Anonymous
02/27/2021 22:54
Subject: Au pairs covered in phase 1b for vaccine?
The neutralizing antibody level in the nasal mucosa has NOT been studied and was not studied as a primary end point in the vaccine trials.
You can be replicating virus in your nose and the antibodies are not binding to the spike protein because of insufficient quantity or possibly no quantities at all. Those is currently being studied. Follow the data, not what you "think" or "wish". Look it up, don't take my word for it.
You can spread the virus to all those around you. This is a possibility and as such, the vaccine as of this moment is ONLY to prevent moderate to severe illness in the individual who is vaccinated. That's all that has been proven at this point, nothing else.
You can be replicating virus in your nose and the antibodies are not binding to the spike protein because of insufficient quantity or possibly no quantities at all. Those is currently being studied. Follow the data, not what you "think" or "wish". Look it up, don't take my word for it.
You can spread the virus to all those around you. This is a possibility and as such, the vaccine as of this moment is ONLY to prevent moderate to severe illness in the individual who is vaccinated. That's all that has been proven at this point, nothing else.
Anonymous
02/13/2021 10:59
Subject: Au pairs covered in phase 1b for vaccine?
Mine received her 2nd dose last Monday and she was in for a rude awakening when I told her that she is not going to be fully protected for another 2 weeks. She is already trying to runaround unmasked.
Anonymous
02/12/2021 22:52
Subject: Au pairs covered in phase 1b for vaccine?
Au pairs aren't child care workers. They are part of a cultural exchange program.
Anonymous
02/11/2021 11:40
Subject: Au pairs covered in phase 1b for vaccine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can still TRANSMIT covid even if you are fully vaccinated so au pairs can still bring it home to the family.
The vaccine is not a free ticket to travel and behave irresponsibly.
That is an extremely low likelihood event.0
Read the Effie science
If you meant “effing” science, I’d like you to point me to where it says the vaccine definitively does not stop the spread. All evidence currently just suggests we don’t know yet because no one wants to make broad declarative statements without actual proof. The whole point of a vaccine is to stop the spread. Do you know how it works? It essentially teaches your body to destroy the spike protein attached to coronavirus. So assuming you have a healthy immune system that works (which Is the key, and presumably is true for most 18-26 year olds) if coronavirus does get into your system, it should begin being destroyed pretty quickly and is likely not going to be multiplying unencumbered fast enough to produce and expel enough viral load that will be contagious. Is it possible that they sneeze out some random coronavirus particles and infect someone? Sure. But with some basic precautions for those of you who are high risk or extra nervous, I see no reason why travel or gathering with friends is out the question.
There are insufficient prospective data to state that transmission is reduced with the vaccine. THis is what we all want. Just hold tight. It's not about what you "see". Wait for the data.
Anonymous
02/11/2021 11:27
Subject: Au pairs covered in phase 1b for vaccine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can still TRANSMIT covid even if you are fully vaccinated so au pairs can still bring it home to the family.
The vaccine is not a free ticket to travel and behave irresponsibly.
That is an extremely low likelihood event.0
Read the Effie science
If you meant “effing” science, I’d like you to point me to where it says the vaccine definitively does not stop the spread. All evidence currently just suggests we don’t know yet because no one wants to make broad declarative statements without actual proof. The whole point of a vaccine is to stop the spread. Do you know how it works? It essentially teaches your body to destroy the spike protein attached to coronavirus. So assuming you have a healthy immune system that works (which Is the key, and presumably is true for most 18-26 year olds) if coronavirus does get into your system, it should begin being destroyed pretty quickly and is likely not going to be multiplying unencumbered fast enough to produce and expel enough viral load that will be contagious. Is it possible that they sneeze out some random coronavirus particles and infect someone? Sure. But with some basic precautions for those of you who are high risk or extra nervous, I see no reason why travel or gathering with friends is out the question.
Anonymous
02/08/2021 20:39
Subject: Au pairs covered in phase 1b for vaccine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can still TRANSMIT covid even if you are fully vaccinated so au pairs can still bring it home to the family.
The vaccine is not a free ticket to travel and behave irresponsibly.
That is an extremely low likelihood event.0
Read the Effie science
Anonymous
02/08/2021 16:30
Subject: Au pairs covered in phase 1b for vaccine?
Anonymous wrote:You can still TRANSMIT covid even if you are fully vaccinated so au pairs can still bring it home to the family.
The vaccine is not a free ticket to travel and behave irresponsibly.
That is an extremely low likelihood event.0
Anonymous
02/08/2021 13:53
Subject: Au pairs covered in phase 1b for vaccine?
Anonymous wrote:Our aupair waited three hours at a Safeway for extra dose of the Moderna vaccine after the pharmacy was done vaccinating people for the day. She’s petrified of covid. We are essential frontline workers and worried we will bring it home. Our kids may get mild cases but we would feel horrible if our aupair gets it.
It’s not for travel or partying. She rarely does either. Not everyone is “skipping the line”. Over 300 doses were thrown away this week by the health department because of “left over” doses.
Any dose given to anyone is a victory for public health. Don’t get so wrapped up in what’s fair or what’s not or general assumptions about people’s motivation that we hold ourselves back from vaccinating those who are willing.
The 20 something crowd will party and do stupid things. They are at that age. You could argue that they should be a priority to vaccinate. They may not be in the ED but they are definitely at the urgent care where I work getting covid tests and spreading it to those who are in the ED.
Vaccinate anyone who is there waiting for doses!
That still doesn't mean she can jump the line. Many of us are petrified of COVID. My spouse is an ER doc. I work from home and we have super strict protocols at home. The leftover doses can go to someone who needs it more---to do basic things like work and make ends meet. Partying does not make you a priority group. that's not how health equity works.
And shame on the LCCs who are telling the APs to get vaccinated.