Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 14:13     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:Agreed - this thread is out of control. OP, I think you did the right thing and I think that most actual host families would say the same.


There is a poster who is trolling this AP forums, she is not a HM or AP but has nothing better to do with her time. Most APs and HFs are actually reasonable people and understand what emergencies mean.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 14:05     Subject: power outage
Agreed - this thread is out of control. OP, I think you did the right thing and I think that most actual host families would say the same.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 13:53     Subject: power outage
is this thread for real? All family members are displaced and folks are upset that the au pair didn't get her own bedroom? if my au pair was upset about that, it would be rematach time. it was for a weekend. I really don't get some of you.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 12:24     Subject: power outage
Also "suitable private bedroom" is not a defined term, nor does the statute address emergency events or vacations. A futon may be a suitable private bedroom in an emergency or vacation setting, so long as it's discussed beforehand and efforts are made so that the au pair gets uninterrupted sleep.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 10:32     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is supposed to be "part of the family". My family would roll with this situation and use the futon or the couch for a night or two. Unless someone had major medical issues, they would be doing the same.


Nobody in your family has a legal right to a private bedroom. AP does, due to the wording of the legislation surrounding the program.


Well, OP pays the mortgage.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2020 10:32     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would not rent a hotel room in such a circumstance. I would offer the AP to come and sleep on the couch. I would then give her the next day off. Since you are really only required to provide a separate bedroom when she’s working. So the bedroom would be the night before working - which insures she’s rested, rinse and repeat until power is back on. Families who take APs on vacation can have them share with kids so long as they are not working. Same principle.


+1. Now let see what argument the RULE FOLLOWERS will come up with! Because they are going to find something else...


Nowhere in the legislation say a bedroom except in xyz cases. You’re supposed to provide a bedroom. That’s it.


Np here. There’s a bedroom in the house with no power. Would that be following the rules? Technically yes. But hardly within the spirit. Sometimes life throws a temporary curveball and then everyone needs to roll with it for a minute.


I’d love to see how OP would attempt to rationalize that...


OP here--don't know why I am dragged into this discussion but sure, since we are all being technical here (at least some of us), I guess it would be "within the rules". I didn't offer her to stay in the house without power though. Whoopes
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2020 20:42     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is supposed to be "part of the family". My family would roll with this situation and use the futon or the couch for a night or two. Unless someone had major medical issues, they would be doing the same.


Nobody in your family has a legal right to a private bedroom. AP does, due to the wording of the legislation surrounding the program.


Yeah yeah we got it Non OP or HM person.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2020 20:23     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:She is supposed to be "part of the family". My family would roll with this situation and use the futon or the couch for a night or two. Unless someone had major medical issues, they would be doing the same.


Nobody in your family has a legal right to a private bedroom. AP does, due to the wording of the legislation surrounding the program.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2020 20:10     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what an LCC would say about this issue. If I were in the situation, I probably wouldn’t think twice about bringing her along to my sisters and then offering her the futon room. It is a private space with somewhere suitable to sleep. I don’t see anything wrong with that. It is not an ideal situation for anyone and it is only temporary. Did you have her working or on duty during this time - or was she off duty?


As long as the futon room has a door that can close, and it’s considered a bedroom for the duration (no kids allowed in), it would have been fine. But it’s the playroom, which is not something the kids would appreciate. Therefore, AP gets bedroom, HP gets futon in playroom and kids get living room. Or AP gets bedroom, kids get playroom with futon, HP gets couch in living room.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2020 20:06     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would not rent a hotel room in such a circumstance. I would offer the AP to come and sleep on the couch. I would then give her the next day off. Since you are really only required to provide a separate bedroom when she’s working. So the bedroom would be the night before working - which insures she’s rested, rinse and repeat until power is back on. Families who take APs on vacation can have them share with kids so long as they are not working. Same principle.


+1. Now let see what argument the RULE FOLLOWERS will come up with! Because they are going to find something else...


Nowhere in the legislation say a bedroom except in xyz cases. You’re supposed to provide a bedroom. That’s it.


Since you are so sure, why don't point out the legislation that says you are supposed to provide bedroom at all time here? Different agencies have different rules on that!


“ (6) Place the au pair with a family who cannot provide the au pair with a suitable private bedroom;”

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=1bc531bf257789e45b3049bff8b50d64&r=PART&n=22y1.0.1.7.35#se22.1.62_131

As I said, no provision for anything BUT a private bedroom.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2020 20:00     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would not rent a hotel room in such a circumstance. I would offer the AP to come and sleep on the couch. I would then give her the next day off. Since you are really only required to provide a separate bedroom when she’s working. So the bedroom would be the night before working - which insures she’s rested, rinse and repeat until power is back on. Families who take APs on vacation can have them share with kids so long as they are not working. Same principle.


+1. Now let see what argument the RULE FOLLOWERS will come up with! Because they are going to find something else...


Nowhere in the legislation say a bedroom except in xyz cases. You’re supposed to provide a bedroom. That’s it.


Np here. There’s a bedroom in the house with no power. Would that be following the rules? Technically yes. But hardly within the spirit. Sometimes life throws a temporary curveball and then everyone needs to roll with it for a minute.


I’d love to see how OP would attempt to rationalize that...
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2020 12:40     Subject: power outage
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what an LCC would say about this issue. If I were in the situation, I probably wouldn’t think twice about bringing her along to my sisters and then offering her the futon room. It is a private space with somewhere suitable to sleep. I don’t see anything wrong with that. It is not an ideal situation for anyone and it is only temporary. Did you have her working or on duty during this time - or was she off duty?


OP here---she was off-duty.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2020 15:47     Subject: power outage
I wonder what an LCC would say about this issue. If I were in the situation, I probably wouldn’t think twice about bringing her along to my sisters and then offering her the futon room. It is a private space with somewhere suitable to sleep. I don’t see anything wrong with that. It is not an ideal situation for anyone and it is only temporary. Did you have her working or on duty during this time - or was she off duty?
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2020 14:17     Subject: power outage
She is supposed to be "part of the family". My family would roll with this situation and use the futon or the couch for a night or two. Unless someone had major medical issues, they would be doing the same.