Valor

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Anonymous wrote:Not Valor marketing, my kid plays at Great Falls. Valor is not any farther for us and Great Falls is a mess. Most of their coaches are leaving, as current players will tell you.
Looks like Valor could use a marketing person though...

Valor is a trainwreck. if you are thinking about moving clubs go consider anyone else. Well maybe not st james.

hardly a trainwreck.. just depends on what age group you are in.. like most clubs.. even certain ECNL teams have issues….

doyou see any other org on here with 67 pages of complaints? why risk it

So, not every post has been a complaint, and yeah, 116 pages on FC Virginia but again, not all complaints (but certainly not there for the praises). https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1172158.page

yeah people should avoid Valor and FC Virginia. good point.

[Anonymous]

If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

[Anonymous]

They definitely have a full-time marketing/social media person. Lots of graphics and videos that are time consuming to put together. Charging over 3000 per paying warm body leads to lots of extra cash for hiring staff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

at 3k a kid i dont know if many rec kids would be willing to pay that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They definitely have a full-time marketing/social media person. Lots of graphics and videos that are time consuming to put together. Charging over 3000 per paying warm body leads to lots of extra cash for hiring staff.

This is my area of expertise and once you have your layers down which do take time to make this is not time consuming at all.

One full time marketing/social media person could probably knock out two to three local clubs if they wanted to.

Also not sure if the person that does their sm now is the one in the past but i wouldn't be surprised if they paid someone on Fiverr for the layers annually. When i had spoken to them in the past they didnt seem "SM graphic design" savvy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

Oh good grief! What a disaster train wreck this is. When you have to rely on the butterfly chasing rec players to fill in your travel teams so you can hold on to a few bucks. Why would anyone still join Valor knowing that it is filled with rec players?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

Oh good grief! What a disaster train wreck this is. When you have to rely on the butterfly chasing rec players to fill in your travel teams so you can hold on to a few bucks. Why would anyone still join Valor knowing that it is filled with rec players?

100% True. Their level 1, 2 and level 3 players are good, but they still have 10-20% floating in there that are slightly better than a rec player.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

Oh good grief! What a disaster train wreck this is. When you have to rely on the butterfly chasing rec players to fill in your travel teams so you can hold on to a few bucks. Why would anyone still join Valor knowing that it is filled with rec players?

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Because location-wise it works. And my kid has friends on the team. And we like the parents. And my kid (top team) isn't going to play in college -- heck, maybe not even HS with the competition here. And that's ok bc the sucky coaches are still better than our last Rec Dad coach. And paying even $3k isn't going to change our lifestyle compared with a less expensive travel team.

Appreciate all the dire warnings. Sometimes though, the devil you know...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

Oh good grief! What a disaster train wreck this is. When you have to rely on the butterfly chasing rec players to fill in your travel teams so you can hold on to a few bucks. Why would anyone still join Valor knowing that it is filled with rec players?

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Because location-wise it works. And my kid has friends on the team. And we like the parents. And my kid (top team) isn't going to play in college -- heck, maybe not even HS with the competition here. And that's ok bc the sucky coaches are still better than our last Rec Dad coach. And paying even $3k isn't going to change our lifestyle compared with a less expensive travel team.

Appreciate all the dire warnings. Sometimes though, the devil you know...

I honestly think this is the type of kid/family valor is good for. A friendly club where the kids are playing soccer while making friends and great memories. At the end of the day that is what a lot of parents are looking for.
I agree with you location wise it is great. I think the issue arises when your kid is actually competitive and wants to get better.
I don't think valor can and could possible cater to children like those. That is when you see kids moving out to other clubs in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

Seems to be reflective every year for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

Oh good grief! What a disaster train wreck this is. When you have to rely on the butterfly chasing rec players to fill in your travel teams so you can hold on to a few bucks. Why would anyone still join Valor knowing that it is filled with rec players?

''

Because location-wise it works. And my kid has friends on the team. And we like the parents. And my kid (top team) isn't going to play in college -- heck, maybe not even HS with the competition here. And that's ok bc the sucky coaches are still better than our last Rec Dad coach. And paying even $3k isn't going to change our lifestyle compared with a less expensive travel team.

Appreciate all the dire warnings. Sometimes though, the devil you know...

I honestly think this is the type of kid/family valor is good for. A friendly club where the kids are playing soccer while making friends and great memories. At the end of the day that is what a lot of parents are looking for.
I agree with you location wise it is great. I think the issue arises when your kid is actually competitive and wants to get better.
I don't think valor can and could possible cater to children like those. That is when you see kids moving out to other clubs in the area.

If this was the case then there wouldn't be so many disgruntled low team families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were Steve, I would stick with GFR after seeing all these issues.

And still no coaches for girls out.

I wonder if registration is low and they dont want to hire coaches if they dont have a team to give them.

they just fillback by recruiting from their rec leagues

Oh good grief! What a disaster train wreck this is. When you have to rely on the butterfly chasing rec players to fill in your travel teams so you can hold on to a few bucks. Why would anyone still join Valor knowing that it is filled with rec players?

''

Because location-wise it works. And my kid has friends on the team. And we like the parents. And my kid (top team) isn't going to play in college -- heck, maybe not even HS with the competition here. And that's ok bc the sucky coaches are still better than our last Rec Dad coach. And paying even $3k isn't going to change our lifestyle compared with a less expensive travel team.

Appreciate all the dire warnings. Sometimes though, the devil you know...

I honestly think this is the type of kid/family valor is good for. A friendly club where the kids are playing soccer while making friends and great memories. At the end of the day that is what a lot of parents are looking for.
I agree with you location wise it is great. I think the issue arises when your kid is actually competitive and wants to get better.
I don't think valor can and could possible cater to children like those. That is when you see kids moving out to other clubs in the area.

Valor only wants to cater to committed paying customers/parents regardless of the players skill set or performance improvement.

[Anonymous]

If kids were having fun and making great memories on the 3, 4 5th teams, those teams wouldn't have 90% turnover every season.