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Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

Anyone?

Seriously? This thread is getting out of hand. It's really obnoxious to make fun of anyone's religious beliefs and customs. If anyone made light of a nanny's Christmas traditions what do you think the reaction would be here? Nothing happens if a meat fork and a diary fork are on the same counter.

Honestly I was just curious, I wrote nothing but a simple question, you took it offensively. I am curious because if the separation is so strict as to require separate dishwasher, sinks, plates, drawers etc.... how can you put a spoon with milk on it and a fork with bits of meat on the same counter... the counter would need to be destroyed. It just doesn't make sense.

No, the counter wouldn't need to be destroyed. Firstly, it'd be the nanny's "sin" (though we don't really do sins, but I'm using word you'd understand) rather than the family's, and secondly, you just would clean the counter extra well. Probably the way you would before Passover.

If a Jewish person committed such a "sin," what would you call it, rather than a "sin"?

Ummm ... a mistake? We don't "do" sins. There's a hebrew phrase for something that basically means "an act against God." So maybe it'd be called that. There's another hebrew phrase that means like, "not according to the torah" or more loosely "not the Jewish way."

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

Anyone?

Seriously? This thread is getting out of hand. It's really obnoxious to make fun of anyone's religious beliefs and customs. If anyone made light of a nanny's Christmas traditions what do you think the reaction would be here? Nothing happens if a meat fork and a diary fork are on the same counter.

Honestly I was just curious, I wrote nothing but a simple question, you took it offensively. I am curious because if the separation is so strict as to require separate dishwasher, sinks, plates, drawers etc.... how can you put a spoon with milk on it and a fork with bits of meat on the same counter... the counter would need to be destroyed. It just doesn't make sense.

No, the counter wouldn't need to be destroyed. Firstly, it'd be the nanny's "sin" (though we don't really do sins, but I'm using word you'd understand) rather than the family's, and secondly, you just would clean the counter extra well. Probably the way you would before Passover.

If a Jewish person committed such a "sin," what would you call it, rather than a "sin"?

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

Anyone?

Seriously? This thread is getting out of hand. It's really obnoxious to make fun of anyone's religious beliefs and customs. If anyone made light of a nanny's Christmas traditions what do you think the reaction would be here? Nothing happens if a meat fork and a diary fork are on the same counter.

Honestly I was just curious, I wrote nothing but a simple question, you took it offensively. I am curious because if the separation is so strict as to require separate dishwasher, sinks, plates, drawers etc.... how can you put a spoon with milk on it and a fork with bits of meat on the same counter... the counter would need to be destroyed. It just doesn't make sense.

No, the counter wouldn't need to be destroyed. Firstly, it'd be the nanny's "sin" (though we don't really do sins, but I'm using word you'd understand) rather than the family's, and secondly, you just would clean the counter extra well. Probably the way you would before Passover.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

Anyone?

Seriously? This thread is getting out of hand. It's really obnoxious to make fun of anyone's religious beliefs and customs. If anyone made light of a nanny's Christmas traditions what do you think the reaction would be here? Nothing happens if a meat fork and a diary fork are on the same counter.

Honestly I was just curious, I wrote nothing but a simple question, you took it offensively. I am curious because if the separation is so strict as to require separate dishwasher, sinks, plates, drawers etc.... how can you put a spoon with milk on it and a fork with bits of meat on the same counter... the counter would need to be destroyed. It just doesn't make sense.

I apologize that I took your question the wrong way and I'm sorry for my response towards you. I don't actually keep kosher and don't fully understand the rules themselves. I admit it doesn't always make sense to me either BUT if those are someone's religious beliefs I don't think it's up to anyone to ridicule or judge them for it. The OP here was just asking an honest question but what really started to offend me was the defense of someone (not OP) who couldn't be bothered to respect an employers religious beliefs. I honestly don't think it is extra work to put the silverware in it's proper place that it warrants extra pay but if someone thinks they deserve it fine. But please don't say it's ok to just ignore their beliefs and wishes. That is just SO offensive and that's what is bothering me about this thread. PP I'm sorry if my frustration was misdirected at you for asking an honest question.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

Anyone?

Seriously? This thread is getting out of hand. It's really obnoxious to make fun of anyone's religious beliefs and customs. If anyone made light of a nanny's Christmas traditions what do you think the reaction would be here? Nothing happens if a meat fork and a diary fork are on the same counter.

Honestly I was just curious, I wrote nothing but a simple question, you took it offensively. I am curious because if the separation is so strict as to require separate dishwasher, sinks, plates, drawers etc.... how can you put a spoon with milk on it and a fork with bits of meat on the same counter... the counter would need to be destroyed. It just doesn't make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

Anyone?

Seriously? This thread is getting out of hand. It's really obnoxious to make fun of anyone's religious beliefs and customs. If anyone made light of a nanny's Christmas traditions what do you think the reaction would be here? Nothing happens if a meat fork and a diary fork are on the same counter.

My, you're nasty so early in the morning. There's nothing wrong with someone asking a question. You're allowed to ask questions too. If you don't like it, move on.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

Anyone?

Seriously? This thread is getting out of hand. It's really obnoxious to make fun of anyone's religious beliefs and customs. If anyone made light of a nanny's Christmas traditions what do you think the reaction would be here? Nothing happens if a meat fork and a diary fork are on the same counter.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

Anyone?

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This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

Exactly.

Call it whatever makes you feel good. The bottom line is the same and you still have a problem.

This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

Exactly.

Anonymous wrote:This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

If you put a meat fork and dairy spoon on the same counter what happens?

This is such a ridiculous thread.

I am a Jewish MB and keep a kosher home. My nanny has worked for many kosher-keeping families and has no problems putting the dairy forks in the dairy drawer and the meat forks in the meat drawer. If she doesnt know where to put something, she leaves it on the counter.

She doesnt mix meat and dairy for the kids food, same way she would avoid certain foods if we had allergies. Its really not that big a deal and requires neither special training nor extra pay.

Any nanny who is purposely putting forks in the wrong drawer is lazy and disrespectful and that has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a poor work ethic.

I think this is not going to work. Micromanagers are the worst. You must be flexible, are they going to tolerate your reqeuests for religious holidays?

If they were sincerely religious they would only hire jewish nanny. Find some other job. You do not want a MB in the name of God!

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Anonymous wrote:if you can't respect the wishes of your employer, don't take the job.
Jews don't care if you believe what we believe. But if you take a job, you need to respect that and it really isn't difficult. If you can't do the basic functions of your job, you're a moron.

We're Jewish and are vegetarian. Much easier.

then hire a vegetarian jewish housekeeper.
don't complain if the non believer does what she likes.

+10000

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief some of you nannies are lazy!

How's this for a compairison...I nannied for a family with an infant and a preschooler. I HAND WASHED the baby's bottles and pacifiers and machine washed the preschooler's sippy cups (separated the rubber pieces too!). Then I was magically able to put all of the pieces back together and away in, wait for it, DIFFERENT cabinets. Did I charge extra for this?? No. Because it was a part of my job and I am not a lazy, obnoxious, rude person. It is a wonder some of you, though I suspect just one on this thread, are able to keep a job.

Key point: you thought it was part of your regular job.

Now, if a Muslim family wanted you to wear a burka in their house, would you?
Be honest here.

Not even close. But yes, if I accepted a job with a strict muslim family knowing that they required their non-muslim nanny to wear a hijab (more likely, though really, not likely at all) I would wear it, out of respect for them. I would not, however, take a job claiming to be compliant and then deliberately be disrespectful.

Again though, this is an entirely different situation. Essentially we are talking abut dishes. Are you really that lazy that you would be so as inflammatory as to compare kosher practices to wearing a burka?

You think Jewish practices are superior to Muslim practices?

No, I just think the PP in questin was being intentionally inflammatory by trying to compare keeping a kosher kitchen to being required to wear a burka.
All of this is beside the point, though. The defiant PP took a job knowing the requirements of her employers and decided she was too lazy to comply. Now she is trying to defend her actions with some pretty insulting b.s. If she didn't want to do the job she signed on for, she should have been up front at the begining.