7/24/23 Trial of Usman Shahid -- driver who killed two Oakton teens

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He was offered 5 years and with a plea deal you only do 65 percent of the time so he would of done 2 years and a month good behavior 2 years tops

What is the source? I have not seen this before but it lines up with expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:He was offered 5 years and with a plea deal you only do 65 percent of the time so he would of done 2 years and a month good behavior 2 years tops

Wow. 2 years for killing 2 people and destroying their families? Disgusting. That's not justice.

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Anonymous wrote:Men who harm young girls do not fare well in prison.

What nonsense? He was an inexperienced high school teen driver who tragically hit pedestrians in a crash, not a criminal rapist or pedo harming you g girls. This is insane.

Excuse me? You omitted that he was driving 80+ mph in a BMW in an area with a much lower speed limit. That's not a lack of experience. That's the thrill of speeding and risk taking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a county court, not the feds. He will go to some low level DOC camp if anything, not some hard prison.

He took the stand today and had an opportunity to apologize to the family but he didn't. He made a very general insincere apology, he called his actions "irresponsible". He seemed to have been reading his statement and kept stumbling on words. Definitely wasn't coming from the heart!

Meanwhile 2 of his friends actually shed tears while making their statements. He was dry eyed the whole time.

You have it backwards. The Feds have “camps” for their white collar crimes. Like where Madoff is. Shahid was convicted of a state crime and will go to a VA prison. Unless he commits additional infractions while in jail or prison he will likely be in a minimum security facility but not as nice as where Madoff is.

Was. Madoff died 3 years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men who harm young girls do not fare well in prison.

What nonsense? He was an inexperienced high school teen driver who tragically hit pedestrians in a crash, not a criminal rapist or pedo harming you g girls. This is insane.

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I feel sorry for any posters who knew the girls but some of the comments on here are ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:How will this whole process affect Usman’future? Let’s face it, I’m not saying what he did was right or I’m not trying to ignore the fact that two young girls lost their lives, but he was being stupid. Unfortunately the consequences of his stupidity were the absolute worst that could’ve happened.
Now his life is going to be ruined. I’m sure he is very psychologically affected by this. I can’t imagine this is easy on him or his family. We’ve all done stupid things in our life. We all want forgiveness.

Yes, everyone finds out, at some point during their life, that actions have consequences, that things don't turn out how they thought they would. He is learning that a little earlier than some people.

How will this affect his life? His life will be different than if he had not driven 81 mph into 3 girls on a sidewalk. It is what it is.

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Think about what the future holds for the families of the girls he killed.

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Anonymous wrote:Men who harm young girls do not fare well in prison.

What nonsense? He was an inexperienced high school teen driver who tragically hit pedestrians in a crash, not a criminal rapist or pedo harming you g girls. This is insane.

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I feel sorry for any posters who knew the girls but some of the comments on here are ridiculous.

Really? Like what?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men who harm young girls do not fare well in prison.

What nonsense? He was an inexperienced high school teen driver who tragically hit pedestrians in a crash, not a criminal rapist or pedo harming you g girls. This is insane.

+1

I feel sorry for any posters who knew the girls but some of the comments on here are ridiculous.

Really? Like what?

Go back and re-read the 75 pages. They’re pretty obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:If he is not going to get the maximum of 20 years then how much jail sentence will he get? Will they release him to go home for a while until the civil case is over? How does this work.? Can someone explain it? is there a possibility of house arrest? I mean, he didn’t do this on purpose. It was reckless and stupid. He was only 18. Maybe I watch too many movies, but they will absolutely destroy him in a federal prison. A young 20 year old boy going in with hardened inmates?

No one knows what the sentence will be. It's rare to see a case like this go to trial. Most defendants facing clear-cut vehicular manslaughter charges (often from a DUI) plead guilty. I expect that he could have gotten 2-3 years in a plea, and maybe he'll get 4-8 years now, but we'll just have to wait and see.

The civil case has no relevance to when he'll begin serving his sentence. I expect that he'll start serving it immediately. It's possible that the judge will defer the start date until he issues the sentence, but that seems unlikely given that the judge ordered his incarceration yesterday.

He was convicted of a state crime and will go to state prison, not federal prison. Regardless, the movies tend to exaggerate how bad conditions are; he'll be fine if he keeps to himself.

Plenty of young people go to prison for lesser crimes. Also he’s not a boy he’s a man.

I’m of the opinion that certain young men, the less cognitively and emotionally developed ones need a lot of discipline and structure.

He’d have been much better off if his parents had encouraged his joining something, a sports team, junior rotc anything that gave him a physical outlet for his aggression. With an eye to signing up for the military after h.s. graduation, serve a few years get broken down and built back up and then head off to college.

Now he’ll be allowed to mature in prison. Not ideal but as he isn’t a hardened criminal going into prison then it may give him the time he needs to grow up and wise up. It will break him down jo doubt but, that is sort of the point, perhaps he’ll figure out that he’s really not so thugilicious after all.

Think of prison as hard knocks group therapy with really scary people with really scary problems. Perhaps he’ll figure out going down the straight and narrow is more aligned with his best interests. With time and good behavior he may even get out early with enough time and hard earned wisdom to make something of himself.

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Anonymous wrote:Men who harm young girls do not fare well in prison.

What nonsense? He was an inexperienced high school teen driver who tragically hit pedestrians in a crash, not a criminal rapist or pedo harming you g girls. This is insane.

+1

I feel sorry for any posters who knew the girls but some of the comments on here are ridiculous.

Really? Like what?

Go back and re-read the 75 pages. They’re pretty obvious.

Being held accountable for killing 2 girls? Ok.

[Anonymous]

So if he only had a learners permit, he was not required to have insurance. Did he have insurance? Was the car on the parents insurance?

[Anonymous]

And hitting a third girl, another car and several street features including I think a telephone pole and totalling several cars.

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Anonymous wrote:Men who harm young girls do not fare well in prison.

What nonsense? He was an inexperienced high school teen driver who tragically hit pedestrians in a crash, not a criminal rapist or pedo harming you g girls. This is insane.

+1

I feel sorry for any posters who knew the girls but some of the comments on here are ridiculous.

Really? Like what?

Go back and re-read the 75 pages. They’re pretty obvious.

Being held accountable for killing 2 girls? Ok.

No, the comments that are way over-the-top.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From that link:

'Shahid took the stand last, telling the courtroom tearfully that he was deeply sorry for his actions and the pain he caused the victims.

"He said he was in “full regret with the actions he’s done.”"

Sure.
Crocodile tears that say " I could have cared less about the girls at the time, but I don't want to go to jail".
Not working for him.

I doubt it. He is a young kid with life in turmoil before he even graduated high school and probably has mental trauma from the accident and aftermath plus fear of future, likely his tears were very natural.

Did he ever get his license and has he been driving at VT?

He never went to Tech. Where do people get this BS from.... No he never got his license either...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His "sorry for my actions" is not an admission of guilt. He's leaving that door open for appeal. His atty prepared a carefully worded statement that sounds apologetic at first glance, but still leaves room for Shahid to contest the judge's rulings, undermining the validity of the verdict.

He's sorry for his actions, but really it was the other guy's fault (that's what he means).

Was he wearing a sweater and a light blue shirt? Anyone who was there?

If he were to admit guilt it would be used against him in the civil case the victim's families have filed.