Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Isn't this essentially what the federal government is doing to all federal employees with furloughs?



Yes. It's also common in industries that shut down during the December holidays that employees have to take vacation time or it is unpaid time off, even though the employee is available to work. Problem here is nannies don't understand the real work world or don't think that they should ever be subjected to the unfairness in it like everybody else.

Honey, let me tell you about the real world. If you go on vacation without paying me I will not be there when you get back. Real enough for you?

That's OK. There are dozens of people waiting for your low skilled job. Real enough for you?

Do you really have such low regard for your own children? Or do you hate yourself that much?

Anonymous wrote:

Isn't this essentially what the federal government is doing to all federal employees with furloughs?



Yes. It's also common in industries that shut down during the December holidays that employees have to take vacation time or it is unpaid time off, even though the employee is available to work. Problem here is nannies don't understand the real work world or don't think that they should ever be subjected to the unfairness in it like everybody else.

Honey, let me tell you about the real world. If you go on vacation without paying me I will not be there when you get back. Real enough for you?

That's OK. There are dozens of people waiting for your low skilled job. Real enough for you?

Anonymous wrote:PS-the government pays it's employees on the books. I have little sympathy for your nanny but less for you, OP.

+1

PS-the government pays it's employees on the books. I have little sympathy for your nanny but less for you, OP.

Well, I think we've done everything to educate this OP first time mom. And comparing government furloughs to this issue is simply disingenuous. Government workers are being furlough one day a week without pay, yes, due to sequestration and budget cuts. Something government workers know might happen ahead of time. An employer who wishes to slight her nanny a week or two's pay so she can go on vacation is a wholly different animal. But I have to admit, it was a good way to sidestep the original question.

"If you aren't upfront about your unusual needs - because paying a nanny 52 weeks a year is standard, just like you'd pay a daycare - then I expect to be paid or I will get another job. "

sigh. you and the other nannies posting similar comments are all assuming the MB actually knows that it is standard and is just not saying anything to keep quiet about it. possible but doesn't make much sense to me since if she's truly being sneaky about it she must know she'll run the risk of nanny quitting once she finds out. MUCH more likely is that the MB is simply thinking it's the same as any other hourly job. that is why unless a family states that they are guaranteeing hours, informed nannies need to ASK. it is the nanny who KNOWS this is standard - surely an experienced nanny is also aware that many first time MBs don't know what is and is not standard though. They need to help educate them. sorry - it's the truth. (Here I am of course assuming that most nannies genuinely want a good fit too and not to simply keep job hopping.)

mbd wrote:If you want to keep her, pay her. If not, don't.

It's really that simple.

If you want to keep her, pay her. If not, don't.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Isn't this essentially what the federal government is doing to all federal employees with furloughs?

Yes. It's also common in industries that shut down during the December holidays that employees have to take vacation time or it is unpaid time off, even though the employee is available to work. Problem here is nannies don't understand the real work world or don't think that they should ever be subjected to the unfairness in it like everybody else.

Honey, let me tell you about the real world. If you go on vacation without paying me I will not be there when you get back. Real enough for you?

I wanted to snap my fingers after you said that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Isn't this essentially what the federal government is doing to all federal employees with furloughs?

Yes. It's also common in industries that shut down during the December holidays that employees have to take vacation time or it is unpaid time off, even though the employee is available to work. Problem here is nannies don't understand the real work world or don't think that they should ever be subjected to the unfairness in it like everybody else.

Honey, let me tell you about the real world. If you go on vacation without paying me I will not be there when you get back. Real enough for you?

+1

If you tell me during our negotiations that there will be X number of weeks you'll be out of town and you don't want to pay me for them, and I accept, that's my problem. Just like if I took a job in an industry where I'd be expected to take unpaid time off during a specific period of the year. If you aren't upfront about your unusual needs - because paying a nanny 52 weeks a year is standard, just like you'd pay a daycare - then I expect to be paid or I will get another job. #realworld

Anonymous wrote:

Isn't this essentially what the federal government is doing to all federal employees with furloughs?

Yes. It's also common in industries that shut down during the December holidays that employees have to take vacation time or it is unpaid time off, even though the employee is available to work. Problem here is nannies don't understand the real work world or don't think that they should ever be subjected to the unfairness in it like everybody else.

Honey, let me tell you about the real world. If you go on vacation without paying me I will not be there when you get back. Real enough for you?

*hissy not bossy

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The question has been posed to employers many times in the past when this same subject has come up-could you afford to give up 1 or 2 weeks pay if your employer didn't need you to work despite the fact that you were willing and available? And they also expected you to be right back at work when they requested? No employer ever answers this one.

Isn't this essentially what the federal government is doing to all federal employees with furloughs?

Yes basically. And everyone affected is throwing a bossy fit. Imagine how it would feel if you made far less money and your employer did it whenever they went on vacation sometimes a week or more at a time.

Isn't this essentially what the federal government is doing to all federal employees with furloughs?

Yes. It's also common in industries that shut down during the December holidays that employees have to take vacation time or it is unpaid time off, even though the employee is available to work. Problem here is nannies don't understand the real work world or don't think that they should ever be subjected to the unfairness in it like everybody else.

Anonymous wrote:The question has been posed to employers many times in the past when this same subject has come up-could you afford to give up 1 or 2 weeks pay if your employer didn't need you to work despite the fact that you were willing and available? And they also expected you to be right back at work when they requested? No employer ever answers this one.

Isn't this essentially what the federal government is doing to all federal employees with furloughs?