to pp: i have two nights a year where i have to stay until 7 for parent teacher conferences-one in the fall and one in the spring. beyond that, every day i get off at 2:50. we don't have after school programs at our site and i don't have other obligations outside of school hours. i do get free health care-my employee contribution is $0 per paycheck, biweekly for twelve months a year. i do not grade papers, as i teach special ed and most of my students do not write, much less write a full length paper. i have general curriculum guidelines (ex. april is national poetry month, earth day is coming up) but i have no other lesson plan obligations. the administration is not allowed to rote collect lesson plans or require you to post them, per union rules. they are for your own use.

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Anonymous wrote:sure, being a nanny was easier than being a teacher. but as a teacher i get free health insurance/dental/vision, a pension, job security and union benefits, ten sick days and three personal days, summers off, +1,000,000 other things. i don't have to wash anyone's dishes, change diapers, or awkwardly try to keep the kids away from their parents who insist on staying home but not interacting with their children. i'm off work at 2:50 every day, no exception, not 8pm. totally different job, whether you are doing educational activities with the kids or not.

How much freedom do you have with lesson plans?
How do you manage the "fast" vs "slow" learners?

To add to this...How much of your weekends are spent grading? How much of your day is spent dealing with behavior? How many events outside of school hours are you required to attend which means you aren’t getting off at 2:50 (back to school night, parent conferences, international night, etc.). Also, you do not get free health care, you get a better deal than most but if you have a family on your health care you are still spending $300-$600 a paycheck. There is a reason the burnout for teachers is high.

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It's an absolute fact that your child's first three years are the most important years of development. That's precisely why they're called the "foundational years".

If there's a weak foundation, you should anticipate years of problems, perhaps even a lifetime of problems.

Why don't people understand this??

Anyone?

Anonymous wrote:sure, being a nanny was easier than being a teacher. but as a teacher i get free health insurance/dental/vision, a pension, job security and union benefits, ten sick days and three personal days, summers off, +1,000,000 other things. i don't have to wash anyone's dishes, change diapers, or awkwardly try to keep the kids away from their parents who insist on staying home but not interacting with their children. i'm off work at 2:50 every day, no exception, not 8pm. totally different job, whether you are doing educational activities with the kids or not.

How much freedom do you have with lesson plans?
How do you manage the "fast" vs "slow" learners?

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If children had a better foundation during the early (gasp!) foundational years (0-3), they would need fewer special ed teachers when they got to school.

Early investment in your child's development can avoid unnecessary problems later on.

Think about it. And here's a hint: If someone wants to put your child in front of the idiot box, fire them. Your child deserves better.

You do realize you have no idea what you are talking about and that's not how SN works. SN aren't due to neglect in most situations.

Is your child doing screen today, instead of being outside?

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Anonymous wrote:people have unrealistic expectations about what $20/hour looks like. i was a nanny up until last year, and now i am a teacher. if i want to work in home instruction i make $47/hour. you are not going to attract a teacher/nanny for $20. i would consider sitting at night with no interaction with the child for $20/hour-just as a warm body. i would not cook, clean, play, or teach for that. i love kids, but you can't expect nanny/babysitting wages to remain stagnant when cost of living does not.

If you have professional degrees and teaching experience, then yes, a parent will pay $47 for a one or two hour session a week or few times a week with their child but very few are going to pay a nanny that much. $20 an hour is reasonable. This is not a skilled job that requires professional degrees and licensure, like a teacher does.

Being a nanny should be a skilled job that requires a professional degree like a teacher. The first three years are the most important and having a nanny who is essentially a housekeeper treating the baby like a sack of potatoes is such a waste of potential. I do hope the importance of narration, engagement and sensory exposure become the norm and the profession of being a nanny changes.

No, it shouldn't but if you feel you need to to justify it, go for it. Sensory stuff is a bunch of bunk created by OT's to justify services. Narration and engagement... hmmm... ok.

Go work in the school system and your opinion will change drastically.

I have spent many year working with SN kids and have one. My child has been in years of services and many evaluations/appointments. Your bunk of stimulation is not going to resolve true SN. It helps but its not a cure. There is no cure only supports to get the child as high functioning as possible. Try having your own kid with SN before preaching. Its very different having your own child and being a nanny for 8-10 hours a day. I've been a nanny, babysitter, day care worker, and much more.

Who said anything about SN kids? Sensory exposure is necessary and beneficial to normally developing kids!! Stop your unnecessary preaching!!

Thank you Pp! To the other woman bringing up SN...No one mentioned SN and even you admit it helps so I’m confused why you are on your soapbox spouting nothing.

Anonymous wrote:sure, being a nanny was easier than being a teacher. but as a teacher i get free health insurance/dental/vision, a pension, job security and union benefits, ten sick days and three personal days, summers off, +1,000,000 other things. i don't have to wash anyone's dishes, change diapers, or awkwardly try to keep the kids away from their parents who insist on staying home but not interacting with their children. i'm off work at 2:50 every day, no exception, not 8pm. totally different job, whether you are doing educational activities with the kids or not.

As long as someone wants to hire you with an acceptable benefits package, you're allowed the job you want. It's ok.

sure, being a nanny was easier than being a teacher. but as a teacher i get free health insurance/dental/vision, a pension, job security and union benefits, ten sick days and three personal days, summers off, +1,000,000 other things. i don't have to wash anyone's dishes, change diapers, or awkwardly try to keep the kids away from their parents who insist on staying home but not interacting with their children. i'm off work at 2:50 every day, no exception, not 8pm. totally different job, whether you are doing educational activities with the kids or not.

It's an absolute fact that your child's first three years are the most important years of development. That's precisely why they're called the "foundational years".

If there's a weak foundation, you should anticipate years of problems, perhaps even a lifetime of problems.

Why don't people understand this??

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:people have unrealistic expectations about what $20/hour looks like. i was a nanny up until last year, and now i am a teacher. if i want to work in home instruction i make $47/hour. you are not going to attract a teacher/nanny for $20. i would consider sitting at night with no interaction with the child for $20/hour-just as a warm body. i would not cook, clean, play, or teach for that. i love kids, but you can't expect nanny/babysitting wages to remain stagnant when cost of living does not.

If you have professional degrees and teaching experience, then yes, a parent will pay $47 for a one or two hour session a week or few times a week with their child but very few are going to pay a nanny that much. $20 an hour is reasonable. This is not a skilled job that requires professional degrees and licensure, like a teacher does.

Being a nanny should be a skilled job that requires a professional degree like a teacher. The first three years are the most important and having a nanny who is essentially a housekeeper treating the baby like a sack of potatoes is such a waste of potential. I do hope the importance of narration, engagement and sensory exposure become the norm and the profession of being a nanny changes.

No, it shouldn't but if you feel you need to to justify it, go for it. Sensory stuff is a bunch of bunk created by OT's to justify services. Narration and engagement... hmmm... ok.

Go work in the school system and your opinion will change drastically.

I have spent many year working with SN kids and have one. My child has been in years of services and many evaluations/appointments. Your bunk of stimulation is not going to resolve true SN. It helps but its not a cure. There is no cure only supports to get the child as high functioning as possible. Try having your own kid with SN before preaching. Its very different having your own child and being a nanny for 8-10 hours a day. I've been a nanny, babysitter, day care worker, and much more.

Who said anything about SN kids? Sensory exposure is necessary and beneficial to normally developing kids!! Stop your unnecessary preaching!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:people have unrealistic expectations about what $20/hour looks like. i was a nanny up until last year, and now i am a teacher. if i want to work in home instruction i make $47/hour. you are not going to attract a teacher/nanny for $20. i would consider sitting at night with no interaction with the child for $20/hour-just as a warm body. i would not cook, clean, play, or teach for that. i love kids, but you can't expect nanny/babysitting wages to remain stagnant when cost of living does not.

If you have professional degrees and teaching experience, then yes, a parent will pay $47 for a one or two hour session a week or few times a week with their child but very few are going to pay a nanny that much. $20 an hour is reasonable. This is not a skilled job that requires professional degrees and licensure, like a teacher does.

Being a nanny should be a skilled job that requires a professional degree like a teacher. The first three years are the most important and having a nanny who is essentially a housekeeper treating the baby like a sack of potatoes is such a waste of potential. I do hope the importance of narration, engagement and sensory exposure become the norm and the profession of being a nanny changes.

No, it shouldn't but if you feel you need to to justify it, go for it. Sensory stuff is a bunch of bunk created by OT's to justify services. Narration and engagement... hmmm... ok.

Go work in the school system and your opinion will change drastically.

I have spent many year working with SN kids and have one. My child has been in years of services and many evaluations/appointments. Your bunk of stimulation is not going to resolve true SN. It helps but its not a cure. There is no cure only supports to get the child as high functioning as possible. Try having your own kid with SN before preaching. Its very different having your own child and being a nanny for 8-10 hours a day. I've been a nanny, babysitter, day care worker, and much more.

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Anonymous wrote:
If children had a better foundation during the early (gasp!) foundational years (0-3), they would need fewer special ed teachers when they got to school.

Early investment in your child's development can avoid unnecessary problems later on.

Think about it. And here's a hint: If someone wants to put your child in front of the idiot box, fire them. Your child deserves better.

You do realize you have no idea what you are talking about and that's not how SN works. SN aren't due to neglect in most situations.

Sub-par care often has consequences. Sad.

But true, sometimes problems are due to bad genes.

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Anonymous wrote:people have unrealistic expectations about what $20/hour looks like. i was a nanny up until last year, and now i am a teacher. if i want to work in home instruction i make $47/hour. you are not going to attract a teacher/nanny for $20. i would consider sitting at night with no interaction with the child for $20/hour-just as a warm body. i would not cook, clean, play, or teach for that. i love kids, but you can't expect nanny/babysitting wages to remain stagnant when cost of living does not.

If you have professional degrees and teaching experience, then yes, a parent will pay $47 for a one or two hour session a week or few times a week with their child but very few are going to pay a nanny that much. $20 an hour is reasonable. This is not a skilled job that requires professional degrees and licensure, like a teacher does.

Being a nanny should be a skilled job that requires a professional degree like a teacher. The first three years are the most important and having a nanny who is essentially a housekeeper treating the baby like a sack of potatoes is such a waste of potential. I do hope the importance of narration, engagement and sensory exposure become the norm and the profession of being a nanny changes.

No, it shouldn't but if you feel you need to to justify it, go for it. Sensory stuff is a bunch of bunk created by OT's to justify services. Narration and engagement... hmmm... ok.

Go work in the school system and your opinion will change drastically.

+ 1. Go to work in Developmental Pediatrician’s office and your opinion will change drastically.

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Anonymous wrote:people have unrealistic expectations about what $20/hour looks like. i was a nanny up until last year, and now i am a teacher. if i want to work in home instruction i make $47/hour. you are not going to attract a teacher/nanny for $20. i would consider sitting at night with no interaction with the child for $20/hour-just as a warm body. i would not cook, clean, play, or teach for that. i love kids, but you can't expect nanny/babysitting wages to remain stagnant when cost of living does not.

If you have professional degrees and teaching experience, then yes, a parent will pay $47 for a one or two hour session a week or few times a week with their child but very few are going to pay a nanny that much. $20 an hour is reasonable. This is not a skilled job that requires professional degrees and licensure, like a teacher does.

Being a nanny should be a skilled job that requires a professional degree like a teacher. The first three years are the most important and having a nanny who is essentially a housekeeper treating the baby like a sack of potatoes is such a waste of potential. I do hope the importance of narration, engagement and sensory exposure become the norm and the profession of being a nanny changes.

No, it shouldn't but if you feel you need to to justify it, go for it. Sensory stuff is a bunch of bunk created by OT's to justify services. Narration and engagement... hmmm... ok.

Go work in the school system and your opinion will change drastically.

Anonymous wrote:
If children had a better foundation during the early (gasp!) foundational years (0-3), they would need fewer special ed teachers when they got to school.

Early investment in your child's development can avoid unnecessary problems later on.

Think about it. And here's a hint: If someone wants to put your child in front of the idiot box, fire them. Your child deserves better.

You do realize you have no idea what you are talking about and that's not how SN works. SN aren't due to neglect in most situations.