Mom Cliques. I had no idea.

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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


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Running into several school mom acquaintances during the day, while on a work event planning meeting, is not “being excluded”



It might be and it might not. It really depends on the circumstances.

The real problem on this thread is that people on both sides are making assumptions about OPs situation that may or may not be true and then laying down a firm edict like yours above that allows for no other possibility.

My guess is that most moms on this thread are not horrible people who purposefully exclude in real life. And many of us have been on both sides of this scenario. But for some reason on this thread, people are coming down hard and being quite belligerent. it's bizarre really.


+1, I feel agnostic about OP's specific situation because I just don't think I have enough info either way to say if the other women were being exclusive or she was overreacting. I do think her text was poor form, but if the other women behaved in a very obnoxious way, I might empathize with the hurt she was feeling that should lead her to send the text. But again, no idea.

It's strange to me how many people on this thread (or maybe it just a few people posting a lot, I don't know) have these very strong, definitive opinions on the matter, either that any accusation of a clique or exclusive behavior is automatically false, or conversely that if you don't invite everyone you know to every event, you are in a clique. It's obviously not one or the other.

I've definitely dealt with exclusive or clique-y women in my life, including a little clique at my child's elementary school. But generally my annoyance with cliques is not "why won't they include me" but when the clique impacts other aspects of my life. I don't want to be friends with people who don't want to be friends with me, but a clique can be really frustrating if its hoarding resources or blocking access to something I want or need access to. Like I once worked in a place with a very irritating clique that involved several managers, and basically if you were not in that clique, you were never going to get good assignments, move up, or be pulled into decision-making. It sucked and I left that job even though I actually think if I'd tried, they would have let me into the clique. I just think that's an unethical way to run an organization and I don't want to have to socialize with people in my free time in order to be treated fairly at work.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


Get over it. Many people didn't come to the same conclusion as you and were called alcoholics amongst other insults. You can get down off the cross now. Your hands aren't clean.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


Get over it. Many people didn't come to the same conclusion as you and were called alcoholics amongst other insults. You can get down off the cross now. Your hands aren't clean.


Wut.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


Get over it. Many people didn't come to the same conclusion as you and were called alcoholics amongst other insults. You can get down off the cross now. Your hands aren't clean.


Wut.


Simple. The b-itches who attacked the OP are mad that the tables turned on them.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


She didnt say she felt excluded and sad or anything about sharing times others have felt excluded. She says, “LMAO.Share your favorite mom clique story” That pretty much sounds like looking to make fun of others to me
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


She didnt say she felt excluded and sad or anything about sharing times others have felt excluded. She says, “LMAO.Share your favorite mom clique story” That pretty much sounds like looking to make fun of others to me


I'm NOT team OP. I think her assumptions were entirely off-base, those women are not a clique and did not exclude her, and her text was ridiculous verging on unhinged. But I don't think the post was misogynistic and I don't really think she wanted to make fun of people for sh*ts and giggles. I think in her mind she truly believes she was excluded and wanted an echo chamber to make herself feel better.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


Get over it. Many people didn't come to the same conclusion as you and were called alcoholics amongst other insults. You can get down off the cross now. Your hands aren't clean.


Wut.


Simple. The b-itches who attacked the OP are mad that the tables turned on them.


You are personalizing this thread to a degree that honestly makes me concerned for your mental well being. None of us even know each other and all the posts are anonymous. This is so weird.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


Get over it. Many people didn't come to the same conclusion as you and were called alcoholics amongst other insults. You can get down off the cross now. Your hands aren't clean.


Wut.


Simple. The b-itches who attacked the OP are mad that the tables turned on them.


Except you're a massive hypocrite and look foolish the more you repeat yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


Get over it. Many people didn't come to the same conclusion as you and were called alcoholics amongst other insults. You can get down off the cross now. Your hands aren't clean.


Wut.


Simple. The b-itches who attacked the OP are mad that the tables turned on them.


You are personalizing this thread to a degree that honestly makes me concerned for your mental well being. None of us even know each other and all the posts are anonymous. This is so weird.


Nice projection!
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


Agree. It’s been kooko

The over explaining was especially nutso.
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Anonymous wrote:OP was sharing her experience and how it made her feel. She wasn’t asking for your analysis of the situation but looking to see if others have had similar experiences. Some of you are so self absorbed and didn’t even read, understand, or care to, what the poster was looking to discuss. So why engage? To show anonymously your viscous selves and then smile to women you don’t like tomorrow at school pick up?


OP was asking for nasty, judgmental stories about women that people barely know so she could laugh at them and call them names. So sorry most people didn't comply.


Or she was asking for points of comparison so she can understand if she is the only one experiencing being excluded. But go on, continue to misunderstand and hate. That will surely be something your kids pick up from you.


It's clearly you who misunderstands and hates. Look in the mirror.


OMG do you guys read what you are writing before you hit send?


OMG yes quit trying to shame people for doing what you're doing. It's ridiculous.


The "misunderstands" is fine, but the "hates". Really?

Call it "shame" if you want, but sometimes people need to be called out to take a moment and think about it.


Sorry the post trying to get women to hate on other women was a flop. OP was rightfully called out in it.


I don't think this thread was about hating on other women, it was about sharing experiences with feeling excluded from a group.

The amount of hate direct at OP on this thread was a multitude more than the frankly minor judgment she issued about these women she knows getting together without her.


Agree. It’s been kooko

The over explaining was especially nutso.


+2
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+1, we actually don't get much info from OP here, certainly not enough to draw conclusions. The people who are assuming good intent by this group and hurling insults at OP are simply showing themselves up.


Seems the opposite to me. All we know is 15 women got together for lunch. Nothing nefarious about that. Why are they suddenly a “mean girl” mom clique? Literally nothing sail alludes to this- OP is just peeved she wasn’t invited. Which in itself isn’t mean spirited



It's typical DCUM. People loooove to dog-pile on the OP and project their own issues. The first couple pages are all mean moms telling OP it's her fault and she made it awkward based on very little info. Says tons about them.


+10000


It’s because Op came out swinging against a group of women who dared to go anywhere without her. She’s not going to get the sisterhood rallying around her when she comes out like that.


Swinging seems intense. She wrote a potentially snarky text to a friend. It may have been reactive but not completely deranged like so many are implying. Honestly does no one have compassion or genuine friendships around here?


If a friend sent me a snarky text because I happened to have social plans that didn’t include her, I would not be clamoring to get together with her anytime soon. Who the heck wants to be guilted for having a social life that doesn’t revolve entirely around inviting that one person along to everything.

If I ran into a couple friends out in a big group I didn’t know I would smile and wave. If I happened to be in close proximity I may make pleasantries and ask how the wine is and if there’s anything they’d recommend ordering for my event. If OP had been friendly maybe she would have been introduced to the group and invited next time. She’ll never be invited now after her little tantrum. And would she really even want an invite given out of some sort of guilt trip?


If OP was my friend, I would have waved her over and asked if she had time to join us for a glass of wine.

That is good manners. Many on this board seemingly have none.

If Queen Bee gets mad and casts me out of the inner circle, then so be it. The rest of the wine mom minions can decide to hang out with and be ruled by a 15-year-old mean girl, in a grown adult's body.


Exactly. Even if it was not school related. That’s my friend. Hey, babe! So cool to see you. Come over?


The last three times I got together with a group of other women were for (1) a book club, (2) to plan a memorial for a child who had died, and (3) working on an upcoming event for a non-profit. If my best friend, who is not in my book club and therefore may not have read the book we were discussing, doesn't know the child who died, and has nothing to do with the non-profit or the event, had walked by me while I was with any of those groups, I absolutely would not have invited her to come join us because it would not be appropriate. It is flabbergasting to me that you people would actually use the words you suggested above. I clearly don't know anyone like you because I don't know anyone who would do that, and if I did, I'm quite certain everyone else in the group would think it was really odd.


But you would say WHY you were gathered right? “hi Susan! Good to see you. We’re planning a kid’s funeral. See you at spin on Wednesday.”
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