Anonymous
04/22/2013 18:52
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
nannydebsays wrote:PP or PP's who have spent so much time complaining about the INA:
Perhaps you (all) should channel your energies into creating the nanny-only organization that you so desperately seem to want.
With all the passionate kvetching you've done here, you could instead have already completed paperwork to file as a business or a non-profit, started a publicity campaign, and elected a board of directors.
Why not address the problems being raised? Are you saying you feel it's hopeless and it will continue to be "business as usual"? The agency conflict of interest issue, for instance, is bound to explode as more and more nannies become informed.
nannydebsays
04/22/2013 16:25
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
PP or PP's who have spent so much time complaining about the INA:
Perhaps you (all) should channel your energies into creating the nanny-only organization that you so desperately seem to want.
With all the passionate kvetching you've done here, you could instead have already completed paperwork to file as a business or a non-profit, started a publicity campaign, and elected a board of directors.
Perhaps you (all) should channel your energies into creating the nanny-only organization that you so desperately seem to want.
With all the passionate kvetching you've done here, you could instead have already completed paperwork to file as a business or a non-profit, started a publicity campaign, and elected a board of directors.
Anonymous
04/21/2013 21:44
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:
Both Susan and Kathy, of the International Nanny Association board, claim that they want INA to be the "umbrella organization" for all in-home childcare related businesses and nannies.
If that's true, why are they both active members of the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies? Why not have one "umbrella" organization, as they say they want?
It should be noted, the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies,
www.theapna.org
does not allow nanny employers or nannies to join.
Why?
Anonymous
04/21/2013 21:04
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Both Susan and Kathy, of the International Nanny Association board, claim that they want INA to be the "umbrella organization" for all in-home childcare related businesses and nannies.
If that's true, why are they both active members of the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies? Why not have one "umbrella" organization, as they say they want?
Anonymous
04/20/2013 07:45
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to me how many people post anonymously on this board. If you really believe what you are saying, why would you not put your name?
Just curious?
Glenda Propst
Who wants to be blacklisted? I am sorry to have to admit it, but the INA has a reputation for doing that. Why do you think the "suggestion box" concept is so successful? The INA should take this opportunity to respond to the issues being raised, and maybe clean house in the process. The longer they ignore the problems, the worse they will get. We are still waiting for the INA board to address the issues that have been raised. It's impossible for them to skirt the issues in a public forum, even though they say they welcome "input" if you contact them privately. As board members of the 900 member International Nanny Association, they owe us a certain degree of transparency.
The suggestion box is successful only if the suggestions are addressed, rather than get swept under the rug.
Anonymous
04/20/2013 00:07
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Becky here again . . . the blance of memberships in INA are business related. Business related means nanny placement agencies, support businesses (nanny tax co., background check co., insurance co., etc.), staff of any of these busnesses, educators/schools with nanny or NCS specific training programs and some Newborn Care Specialists that also operate placement opportunities for NCS individuals.
So if you're a Newborn Care Specialist, NCS, are you a nanny or a business?
Neither. You're an NCS who might also operate a business referring work to other NCS's.
I'm just finishing up my required hours to become a Certified Newborn Care Specialist. From what I understand most well known and experienced Newborn Care Specialists are getting way more requests than they can do themselves. As a result, these Newborn Care Specialists are referring out the work that they can't accept. Some of them have formed agencies, but others are just doing it to help out their fellow Newborn Care Specialists.
Anonymous
04/19/2013 19:20
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to me how many people post anonymously on this board. If you really believe what you are saying, why would you not put your name?
Just curious?
Glenda Propst
Who wants to be blacklisted? I am sorry to have to admit it, but the INA has a reputation for doing that. Why do you think the "suggestion box" concept is so successful? The INA should take this opportunity to respond to the issues being raised, and maybe clean house in the process. The longer they ignore the problems, the worse they will get. We are still waiting for the INA board to address the issues that have been raised. It's impossible for them to skirt the issues in a public forum, even though they say they welcome "input" if you contact them privately. As board members of the 900 member International Nanny Association, they owe us a certain degree of transparency.
Anonymous
04/19/2013 19:00
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to me how many people post anonymously on this board. If you really believe what you are saying, why would you not put your name?
Just curious?
Glenda Propst
I haven't posted in this thread yet, because I know nothing about the INA, but nannies here post a lot of details about their jobs when asking the larger community whether something is acceptable or not or how they'd respond to a particular issue. For the sake of not being identified by the families we work for, I imagine all of us will continue to be anonymous.
Anonymous
04/19/2013 18:44
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
It's interesting to me how many people post anonymously on this board. If you really believe what you are saying, why would you not put your name?
Just curious?
Glenda Propst
Just curious?
Glenda Propst
Anonymous
04/19/2013 14:22
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a INA member, but I am disappointed that this association dosent provide more advocacy for nannies. They have/had a job board, but it sucked!!! Why wouldn't they provide a service where nannies can find quality jobs with good standards?
It'd be an obvious conflict of interest for agencies to allow nannies to apply for jobs without first forcing parents paying up $1,000's and $1,000's to the agencies.
Easy money.
What do they do? Background checks and reference checking? Then open their pockets for windfall profits.
If you think it is easy, you have clearly never operated a business of any kind, let alone a nanny agency.
Sorry, I have. How long have you been a nanny?
Do you really expect us to believe you? Sorry, but if you think all running a business entails is doing reference and background checks, then no, I do not believe for a second that you have ever operated a business. Or maybe you have, and that is why it failed.
What is it that you do, besides call refs and run background checks, after a hire one of your nannies?
I provide the nannies with CPR/First-Aid certification and sometimes additional trainings. I check in with both family and nannies regularly to see how things are going. I help with negotiations and work agreements. I provide back-up for the families when nanny goes on vacation or is sick. I am the one who deals with the problem when a nanny decides to stop showing up to work on time, or when a family tries to pile on duties that weren't agreed to by the nanny.
Furthermore, there is a LOT that goes into getting a business up and running. Families and nannies don't simply flock to you once you open a business. If that is what you believe, you are a fool (and again, you most certainly have never operated a business). There is a lot of work that goes into marketing, branding, getting your name out there in community events, not to mention the back-end that goes into running ANY business (licensing, insurance, accounting, tech/web needs, the list goes on and on).
I take my business seriously, and care about both families and nannies. When I send a nanny out for a job, it is MY reputation on the line. It is me who is being trusted to find good quality nannies and investigate their background thoroughly to ensure the safety of the children. The parents are instilling a lot of trust in me, and I take it seriously.
My work never stops. I need to be on call to deal with issues 24/7. I go on vacation, I keep daily tabs on what is going on. I reply to emails and phone calls no matter where I am.
It is hard but fulfilling work, and most definitely not the wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am windfall that you seem to think it is.
If other nanny agencies cared half as much as you seem to, we would not be having all these endless problems. Why doesn't APNA,
www.theapna.org
allow you to set "the standards".
Are they simply too busy promoting themselves?
Anonymous
04/19/2013 12:41
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a INA member, but I am disappointed that this association dosent provide more advocacy for nannies. They have/had a job board, but it sucked!!! Why wouldn't they provide a service where nannies can find quality jobs with good standards?
It'd be an obvious conflict of interest for agencies to allow nannies to apply for jobs without first forcing parents paying up $1,000's and $1,000's to the agencies.
Easy money.
What do they do? Background checks and reference checking? Then open their pockets for windfall profits.
If you think it is easy, you have clearly never operated a business of any kind, let alone a nanny agency.
Sorry, I have. How long have you been a nanny?
Do you really expect us to believe you? Sorry, but if you think all running a business entails is doing reference and background checks, then no, I do not believe for a second that you have ever operated a business. Or maybe you have, and that is why it failed.
What is it that you do, besides call refs and run background checks, after a hire one of your nannies?
I provide the nannies with CPR/First-Aid certification and sometimes additional trainings. I check in with both family and nannies regularly to see how things are going. I help with negotiations and work agreements. I provide back-up for the families when nanny goes on vacation or is sick. I am the one who deals with the problem when a nanny decides to stop showing up to work on time, or when a family tries to pile on duties that weren't agreed to by the nanny.
Furthermore, there is a LOT that goes into getting a business up and running. Families and nannies don't simply flock to you once you open a business. If that is what you believe, you are a fool (and again, you most certainly have never operated a business). There is a lot of work that goes into marketing, branding, getting your name out there in community events, not to mention the back-end that goes into running ANY business (licensing, insurance, accounting, tech/web needs, the list goes on and on).
I take my business seriously, and care about both families and nannies. When I send a nanny out for a job, it is MY reputation on the line. It is me who is being trusted to find good quality nannies and investigate their background thoroughly to ensure the safety of the children. The parents are instilling a lot of trust in me, and I take it seriously.
My work never stops. I need to be on call to deal with issues 24/7. I go on vacation, I keep daily tabs on what is going on. I reply to emails and phone calls no matter where I am.
It is hard but fulfilling work, and most definitely not the wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am windfall that you seem to think it is.
Anonymous
04/19/2013 11:35
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:The INA board already said that a newborn care specialist can be either a nanny or a business or both!
Yes they did.
Anonymous
04/19/2013 11:32
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a INA member, but I am disappointed that this association dosent provide more advocacy for nannies. They have/had a job board, but it sucked!!! Why wouldn't they provide a service where nannies can find quality jobs with good standards?
It'd be an obvious conflict of interest for agencies to allow nannies to apply for jobs without first forcing parents paying up $1,000's and $1,000's to the agencies.
Easy money.
What do they do? Background checks and reference checking? Then open their pockets for windfall profits.
If you think it is easy, you have clearly never operated a business of any kind, let alone a nanny agency.
Sorry, I have. How long have you been a nanny?
Do you really expect us to believe you? Sorry, but if you think all running a business entails is doing reference and background checks, then no, I do not believe for a second that you have ever operated a business. Or maybe you have, and that is why it failed.
What is it that you do, besides call refs and run background checks, after a hire one of your nannies?
Anonymous
04/19/2013 11:21
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a INA member, but I am disappointed that this association dosent provide more advocacy for nannies. They have/had a job board, but it sucked!!! Why wouldn't they provide a service where nannies can find quality jobs with good standards?
It'd be an obvious conflict of interest for agencies to allow nannies to apply for jobs without first forcing parents paying up $1,000's and $1,000's to the agencies.
Easy money.
What do they do? Background checks and reference checking? Then open their pockets for windfall profits.
If you think it is easy, you have clearly never operated a business of any kind, let alone a nanny agency.
Sorry, I have. How long have you been a nanny?
Do you really expect us to believe you? Sorry, but if you think all running a business entails is doing reference and background checks, then no, I do not believe for a second that you have ever operated a business. Or maybe you have, and that is why it failed.
Anonymous
04/18/2013 21:41
Subject: INA Conference anyone going?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Becky here again . . . the blance of memberships in INA are business related. Business related means nanny placement agencies, support businesses (nanny tax co., background check co., insurance co., etc.), staff of any of these busnesses, educators/schools with nanny or NCS specific training programs and some Newborn Care Specialists that also operate placement opportunities for NCS individuals.
So if you're a Newborn Care Specialist, NCS, are you a nanny or a business?
Neither. You're an NCS who might also operate a business referring work to other NCS's.