Anonymous
07/23/2019 17:02
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can see getting upset if the family makes it a habit, but this seems really nitpicky if it doesn't happen often. I'm an employer, and sometimes we forget to run the dishwasher overnight, or we forget to switch the laundry load and so the dryer is running when our nanny arrives. It doesn't happen often (once every couple months, maybe?) and we always apologize and thank our nanny for dealing with it. We pay well and always go out of our way to be a good employer, and our nanny doesn't seem to mind. She knows she has a good gig with laid back employers. In turn, I would be very annoyed if she refused to empty the dishwasher every once in awhile.
Would you be upset if your boss asked you to clean the bathrooms, kitchen, vacuum, or empty the trash cans at work every once in awhile? Your boss says they pay you well and they are laid back. They know you have a good gig and they aren’t asking often. In turn, they would be very annoyed if you didn’t do this when they did ask.
I have, I often have cleaned common areas as I am in a service profession and we have shared offices for meetings. So, yes, I clean them before I meet with someone.
Now go clean the kitchen, fridge, bathrooms, microwave, and dishes that your co workers leave in the sink. Then clean the office space when you aren’t meeting someone. Since you are doing it anyway, your boss thinks you can clean every other area.
I have. Its called making yourself useful for job security. You do absolute minimum and they can replace you with someone who is willing to do more, why keep you?
Anonymous
07/23/2019 09:37
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can see getting upset if the family makes it a habit, but this seems really nitpicky if it doesn't happen often. I'm an employer, and sometimes we forget to run the dishwasher overnight, or we forget to switch the laundry load and so the dryer is running when our nanny arrives. It doesn't happen often (once every couple months, maybe?) and we always apologize and thank our nanny for dealing with it. We pay well and always go out of our way to be a good employer, and our nanny doesn't seem to mind. She knows she has a good gig with laid back employers. In turn, I would be very annoyed if she refused to empty the dishwasher every once in awhile.
Would you be upset if your boss asked you to clean the bathrooms, kitchen, vacuum, or empty the trash cans at work every once in awhile? Your boss says they pay you well and they are laid back. They know you have a good gig and they aren’t asking often. In turn, they would be very annoyed if you didn’t do this when they did ask.
I have, I often have cleaned common areas as I am in a service profession and we have shared offices for meetings. So, yes, I clean them before I meet with someone.
Now go clean the kitchen, fridge, bathrooms, microwave, and dishes that your co workers leave in the sink. Then clean the office space when you aren’t meeting someone. Since you are doing it anyway, your boss thinks you can clean every other area.
Anonymous
07/23/2019 09:35
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick bje
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emptying the dishwasher = housekeeping???
She’s not asked to clean the dish washer, she’s asked to empty the dishes out of the dish washer
Look. At. The. Thread. Title.
It starts with the dishwasher, then moves on to other housekeeping duties. Families will test the water to see what they can get away with.
If you are using the home 8-10 hours a day you can contribute to caring for it.
Do you vacuum your office or clean the toilets in your office? Didn't think do! Your house is YOUR responsibility to keep clean, not the Nanny's!
Apples to oranges comparison.. our office has about a couple hundred people who use the common areas, kitchens and bathrooms.
No it’s not. If your nanny is using the home 8-10 hrs since she’s there then guess what, you are using the work area 8-10 hours a day. You should be contributing to caring for it. Or is it only different bc it’s a nanny and therefore beneath you?
You are not getting it. At home its 2-3 adults using the home and everyone knows each other very well. At work you know probably 10% of your coworkers and its a liability issue for the company to let people clean areas everyone might have different allergies need different accommodations etc. the building is likely leased and they have their own cleaning crew in the contract. Also just counting the days, nanny is home during the week and parents during weekends so say everyone takes turns to clean the areas say once every 3 days. At work it about 240 working days and your turn would come probably once a year and that would be an expensive task management job by itself!
You are not getting it. You want your nanny to clean up after you bc you’re paying for it and feel entitled. Heaven forbid someone feels that way about you though. You don’t want to clean up after your co workers or bosses bc, yuck it’s gross. Guess what, that’s how a nanny feels. Hire a cleaning service like your office does. Oh and there are offices that have 5 ppl. And btw, if your nanny gets hurt on the job that’s a liability for you.
Not all offices have cleaners. And, nanny is using the home. She can run a vacuum over the common areas she uses and wipe down the counters and do basic things as part of the job. You want to be a replacement parent when its convenient but not willing to do the actual work. I love how many rant about after a job terminates there is no contact and go on and on about the bonding, and yet, when it comes to being a part of the household, its a hard no.
Keep trying to argue that it’s above you to clean the office area you use. No one wants to be a replacement parent to your child. A caregivers roles is to provide care for your child. You can interpret it anyway you like. You can run a vacuum over the common areas in your office that you use. You can wipe down counters and do basic things as part of your office job. You want to work, have benefits, get retirement, have a 401k but not willing to actually work to make your office area nice. No one is trying to be part of your filthy household and thank goodness I do have a contract. Unorganized ppl such as yourself must be hell to work for.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 22:51
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick bje
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emptying the dishwasher = housekeeping???
She’s not asked to clean the dish washer, she’s asked to empty the dishes out of the dish washer
Look. At. The. Thread. Title.
It starts with the dishwasher, then moves on to other housekeeping duties. Families will test the water to see what they can get away with.
If you are using the home 8-10 hours a day you can contribute to caring for it.
Do you vacuum your office or clean the toilets in your office? Didn't think do! Your house is YOUR responsibility to keep clean, not the Nanny's!
Apples to oranges comparison.. our office has about a couple hundred people who use the common areas, kitchens and bathrooms.
No it’s not. If your nanny is using the home 8-10 hrs since she’s there then guess what, you are using the work area 8-10 hours a day. You should be contributing to caring for it. Or is it only different bc it’s a nanny and therefore beneath you?
You are not getting it. At home its 2-3 adults using the home and everyone knows each other very well. At work you know probably 10% of your coworkers and its a liability issue for the company to let people clean areas everyone might have different allergies need different accommodations etc. the building is likely leased and they have their own cleaning crew in the contract. Also just counting the days, nanny is home during the week and parents during weekends so say everyone takes turns to clean the areas say once every 3 days. At work it about 240 working days and your turn would come probably once a year and that would be an expensive task management job by itself!
You are not getting it. You want your nanny to clean up after you bc you’re paying for it and feel entitled. Heaven forbid someone feels that way about you though. You don’t want to clean up after your co workers or bosses bc, yuck it’s gross. Guess what, that’s how a nanny feels. Hire a cleaning service like your office does. Oh and there are offices that have 5 ppl. And btw, if your nanny gets hurt on the job that’s a liability for you.
Not all offices have cleaners. And, nanny is using the home. She can run a vacuum over the common areas she uses and wipe down the counters and do basic things as part of the job. You want to be a replacement parent when its convenient but not willing to do the actual work. I love how many rant about after a job terminates there is no contact and go on and on about the bonding, and yet, when it comes to being a part of the household, its a hard no.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 22:49
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can see getting upset if the family makes it a habit, but this seems really nitpicky if it doesn't happen often. I'm an employer, and sometimes we forget to run the dishwasher overnight, or we forget to switch the laundry load and so the dryer is running when our nanny arrives. It doesn't happen often (once every couple months, maybe?) and we always apologize and thank our nanny for dealing with it. We pay well and always go out of our way to be a good employer, and our nanny doesn't seem to mind. She knows she has a good gig with laid back employers. In turn, I would be very annoyed if she refused to empty the dishwasher every once in awhile.
Would you be upset if your boss asked you to clean the bathrooms, kitchen, vacuum, or empty the trash cans at work every once in awhile? Your boss says they pay you well and they are laid back. They know you have a good gig and they aren’t asking often. In turn, they would be very annoyed if you didn’t do this when they did ask.
I have, I often have cleaned common areas as I am in a service profession and we have shared offices for meetings. So, yes, I clean them before I meet with someone.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 21:04
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick bje
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emptying the dishwasher = housekeeping???
She’s not asked to clean the dish washer, she’s asked to empty the dishes out of the dish washer
Look. At. The. Thread. Title.
It starts with the dishwasher, then moves on to other housekeeping duties. Families will test the water to see what they can get away with.
If you are using the home 8-10 hours a day you can contribute to caring for it.
Do you vacuum your office or clean the toilets in your office? Didn't think do! Your house is YOUR responsibility to keep clean, not the Nanny's!
Apples to oranges comparison.. our office has about a couple hundred people who use the common areas, kitchens and bathrooms.
No it’s not. If your nanny is using the home 8-10 hrs since she’s there then guess what, you are using the work area 8-10 hours a day. You should be contributing to caring for it. Or is it only different bc it’s a nanny and therefore beneath you?
You are not getting it. At home its 2-3 adults using the home and everyone knows each other very well. At work you know probably 10% of your coworkers and its a liability issue for the company to let people clean areas everyone might have different allergies need different accommodations etc. the building is likely leased and they have their own cleaning crew in the contract. Also just counting the days, nanny is home during the week and parents during weekends so say everyone takes turns to clean the areas say once every 3 days. At work it about 240 working days and your turn would come probably once a year and that would be an expensive task management job by itself!
You are not getting it. You want your nanny to clean up after you bc you’re paying for it and feel entitled. Heaven forbid someone feels that way about you though. You don’t want to clean up after your co workers or bosses bc, yuck it’s gross. Guess what, that’s how a nanny feels. Hire a cleaning service like your office does. Oh and there are offices that have 5 ppl. And btw, if your nanny gets hurt on the job that’s a liability for you.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 19:24
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick bje
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emptying the dishwasher = housekeeping???
She’s not asked to clean the dish washer, she’s asked to empty the dishes out of the dish washer
Look. At. The. Thread. Title.
It starts with the dishwasher, then moves on to other housekeeping duties. Families will test the water to see what they can get away with.
If you are using the home 8-10 hours a day you can contribute to caring for it.
Do you vacuum your office or clean the toilets in your office? Didn't think do! Your house is YOUR responsibility to keep clean, not the Nanny's!
Apples to oranges comparison.. our office has about a couple hundred people who use the common areas, kitchens and bathrooms.
No it’s not. If your nanny is using the home 8-10 hrs since she’s there then guess what, you are using the work area 8-10 hours a day. You should be contributing to caring for it. Or is it only different bc it’s a nanny and therefore beneath you?
You are not getting it. At home its 2-3 adults using the home and everyone knows each other very well. At work you know probably 10% of your coworkers and its a liability issue for the company to let people clean areas everyone might have different allergies need different accommodations etc. the building is likely leased and they have their own cleaning crew in the contract. Also just counting the days, nanny is home during the week and parents during weekends so say everyone takes turns to clean the areas say once every 3 days. At work it about 240 working days and your turn would come probably once a year and that would be an expensive task management job by itself!
Anonymous
07/22/2019 16:37
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can see getting upset if the family makes it a habit, but this seems really nitpicky if it doesn't happen often. I'm an employer, and sometimes we forget to run the dishwasher overnight, or we forget to switch the laundry load and so the dryer is running when our nanny arrives. It doesn't happen often (once every couple months, maybe?) and we always apologize and thank our nanny for dealing with it. We pay well and always go out of our way to be a good employer, and our nanny doesn't seem to mind. She knows she has a good gig with laid back employers. In turn, I would be very annoyed if she refused to empty the dishwasher every once in awhile.
Would you be upset if your boss asked you to clean the bathrooms, kitchen, vacuum, or empty the trash cans at work every once in awhile? Your boss says they pay you well and they are laid back. They know you have a good gig and they aren’t asking often. In turn, they would be very annoyed if you didn’t do this when they did ask.
Do you honestly not see the difference? If you actively use the dishwasher at work, then you contribute to emptying it. When I work with babies, I do not use the dishwasher and do not empty it. When I work with toddlers I use the dishwasher and start adding my own things and therefore contribute to emptying it. As for vacuuming, I do vacuum the baby’s area when they are young and on the floor, then I stop. Neither of these things is even remotely related to being asked to scrub the fridge or toilet.
Disagree. You are nitpicking. Cleaning is cleaning. Do you seriously have reading comprehension? The issue is about job creep and expecting your nanny to clean up after their boss. This would mean even if the nanny didn’t use the dishwasher, the family expected the nanny to wash the dishes left in the sink by them and empty the dishwasher for them. You are using the dishwasher so this doesn’t apply to you. Move along now.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 16:17
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can see getting upset if the family makes it a habit, but this seems really nitpicky if it doesn't happen often. I'm an employer, and sometimes we forget to run the dishwasher overnight, or we forget to switch the laundry load and so the dryer is running when our nanny arrives. It doesn't happen often (once every couple months, maybe?) and we always apologize and thank our nanny for dealing with it. We pay well and always go out of our way to be a good employer, and our nanny doesn't seem to mind. She knows she has a good gig with laid back employers. In turn, I would be very annoyed if she refused to empty the dishwasher every once in awhile.
Would you be upset if your boss asked you to clean the bathrooms, kitchen, vacuum, or empty the trash cans at work every once in awhile? Your boss says they pay you well and they are laid back. They know you have a good gig and they aren’t asking often. In turn, they would be very annoyed if you didn’t do this when they did ask.
Do you honestly not see the difference? If you actively use the dishwasher at work, then you contribute to emptying it. When I work with babies, I do not use the dishwasher and do not empty it. When I work with toddlers I use the dishwasher and start adding my own things and therefore contribute to emptying it. As for vacuuming, I do vacuum the baby’s area when they are young and on the floor, then I stop. Neither of these things is even remotely related to being asked to scrub the fridge or toilet.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 13:12
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
Anonymous wrote:I can see getting upset if the family makes it a habit, but this seems really nitpicky if it doesn't happen often. I'm an employer, and sometimes we forget to run the dishwasher overnight, or we forget to switch the laundry load and so the dryer is running when our nanny arrives. It doesn't happen often (once every couple months, maybe?) and we always apologize and thank our nanny for dealing with it. We pay well and always go out of our way to be a good employer, and our nanny doesn't seem to mind. She knows she has a good gig with laid back employers. In turn, I would be very annoyed if she refused to empty the dishwasher every once in awhile.
Would you be upset if your boss asked you to clean the bathrooms, kitchen, vacuum, or empty the trash cans at work every once in awhile? Your boss says they pay you well and they are laid back. They know you have a good gig and they aren’t asking often. In turn, they would be very annoyed if you didn’t do this when they did ask.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 12:29
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
I can see getting upset if the family makes it a habit, but this seems really nitpicky if it doesn't happen often. I'm an employer, and sometimes we forget to run the dishwasher overnight, or we forget to switch the laundry load and so the dryer is running when our nanny arrives. It doesn't happen often (once every couple months, maybe?) and we always apologize and thank our nanny for dealing with it. We pay well and always go out of our way to be a good employer, and our nanny doesn't seem to mind. She knows she has a good gig with laid back employers. In turn, I would be very annoyed if she refused to empty the dishwasher every once in awhile.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 11:07
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick bje
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emptying the dishwasher = housekeeping???
She’s not asked to clean the dish washer, she’s asked to empty the dishes out of the dish washer
Look. At. The. Thread. Title.
It starts with the dishwasher, then moves on to other housekeeping duties. Families will test the water to see what they can get away with.
If you are using the home 8-10 hours a day you can contribute to caring for it.
Do you vacuum your office or clean the toilets in your office? Didn't think do! Your house is YOUR responsibility to keep clean, not the Nanny's!
Apples to oranges comparison.. our office has about a couple hundred people who use the common areas, kitchens and bathrooms.
No it’s not. If your nanny is using the home 8-10 hrs since she’s there then guess what, you are using the work area 8-10 hours a day. You should be contributing to caring for it. Or is it only different bc it’s a nanny and therefore beneath you?
Anonymous
07/22/2019 10:56
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick bje
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emptying the dishwasher = housekeeping???
She’s not asked to clean the dish washer, she’s asked to empty the dishes out of the dish washer
Look. At. The. Thread. Title.
It starts with the dishwasher, then moves on to other housekeeping duties. Families will test the water to see what they can get away with.
If you are using the home 8-10 hours a day you can contribute to caring for it.
Do you vacuum your office or clean the toilets in your office? Didn't think do! Your house is YOUR responsibility to keep clean, not the Nanny's!
Apples to oranges comparison.. our office has about a couple hundred people who use the common areas, kitchens and bathrooms.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 10:54
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:AGAIN entitied Nannieswe are talking about a DISHWASHER here that collects dishes from many different people
Nobody is taking about cleaning your bosses underwear, organizing their mail, cleaning up their bed room, making their bed
It’s a dish washer!!!! Does it really hurt to empty a few extra clean dishes? I don’t get it, I really don’t!
Not a nanny but, YES, IT IS JOB CREEP. IF you don't mind having duties other than those in your contract and you don't mind giving them free work, fine. But stop judging those who do not like, or want, job creep.
I hope you never try to get a job outside a babysitter as most jobs require other duties as well.
Most not all. Also, those jobs have assigned duties. If your boss is asking you to clean and vacuum the office after the other employees then you are a sucker. You can be a sucker but don’t expect everyone else to follow you.
Anonymous
07/22/2019 10:52
Subject: The dishwasher job creep trick
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emptying the dishwasher = housekeeping???
She’s not asked to clean the dish washer, she’s asked to empty the dishes out of the dish washer
Look. At. The. Thread. Title.
It starts with the dishwasher, then moves on to other housekeeping duties. Families will test the water to see what they can get away with.
If you are using the home 8-10 hours a day you can contribute to caring for it.
Do you vacuum your office or clean the toilets in your office? Didn't think do! Your house is YOUR responsibility to keep clean, not the Nanny's!
+1 and I’ll add...do you wash your co worker’s dishes in the office kitchen? Do you do the supply run? Do you clean out the office fridge?