"Flagship" is a better bet than an upper-tier private college, according to Bloomberg.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course flagships are better for those who didn't get in to a top private college. Because they didn't get in!

Work with what you got!

Also, so many great colleges. There is no one right way to go.

Come on, idiot. Donut hole families often forgo private colleges for state flagships undergrad.

We aren't paying $85-90k for the T10-T20s my son was accepted to this year. We did the math. We looked at the outcomes. Not worth it for us.

I work with 4 Ivy grads and 3 state flagship alum like me. We all had the identical post-grad outcomes and are making the same 30 years later. I started with all of them at age 30. In fact, they report to me.

My son also went on admitted events to the two T10s and the T20 and likes are in-state better. win-win.

This post reads like you are making it up as you type it. “Wait it sounds better if I say they work for me too!”

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Anonymous wrote:Of course flagships are better for those who didn't get in to a top private college. Because they didn't get in!

Work with what you got!

Also, so many great colleges. There is no one right way to go.

Come on, idiot. Donut hole families often forgo private colleges for state flagships undergrad.

We aren't paying $85-90k for the T10-T20s my son was accepted to this year. We did the math. We looked at the outcomes. Not worth it for us.

I work with 4 Ivy grads and 3 state flagship alum like me. We all had the identical post-grad outcomes and are making the same 30 years later. I started with all of them at age 30. In fact, they report to me.

My son also went on admitted events to the two T10s and the T20 and likes are in-state better. win-win.

Why the name calling? I was only quoting the OP's absurd syntax and pointing out how ridiculous it is to make a statement about how schools where kids got in are better for them than schools where they didn't.

I know full well many kids choose a state school for finances. That's why I said "so many great colleges. There is no one right way to go."

Read before you insult next time. Or, better yet, maybe just refrain from insults altogether.

Also, you have to be making like 250/300k+ to be in a "donut hole" w/ Ivies. Not much of a donut hole from my middle class perspective. More of finance preference, which is fine too.

Are you saying they give significant aid to anyone making <$250/300K? Not based on what I have heard.

Could be a little but could be significant. Depends on your assets. Most cap or don't include primary home values, so that doesn't factor in much (of course, any other property would count, but I know someone who had a 2nd home from inheritance and still got good aid at Columbia). Also, if you have split/blended households or med expenses or kid in private school or kid in college that result in more. I know a couple in this range. One got 45-55k aid at LACs (also had significant health costs), another got 53k at Ivy (blended household with 3 in college).

Don't believe hearsay. Work the net price calculators and see for yourself.

I thought the cost of younger kids in private K-12 schools or other kids in college wouldn't be considered...Is that just FAFSA?

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As an individual who resided in the Midwest, corporates here tend to hire local students. If you Lilly you will hire a kid from IU or Purdue, Bank of Oklahoma from University of Oklahoma, Cargill from University of Iowa, John Deere from University of Illinois, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Great so I’ll just make sure my kids get into UVA. Easy peazy. 🙄🙄🙄

You have 49 other flagships to choose from

Yes and OOS at most of them will be about as costly as an upper tier private

Wrong. OOS flagships like to recruit from other areas, and offer a lot of merit aid. Some are more affordable than instate.

What are you talking about? The UCs, Michigan, University of Washington, UIUC, University of Georgia, UT Austin, UVA, UNC, UF….are not handing out merit aid to OOs residents, they just aren’t.

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My observation is that most of Ivy rejects don't get into private T20 either, usually flagships or T50 are their top choices.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw this from Jake Perez, an editor at LinkedIn News. The main topic was about Harvard starting to require SAT scores again.

The part about public flagships is not what I expected to read!

"For students who can get in, Ivy League schools have the highest return on investment a decade out from enrollment.
For those who don't get accepted, a public "flagship" university is a better bet than an upper-tier private college, according to a Bloomberg analysis."

Wouldn't regional colleges with full rides be even better value?

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Anonymous wrote:Great so I’ll just make sure my kids get into UVA. Easy peazy. 🙄🙄🙄

You have 49 other flagships to choose from

Yes and OOS at most of them will be about as costly as an upper tier private

Nope - Upper tier private full pay is $85 - 90K. Flagship is $60K. That's over a 100K over four years which isn't insignificant. Plus OOS flagship more likely to provide merit aid to high achievers and the upper tier private [Amherst, Williams, etc.] not so much, making the delta even more.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course flagships are better for those who didn't get in to a top private college. Because they didn't get in!

Work with what you got!

Also, so many great colleges. There is no one right way to go.

Come on, idiot. Donut hole families often forgo private colleges for state flagships undergrad.

We aren't paying $85-90k for the T10-T20s my son was accepted to this year. We did the math. We looked at the outcomes. Not worth it for us.

I work with 4 Ivy grads and 3 state flagship alum like me. We all had the identical post-grad outcomes and are making the same 30 years later. I started with all of them at age 30. In fact, they report to me.

My son also went on admitted events to the two T10s and the T20 and likes are in-state better. win-win.

Why the name calling? I was only quoting the OP's absurd syntax and pointing out how ridiculous it is to make a statement about how schools where kids got in are better for them than schools where they didn't.

I know full well many kids choose a state school for finances. That's why I said "so many great colleges. There is no one right way to go."

Read before you insult next time. Or, better yet, maybe just refrain from insults altogether.

Also, you have to be making like 250/300k+ to be in a "donut hole" w/ Ivies. Not much of a donut hole from my middle class perspective. More of finance preference, which is fine too.

Are you saying they give significant aid to anyone making <$250/300K? Not based on what I have heard.

Could be a little but could be significant. Depends on your assets. Most cap or don't include primary home values, so that doesn't factor in much (of course, any other property would count, but I know someone who had a 2nd home from inheritance and still got good aid at Columbia). Also, if you have split/blended households or med expenses or kid in private school or kid in college that result in more. I know a couple in this range. One got 45-55k aid at LACs (also had significant health costs), another got 53k at Ivy (blended household with 3 in college).

Don't believe hearsay. Work the net price calculators and see for yourself.

I thought the cost of younger kids in private K-12 schools or other kids in college wouldn't be considered...Is that just FAFSA?

That isn't on FAFSA, only CSS. It depends on the school as to how/whether they factor it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course flagships are better for those who didn't get in to a top private college. Because they didn't get in!

Work with what you got!

Also, so many great colleges. There is no one right way to go.

Come on, idiot. Donut hole families often forgo private colleges for state flagships undergrad.

We aren't paying $85-90k for the T10-T20s my son was accepted to this year. We did the math. We looked at the outcomes. Not worth it for us.

I work with 4 Ivy grads and 3 state flagship alum like me. We all had the identical post-grad outcomes and are making the same 30 years later. I started with all of them at age 30. In fact, they report to me.

My son also went on admitted events to the two T10s and the T20 and likes are in-state better. win-win.

Lol, "they report to me." Many of these people with no education had to sell their soul to move up.