Anonymous
Post 06/20/2014 12:50     Subject: Re:Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Because no employer is going to give a nanny a reference letter.

You can stop the trolling now.


NP here (really!) and while I agree with most of what I think were your points, it is very common in England for nannies to present written references when applying for a new position. It is also, of course, standard for them to provide contact information for follow ups, but written references are expected. Experienced nannies wind up with a folder full of them. I used mine when I relocated and according to my references the presentation of the letters helped my new bosses narrow in on their questioning and pick out key points to address, shortening the call (which they appreciated). I don't think it's crazy to expect them (I include in my contract that a new one is written every 6 months) but of course they're no substitute for actually SPEAKING to a reference.


I'm the poster you are quoting and I only posted once, so I'm not sure what points you are referring to. You also misunderstood my post.

My only point is that this discussion is absurd because most employers will not give a nanny a reference for themselves. Of course, employers will expected a nanny candidate to provide references, but it silly for a nanny candidate to expect a reference from the potential employer.


You're right, I missed that crazy argument that parents provide references to nanny candidates. Mea culpa.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2014 12:22     Subject: Re:Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:
Because no employer is going to give a nanny a reference letter.

You can stop the trolling now.


NP here (really!) and while I agree with most of what I think were your points, it is very common in England for nannies to present written references when applying for a new position. It is also, of course, standard for them to provide contact information for follow ups, but written references are expected. Experienced nannies wind up with a folder full of them. I used mine when I relocated and according to my references the presentation of the letters helped my new bosses narrow in on their questioning and pick out key points to address, shortening the call (which they appreciated). I don't think it's crazy to expect them (I include in my contract that a new one is written every 6 months) but of course they're no substitute for actually SPEAKING to a reference.


I'm the poster you are quoting and I only posted once, so I'm not sure what points you are referring to. You also misunderstood my post.

My only point is that this discussion is absurd because most employers will not give a nanny a reference for themselves. Of course, employers will expected a nanny candidate to provide references, but it silly for a nanny candidate to expect a reference from the potential employer.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2014 08:44     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nannies must insist on regular reference letters at least every six months, if not every three months. You never know how your trusted family will suddenly turn evil and vindictive when you give notice. If they seem hesitant, there's your red flag. RUN!





I think nannies have to asking references from the parents too.

Exactly. It's actually another indication of her RESPONSIBLE behavior.

Would you really WANT your kid's nanny to trust any random adult, just because they're rich and look nice?

THINK about it......


Anonymous
Post 06/20/2014 07:58     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:Nannies must insist on regular reference letters at least every six months, if not every three months. You never know how your trusted family will suddenly turn evil and vindictive when you give notice. If they seem hesitant, there's your red flag. RUN!





I think nannies have to asking references from the parents too.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2014 07:57     Subject: Essential Proceedures
I would not agree to give a written reference before the end of employment. We had a nanny who worked with us for a short while, and if asked about her early on, I would have said she was good. If asked about her at the end if her employment, I would have said she started out well but her performance changed significantly and she started making frequent unreasonable excuses for lateness, showed some surprising judgment lapses, and is I would not have rehired her and could not in good faith recommend her to anyone else. This isn't about me being angry if a nanny moves on - but being aware that another parent may make a decision based in what I write. I am not going to give a reference based on partial information, and partial information is all I have if asked to write a review before end of job term.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2014 06:59     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:My mb once told me ...she would give me a bad reference if I decide to leave because she wouldn't want me to get hired by someone else

Wow. What a bitch. Get another job. And leave.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 23:21     Subject: Essential Proceedures
My mb once told me ...she would give me a bad reference if I decide to leave because she wouldn't want me to get hired by someone else
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 23:04     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because no employer is going to give a nanny a reference letter.

You can stop the trolling now.


NP here (really!) and while I agree with most of what I think were your points, it is very common in England for nannies to present written references when applying for a new position. It is also, of course, standard for them to provide contact information for follow ups, but written references are expected. Experienced nannies wind up with a folder full of them. I used mine when I relocated and according to my references the presentation of the letters helped my new bosses narrow in on their questioning and pick out key points to address, shortening the call (which they appreciated). I don't think it's crazy to expect them (I include in my contract that a new one is written every 6 months) but of course they're no substitute for actually SPEAKING to a reference.

You require a new reference letter every six months from the same job?


That's what's written in the contract. In reality they have updated it every 12 months, though they always ask at 6 if I'd like one. So far I haven't found that to be necessary with this family (3+ years) but I have in the past.

It sounds very SMART to me. All nannies should do this. If some MB doesn't like it, RUN!!!
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 21:41     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because no employer is going to give a nanny a reference letter.

You can stop the trolling now.


NP here (really!) and while I agree with most of what I think were your points, it is very common in England for nannies to present written references when applying for a new position. It is also, of course, standard for them to provide contact information for follow ups, but written references are expected. Experienced nannies wind up with a folder full of them. I used mine when I relocated and according to my references the presentation of the letters helped my new bosses narrow in on their questioning and pick out key points to address, shortening the call (which they appreciated). I don't think it's crazy to expect them (I include in my contract that a new one is written every 6 months) but of course they're no substitute for actually SPEAKING to a reference.

You require a new reference letter every six months from the same job?


That's what's written in the contract. In reality they have updated it every 12 months, though they always ask at 6 if I'd like one. So far I haven't found that to be necessary with this family (3+ years) but I have in the past.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 18:13     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because no employer is going to give a nanny a reference letter.

You can stop the trolling now.


NP here (really!) and while I agree with most of what I think were your points, it is very common in England for nannies to present written references when applying for a new position. It is also, of course, standard for them to provide contact information for follow ups, but written references are expected. Experienced nannies wind up with a folder full of them. I used mine when I relocated and according to my references the presentation of the letters helped my new bosses narrow in on their questioning and pick out key points to address, shortening the call (which they appreciated). I don't think it's crazy to expect them (I include in my contract that a new one is written every 6 months) but of course they're no substitute for actually SPEAKING to a reference.

You require a new reference letter every six months from the same job?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 18:08     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:Because no employer is going to give a nanny a reference letter.

You can stop the trolling now.

Huh?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 15:16     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:Because no employer is going to give a nanny a reference letter.

You can stop the trolling now.


NP here (really!) and while I agree with most of what I think were your points, it is very common in England for nannies to present written references when applying for a new position. It is also, of course, standard for them to provide contact information for follow ups, but written references are expected. Experienced nannies wind up with a folder full of them. I used mine when I relocated and according to my references the presentation of the letters helped my new bosses narrow in on their questioning and pick out key points to address, shortening the call (which they appreciated). I don't think it's crazy to expect them (I include in my contract that a new one is written every 6 months) but of course they're no substitute for actually SPEAKING to a reference.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 14:56     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Because no employer is going to give a nanny a reference letter.

You can stop the trolling now.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 14:46     Subject: Essential Proceedures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can this thread die already?!?!

Everyone, in every industry, approaches references differently and there are MANY acceptable ways.

Honestly, aside from an school/grant/high powered positions WHO even accepts written references anymore?

You are SO wrong, wrong and WRONG. And you know it.
Afraid of getting sued for slander? Hmmm. Damn.

Nope, I'm a nanny who thinks this discussion is absurd.

Why?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2014 14:03     Subject: Essential Proceedures
I've never asked an employer for a reference letter. I've been a nanny for over 10 years. Hasn't hurt me yet. Why bother your employers.