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Anonymous wrote:I’m an MD and you can’t compare to teaching. We have more PPE and negative pressure rooms in hospitals. We signed up for this. We have restrictions on number of patients in clinics. And honestly we signed up for this. And if you’re not icu or er and are just in a private practice you’re are in a different rush ballgame

Yep, you are paid accordingly. Let's pay teachers hazard pay.

I think we are on the same team here

Anonymous wrote:I’m an MD and you can’t compare to teaching. We have more PPE and negative pressure rooms in hospitals. We signed up for this. We have restrictions on number of patients in clinics. And honestly we signed up for this. And if you’re not icu or er and are just in a private practice you’re are in a different rush ballgame

Yep, you are paid accordingly. Let's pay teachers hazard pay.

back to the op's topic. that is sucky if things were not going well and she didn't say anything to you about it. and yes, she probably did wait until the vaccine to tell you

I’m an MD and you can’t compare to teaching. We have more PPE and negative pressure rooms in hospitals. We signed up for this. We have restrictions on number of patients in clinics. And honestly we signed up for this. And if you’re not icu or er and are just in a private practice you’re are in a different rush ballgame

Anonymous wrote:None of this matters, the teachers are coping out big time. I go to work everyday as a doctor because it's my duty and I live with a multigenerational house. I went to the bank the other day and guess what, all the bank workers were there, on site. Do teachers to to the grocery store? Guess what, someone is on site for that? Take out food, yup. Your utilities, cell phone, internet? Guess what, someone somewhere is on site for those jobs. I'm so disappointed that teachers are opting not to go back when they can all be vaccinated. It's what you signed up for, teaching children. Just like I signed up to take care of you when you get sick, do your duty. You have a moral obligation.

How much do you get paid as a doctor? Doctors are always at risk of exposure to contagious disease as part of their job, and they are compensated for it financially. Teachers are allowed to decide that their paltry salary isn't worth the risk to them or their families. If we paid teachers what they're worth, perhaps they would think it was worth it to show up in person.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather my young, flighty au pair get the vaccine and then leave - because she’s immature but also scared, that’s something i can explain to my kids.
Their teachers using their status as teachers to get vaccinated and still not returning to teaching in person is not something I can get behind. They’re both unethical but I would hope experienced and (formerly) dedicated teachers would know better. What kind of message are they sending their students?

Sorry, can't get behind your hatred of teachers. Next.

I don’t hate teachers. I used to be a teacher and I love teachers, but I don’t love teachers who aren’t doing their jobs. Our school made the bizarre decision to allow teachers to remain at home for any reason. So we have some classes with teachers in person and most without. The kids in those classes are suffering, and now that teachers can use their status as teachers to get vaccinated but then they aren’t coming to teach in person. That’s not cool.

Maybe they have a vulnerable child at home who can't get vaccinated until 2022!

In this case, no. These teachers are young with no kids (and unmarried). One teacher has one child who is attending hybrid school. It’s possible some live with other people but it’s not likely that over 3/4 of the faculty have extenuating circumstances that prevent them from teaching in person once vaccinated.

Newsflash: unmarried people can have children, too. Some of us even do that and hire au pairs and post on this board!

No wayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! And they might, gulp, actually have elderly relatives living with them too? In what universe?

I never said that unmarried people couldn’t or don’t have kids. I said that these particular teachers are childless and single. If they live with elderly relatives or have another vulnerability then why not explain to families who are left completely in the dark as to what these teachers are doing? Details not needed but right now it simply feels like there are a majority of teachers who just don’t want to come in.

Their living situation or their relative's medical conditions (or their own) are none of your business. Maybe they're pregnant and don't want to get vaccinated for that reason? I have a risky medical condition and was a teacher long ago. I only disclosed it to ONE family, ONCE, because my student got diagnosed with the same thing, and he and his parents were terrified and looking for doctors who could treat it. Otherwise, no one's business but mine.

Anonymous wrote:None of this matters, the teachers are coping out big time. I go to work everyday as a doctor because it's my duty and I live with a multigenerational house. I went to the bank the other day and guess what, all the bank workers were there, on site. Do teachers to to the grocery store? Guess what, someone is on site for that? Take out food, yup. Your utilities, cell phone, internet? Guess what, someone somewhere is on site for those jobs. I'm so disappointed that teachers are opting not to go back when they can all be vaccinated. It's what you signed up for, teaching children. Just like I signed up to take care of you when you get sick, do your duty. You have a moral obligation.

But kids are being taught though. Maybe not the ideal way but they are being taught.

Kids currently have no protection for COVID-19 both getting it and spreading it and while the odds for kids to have a bad case is low, low isn’t null as you know as a doctor and kids might have vulnerable people in their close vicinity. Some kids might be high-risk or vulnerable. Yes those kids could stay home but how ableist is it to force for schools opening back up knowing it will isolate kids that are already struggling and already are likely to be missing out in some ways.

I am a former teacher and I wouldn’t be for the reopening of schools because it is unfair to disable or high-risks kids (cancer/respiratory diseases etc...) to force them to miss out on school and force schools to become inaccessible to them when we don’t have to and when kids are still being taught. Even if not ninths most ideal conditions.

None of this matters, the teachers are coping out big time. I go to work everyday as a doctor because it's my duty and I live with a multigenerational house. I went to the bank the other day and guess what, all the bank workers were there, on site. Do teachers to to the grocery store? Guess what, someone is on site for that? Take out food, yup. Your utilities, cell phone, internet? Guess what, someone somewhere is on site for those jobs. I'm so disappointed that teachers are opting not to go back when they can all be vaccinated. It's what you signed up for, teaching children. Just like I signed up to take care of you when you get sick, do your duty. You have a moral obligation.