Anonymous wrote:If hours are regular and only 40, why does OP want live in v live out? Is he thinking he can pay lower rate since he has the extra bedroom and thinks he’s saving the nanny rent?

Anonymous wrote:OP here. After careful consideration and quite frankly in no small part to this forum, we're abandoning the idea of a live in nanny.

We'll start looking for a live-out nanny. If we feel we need in home help, we'll pursue the au pair program (for better or worse) which has more well defined parameters.

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Be careful about how you advertise for this job. Because what I'm reading through is you're going to expect more from the person than what is expected.
Why mentioning the occasionel help if you don't expect it?
Integrating with your family ... vs a job. WRONG. This is a job and you are the employer. This is not a cousin that's going to join your family but a worker.

Keep things professional and you'll be happy

-Nanny

OP here. May be I didn't word it as well as I could have with the "occasional help" thing.

What I was trying to say was that assuming your 8 hour day is up, and since you're a live-in, if you end up let's say making dinner for the babies (which would be outside of the 8 hours) WITHOUT our asking, then that's welcome, but not expected. You can as easily say No and that's perfectly acceptable.

As far as "integrating with our family..." the point I was trying to get across was specifically with the live-in situation, since we've never had that before. You're gonna be living with us, eating with us, relaxing with us and what not. It'd be nice to consider that person as part of our household than an employee. With an employee, I'd ask them to leave the family room in the evening, if we're relaxing there, vs "integrating with our family" which implies you're as much a part of our family as us, and we don't feel awkward around you during non-working hours.

I hope that came across the way I'm thinking in my head...

nooooooo, no no no no.

We have a live in who basically has her own apartment. We are in DC, she is in the separate basement apartment. She has her own kitchen, television room, bathroom, bedroom, and her own entrance. I'm absolutely POSITIVE that she has no desire to lounge about in our family room in the evening. NO live in nanny would ever want to do that.

Get an AuPair if you want to "host" someone.

Actually, I live in because I want the relationship with the kids that comes from being a part of the family. While I have my own area, I also join the family randomly, and I would NOT take a job with clearly defined times about when I was allowed in the common areas.

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Be careful about how you advertise for this job. Because what I'm reading through is you're going to expect more from the person than what is expected.
Why mentioning the occasionel help if you don't expect it?
Integrating with your family ... vs a job. WRONG. This is a job and you are the employer. This is not a cousin that's going to join your family but a worker.

Keep things professional and you'll be happy

-Nanny

OP here. May be I didn't word it as well as I could have with the "occasional help" thing.

What I was trying to say was that assuming your 8 hour day is up, and since you're a live-in, if you end up let's say making dinner for the babies (which would be outside of the 8 hours) WITHOUT our asking, then that's welcome, but not expected. You can as easily say No and that's perfectly acceptable.

As far as "integrating with our family..." the point I was trying to get across was specifically with the live-in situation, since we've never had that before. You're gonna be living with us, eating with us, relaxing with us and what not. It'd be nice to consider that person as part of our household than an employee. With an employee, I'd ask them to leave the family room in the evening, if we're relaxing there, vs "integrating with our family" which implies you're as much a part of our family as us, and we don't feel awkward around you during non-working hours.

I hope that came across the way I'm thinking in my head...

nooooooo, no no no no.

We have a live in who basically has her own apartment. We are in DC, she is in the separate basement apartment. She has her own kitchen, television room, bathroom, bedroom, and her own entrance. I'm absolutely POSITIVE that she has no desire to lounge about in our family room in the evening. NO live in nanny would ever want to do that.

Get an AuPair if you want to "host" someone.

Anonymous wrote:OP, just some advice - state what you're lookiing for, what your minimum requirements are, and possibly what your compensation range might be. It will help you streamline the process and will be more clear. You'll also look more decisive and professional. For instance:

Seeking nanny with experience working with twins for live-in position. 40 hours per week guaranteed, competitive vacation package, private room/bath/living area, and vehicle provided for use during work hours.

You must be: legal to work in the US, have a clean driving record and feel comfortable driving a minivan, able to easily run after/lift/carry twin toddlers, non-smoking, fluent in english, able to provide excellent references, and fully trustworthy.

The ideal applicant will have significant experience with twins (infancy through preschool), prior experience as a live-in (w/ references for that position(s), will love the challenges of working with twins and at this age group, etc...

State all your requirements around the needs of the position (like the able to run and lift versus asking age).

I would really encourage you to get some more advice, perhaps speak with an agency or two (it will give you great insight as to how to think about the job you're filling when you hear how an agency gathers information), and put some time into reading sample contract language and best practices. There is lots of info on the web if you do a search, and in forums like these.

You sound very well-intentioned but very, very green at this and you can screw up this hire pretty easily if you're not careful. Some of the way you're phrasing your questions above is actually illegal so I really encourage you to do some research.

Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:Ethnicity? O_O

Sorry, force of habit. I own a software company, and I picked some of these bits from the information we ask from prospective engineers.

THAT IS ILLEGAL. ALSO ASKING THE AGE IS ILLEGAL.

jesus, you are an absolute train wreck.

lmao omg get a grip PP. PLENTY of people ask..it's not a big deal. If you are so offended, don't apply. Plain and simple.

Get a clue. You are not allowed to ask unless you havr an affirmative action plan. And even in that case its optional for the applicant to answer.

All this illustrates, is that a bunch of bozo women are hiring nannies that have no clue.

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Anonymous wrote:Ethnicity? O_O

Sorry, force of habit. I own a software company, and I picked some of these bits from the information we ask from prospective engineers.

THAT IS ILLEGAL. ALSO ASKING THE AGE IS ILLEGAL.

jesus, you are an absolute train wreck.

lmao omg get a grip PP. PLENTY of people ask..it's not a big deal. If you are so offended, don't apply. Plain and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:Ethnicity? O_O

Sorry, force of habit. I own a software company, and I picked some of these bits from the information we ask from prospective engineers.

THAT IS ILLEGAL. ALSO ASKING THE AGE IS ILLEGAL.

jesus, you are an absolute train wreck.

Anonymous wrote:No, OP. There is absolutely no excuse for asking ethnicity.

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Anonymous wrote:Ethnicity? O_O

Sorry, force of habit. I own a software company, and I picked some of these bits from the information we ask from prospective engineers.