Anonymous
Post 07/27/2019 20:39     Subject: Re:AP taking care of other kids
I would just change your work hours for those two weeks. You come home early, watch the kids after camp with the AP and then have the AP on later at night so she can help you while you catch up on work you missed. Then put the AP on for 10 hours Saturday so you can catch up on work from home. If you are home, the AP isn’t watching the cousin. You are responsible for the cousin if there is an emergency, etc.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2019 19:59     Subject: AP taking care of other kids
Anonymous wrote:I am licensed massage therapist. I see a lot of clients in their homes. When a client wants their spouse/friend to also get a massage, I charge for both. You don't just add extra people. and expect to pay the same. It also takes much more time. You also don't substitute one client for another. If my client wanted his wife to get a massage instead of him, I would need to do the intake paperwork and interview. It would become a much longer appointment and a more expensive one.

You do not add on or substitute kids for the AP.

Anonymous
Post 07/27/2019 17:29     Subject: AP taking care of other kids
I am licensed massage therapist. I see a lot of clients in their homes. When a client wants their spouse/friend to also get a massage, I charge for both. You don't just add extra people. and expect to pay the same. It also takes much more time. You also don't substitute one client for another. If my client wanted his wife to get a massage instead of him, I would need to do the intake paperwork and interview. It would become a much longer appointment and a more expensive one.

You do not add on or substitute kids for the AP.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2019 15:38     Subject: AP taking care of other kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Former poster, former au pair
I don’t understand why you all call it a play date? Cousin is staying for 2 weeks, day and night, not just for 2 hours on one day! It’s obviously NOT a play date! All it is is cousins mom wanting to save big money for not hiring an after camp nanny for 2 weeks, and OP helping her. It’s not fair to the am pair to invite other kids and expect her to take care of them!
I’d check with LCC and if an pair will do it, pay her extra bonus or have cousins mom pay her for extra weeks of work.


AP is not taking care of the cousin for 24/day for 2 weeks.

OP stated that AP is scheduled for 15 hours/week. That's about 3 hours a day (assuming 5 days Mon-Fri). So, yes, it is like having a daily weekday playdate for two weeks for an extra 8 year old that AP has ALREADY interacted with, so it's not a strange kid being dumped off.

AP was fine with it, before talking with the friend. AP also only has a few months left. So, OP could offer more money (knowing it may or may not be strictly legal) or ask LCC (honestly, they probably won't care).


You’re not very smart
The cousin will live there for 24 hours 7 days for two weeks. So she will see him all day long
And no, I don’t consider watching somebody for 15 hours a week a play date
So people stop calling it a play date


So, by this reasoning, I can reject AP’s requests to have visitors stay with us because they’ll be here 24/7 instead of the reality of going out sightseeing most of the day, maybe having dinner with us, and sleeping here.

The cousin’s visit only affects the few hours AP is being asked to work, not the entire time. In fact, AP is getting drastically LESS hours because the cousin is coming and the kids will be in camp.

But sure, whine about the price of getting extra free time because it’s not your responsibility....


not the same thing. you are grasping for straws and sound very entitled
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2019 09:03     Subject: AP taking care of other kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Former poster, former au pair
I don’t understand why you all call it a play date? Cousin is staying for 2 weeks, day and night, not just for 2 hours on one day! It’s obviously NOT a play date! All it is is cousins mom wanting to save big money for not hiring an after camp nanny for 2 weeks, and OP helping her. It’s not fair to the am pair to invite other kids and expect her to take care of them!
I’d check with LCC and if an pair will do it, pay her extra bonus or have cousins mom pay her for extra weeks of work.


AP is not taking care of the cousin for 24/day for 2 weeks.

OP stated that AP is scheduled for 15 hours/week. That's about 3 hours a day (assuming 5 days Mon-Fri). So, yes, it is like having a daily weekday playdate for two weeks for an extra 8 year old that AP has ALREADY interacted with, so it's not a strange kid being dumped off.

AP was fine with it, before talking with the friend. AP also only has a few months left. So, OP could offer more money (knowing it may or may not be strictly legal) or ask LCC (honestly, they probably won't care).


You’re not very smart
The cousin will live there for 24 hours 7 days for two weeks. So she will see him all day long
And no, I don’t consider watching somebody for 15 hours a week a play date
So people stop calling it a play date


So, by this reasoning, I can reject AP’s requests to have visitors stay with us because they’ll be here 24/7 instead of the reality of going out sightseeing most of the day, maybe having dinner with us, and sleeping here.

The cousin’s visit only affects the few hours AP is being asked to work, not the entire time. In fact, AP is getting drastically LESS hours because the cousin is coming and the kids will be in camp.

But sure, whine about the price of getting extra free time because it’s not your responsibility....
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2019 18:07     Subject: AP taking care of other kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Former poster, former au pair
I don’t understand why you all call it a play date? Cousin is staying for 2 weeks, day and night, not just for 2 hours on one day! It’s obviously NOT a play date! All it is is cousins mom wanting to save big money for not hiring an after camp nanny for 2 weeks, and OP helping her. It’s not fair to the am pair to invite other kids and expect her to take care of them!
I’d check with LCC and if an pair will do it, pay her extra bonus or have cousins mom pay her for extra weeks of work.


AP is not taking care of the cousin for 24/day for 2 weeks.

OP stated that AP is scheduled for 15 hours/week. That's about 3 hours a day (assuming 5 days Mon-Fri). So, yes, it is like having a daily weekday playdate for two weeks for an extra 8 year old that AP has ALREADY interacted with, so it's not a strange kid being dumped off.

AP was fine with it, before talking with the friend. AP also only has a few months left. So, OP could offer more money (knowing it may or may not be strictly legal) or ask LCC (honestly, they probably won't care).


You’re not very smart
The cousin will live there for 24 hours 7 days for two weeks. So she will see him all day long
And no, I don’t consider watching somebody for 15 hours a week a play date
So people stop calling it a play date
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2019 12:05     Subject: AP taking care of other kids
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No no no no no you can’t change her job at your whim. Even if the au pair program wasn’t regulated by the government how would you feel as an American employee and your boss changed your job one day without first asking you if you would be willing to do so?



This happens all the time in American workplaces. Not saying that means it’s technically ok to add the extra kid for the AP but the idea that an employer can’t change your duties w/o consulting you first is totally inaccurate (unless perhaps you are in a union or under a specific contract)


Totally agree. I receive new projects and tasks all the time at work. This is generally expected in most professional settings. One thing that the agencies use to sell this program to host families is "flexibility"--i.e. your au pairs hours can change. You can't have them take care of other peoples kids though as noted in the rules previously cited.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2019 10:21     Subject: AP taking care of other kids
Anonymous wrote:No no no no no you can’t change her job at your whim. Even if the au pair program wasn’t regulated by the government how would you feel as an American employee and your boss changed your job one day without first asking you if you would be willing to do so?



This happens all the time in American workplaces. Not saying that means it’s technically ok to add the extra kid for the AP but the idea that an employer can’t change your duties w/o consulting you first is totally inaccurate (unless perhaps you are in a union or under a specific contract)