?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the term “flagship” is misleading. For instance, University of New Mexico is a flagship, yet I doubt many will be clamoring to go there. Same with University of Alaska-Fairbanks, etc. There are a lot of state universities that are excellent and aren’t necessarily the “flagship.”

Flagship just denotes the primary campus in a state's university system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the term “flagship” is misleading. For instance, University of New Mexico is a flagship, yet I doubt many will be clamoring to go there. Same with University of Alaska-Fairbanks, etc. There are a lot of state universities that are excellent and aren’t necessarily the “flagship.”

Flagship just denotes the primary campus in a state's university system.

I’m aware. And it’s still misleading.