Anonymous
Post 01/06/2014 10:53     Subject: Who called out today?

As an MB who works for the federal government and teleworks regularly, I hope that the nannies on this board who object to driving to their places of work when the weather is bad enough that the government offers the option of liberal leave or telework were upfront with their employers about this objection. If this is something that people object to, they should be upfront about so the employer understands that the issue. When I teleworked last Friday, I made sure the driveway and walkway were clear for my nanny but I expected her to come to work unless she didn't feel comfortable (per our contract).

Also, to the extent some people are objecting to people taking advantage of the benefit of teleworking, why are people surprised that someone would take advantage of of one of their job benefits?? I bet that if a nanny had the option of teleworking, they would exercise it too. Just like how I hear a bonus is standard industry practice for a nanny, teleworking is becoming more standard in the government. I don't get a bonus most years, but I do get the option of teleworking. My nanny gets a bonus every year, but no teleworking. Its just a matter of what your job benefits are/the industry practice is. It is not something that should be making people so mad. I don't get mad at my nanny because she gets a bonus and I don't.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2014 10:31     Subject: Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't play this telework BS with my employers. Its too easy to sit on your ass at home and not care about me. If you can't get yourself to work, neither can I. Working while never leaving your home may be working, but its not the same as expecting me to drive. If I drive, you drive. You don't drive, I don't drive. If you want me at work, you take your ass in as well. Your life, and your comfort are not more important than mine. Its really easy to sit at home and telework, yet expect your nanny to be there with no regard to how difficult/unsafe it might be. Homie don't play that.


"Homie" doesn't get to dictate when and how I, her employer, work. You would be unemployed the second you told ME that you wouldn't drive in if I were teleworking. You want to not drive? Get a job where it is an option for you.

Grow the fuck up.


I'll dictate whatever I darn well please, thank you. I simply wouldn't work for you is all. I've had no issue finding jobs for people who aren't spoiled jackasses, who have the ability to think about someone besides themselves. Your inability to do so would make it an easy decision to never work for you. Sorry I don't subscribe to the idea that my employer is the ruler of my life.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2014 08:32     Subject: Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:I don't play this telework BS with my employers. Its too easy to sit on your ass at home and not care about me. If you can't get yourself to work, neither can I. Working while never leaving your home may be working, but its not the same as expecting me to drive. If I drive, you drive. You don't drive, I don't drive. If you want me at work, you take your ass in as well. Your life, and your comfort are not more important than mine. Its really easy to sit at home and telework, yet expect your nanny to be there with no regard to how difficult/unsafe it might be. Homie don't play that.


"Homie" doesn't get to dictate when and how I, her employer, work. You would be unemployed the second you told ME that you wouldn't drive in if I were teleworking. You want to not drive? Get a job where it is an option for you.

Grow the fuck up.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2014 15:11     Subject: Re:Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I don't have an option to telework, but for all the nannies questioning why teleworking parents would require a nanny to come in, the answer is pretty simple. Most employers require teleworking employees to have childcare. They still have to work and they still need childcare.

IF I were able to telework, and needed childcare, I would do everything possible to shift the day to accommodate nanny's safe commute, but that would be at the discretion of my employer.

The 22 yr old with the policy who thinks telework is BS is pretty silly, but that's her right. She will just likely miss out on jobs because parents have requirements in their jobs and if she wants to be paid and have stable work, she will have to adjust. If she wants the freedom to telework and not go in in certain kinds of weather, she needs to find a new profession.


I've had no problem finding jobs and reasonable employers, but thanks for your concern. If the roads are good enough for you to ask me to drive on, you can take your ass to work too. If not, we'll need to work something out. You're not required to telework. You're choosing to telework, because you don't want to go in. That's the insult. You aren't better than me. Don't expect from me, what you aren't willing to do yourself.

This has nothing to do with who is better. Jobs are different. Some jobs have an option to telework. Hers does. Yours doesn't. She can choose to telework even mid-summer, and that doesn't mean that you don't have to come to work.


+1000.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2014 14:40     Subject: Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have an option to telework, but for all the nannies questioning why teleworking parents would require a nanny to come in, the answer is pretty simple. Most employers require teleworking employees to have childcare. They still have to work and they still need childcare.

IF I were able to telework, and needed childcare, I would do everything possible to shift the day to accommodate nanny's safe commute, but that would be at the discretion of my employer.

The 22 yr old with the policy who thinks telework is BS is pretty silly, but that's her right. She will just likely miss out on jobs because parents have requirements in their jobs and if she wants to be paid and have stable work, she will have to adjust. If she wants the freedom to telework and not go in in certain kinds of weather, she needs to find a new profession.


I've had no problem finding jobs and reasonable employers, but thanks for your concern. If the roads are good enough for you to ask me to drive on, you can take your ass to work too. If not, we'll need to work something out. You're not required to telework. You're choosing to telework, because you don't want to go in. That's the insult. You aren't better than me. Don't expect from me, what you aren't willing to do yourself.

This has nothing to do with who is better. Jobs are different. Some jobs have an option to telework. Hers does. Yours doesn't. She can choose to telework even mid-summer, and that doesn't mean that you don't have to come to work.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2014 09:39     Subject: Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, PP - something being a "hassle" is not an excuse not to go to work. Something being unsafe, yes. But just a hassle? Of course take a few extra minutes to clear off your car and drive slower or come in a half hour late once the roads are more clear. But if my employee told me it was just too much of a hassle to come in, that wouldn't work for me more than once.


Agreed. My husband and I are both doctors and don't have the option of telecommuting. Nor do we have the option of not going to work if the office is open. Unfortunately we live on the top of a really steep hill that becomes a sheet of ice that takes days to melt when it snows even an inch. When we know the weather is going to be bad we stay at my parents house which means packing up 3 children and 2 adults. It's a HUGE pain but as I said, just because it snows doesn't mean we don't have to go to work.

I don't want our nanny to be unsafe so of course if I don't have to go to work neither does the nanny but if I have to go I expect her to at least try her best to be able to come, even if it takes a little longer.
I truly hope you mean, you expect her to come to your parent s house, and not yours with the steep hill covered with ice. No parent has answered my ice question yet. If I don't ski, then I won't be on an ice covered hill...period. Now if you come and get me, at the bottom of the hill, and return me to my starting point, at the end of the day, then we're in business.


No, I want her to go to my house and up the hill while my children are safely at my parents' house. Obviously that's not what I meant. If I can't go up and down the hill neither can she so she would come to my parents'.



It wasn't as obvious as you think, if someone had to question it.


Because everytime someone asks a questions it's ONLY with good intentions, right? Why on earth would I have the nanny go to my house when I already said I would take the children to my parents' house? So the nanny can sit at my house by herself with the children alone at my parents' house? Let's use some common sense here. The PP who asked the question was trying to start an argument by asking that.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2014 05:39     Subject: Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, PP - something being a "hassle" is not an excuse not to go to work. Something being unsafe, yes. But just a hassle? Of course take a few extra minutes to clear off your car and drive slower or come in a half hour late once the roads are more clear. But if my employee told me it was just too much of a hassle to come in, that wouldn't work for me more than once.


Agreed. My husband and I are both doctors and don't have the option of telecommuting. Nor do we have the option of not going to work if the office is open. Unfortunately we live on the top of a really steep hill that becomes a sheet of ice that takes days to melt when it snows even an inch. When we know the weather is going to be bad we stay at my parents house which means packing up 3 children and 2 adults. It's a HUGE pain but as I said, just because it snows doesn't mean we don't have to go to work.

I don't want our nanny to be unsafe so of course if I don't have to go to work neither does the nanny but if I have to go I expect her to at least try her best to be able to come, even if it takes a little longer.
I truly hope you mean, you expect her to come to your parent s house, and not yours with the steep hill covered with ice. No parent has answered my ice question yet. If I don't ski, then I won't be on an ice covered hill...period. Now if you come and get me, at the bottom of the hill, and return me to my starting point, at the end of the day, then we're in business.


No, I want her to go to my house and up the hill while my children are safely at my parents' house. Obviously that's not what I meant. If I can't go up and down the hill neither can she so she would come to my parents'.



It wasn't as obvious as you think, if someone had to question it.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2014 02:43     Subject: Re:Who called out today?

At our office, there are many positions that can't telework. Administrative assistants, security guards, lab technicians, and people whose work requires access to the facilities. These employees all have to take PTO on liberal leave days if the organization is not closed. Other employees whose work is eligible for telework can stay home but are expected to work. Nannies can't telework so they are not in a different situation than all the other employees in the world who are in non-eligble telework positions/

There will be some days when everything ....the federal government, companies, stores, banks, etc will be closed because the weather is very bad and the nanny would also have the day off. However, this isn't the case on most days when the federal government declares liberal leave and in the recent past days when its closed. On those days, it really is up to the nanny to decide to come in or use leave.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2014 01:23     Subject: Who called out today?

I'm a nanny and I can't believe some of the responses here.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2014 00:41     Subject: Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:I really can't believe some of the nanny posters. Of course I would rather telework so I can see my kids at lunch and come down and play with them for a little while. That does not mean that I am not working during the day. As a lawyer, I am able to work remotely- a nanny is not able to do the same- so it is completely different.

You're stupid
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2014 00:21     Subject: Who called out today?

I really can't believe some of the nanny posters. Of course I would rather telework so I can see my kids at lunch and come down and play with them for a little while. That does not mean that I am not working during the day. As a lawyer, I am able to work remotely- a nanny is not able to do the same- so it is completely different.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2014 21:52     Subject: Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, PP - something being a "hassle" is not an excuse not to go to work. Something being unsafe, yes. But just a hassle? Of course take a few extra minutes to clear off your car and drive slower or come in a half hour late once the roads are more clear. But if my employee told me it was just too much of a hassle to come in, that wouldn't work for me more than once.


Agreed. My husband and I are both doctors and don't have the option of telecommuting. Nor do we have the option of not going to work if the office is open. Unfortunately we live on the top of a really steep hill that becomes a sheet of ice that takes days to melt when it snows even an inch. When we know the weather is going to be bad we stay at my parents house which means packing up 3 children and 2 adults. It's a HUGE pain but as I said, just because it snows doesn't mean we don't have to go to work.

I don't want our nanny to be unsafe so of course if I don't have to go to work neither does the nanny but if I have to go I expect her to at least try her best to be able to come, even if it takes a little longer.
I truly hope you mean, you expect her to come to your parent s house, and not yours with the steep hill covered with ice. No parent has answered my ice question yet. If I don't ski, then I won't be on an ice covered hill...period. Now if you come and get me, at the bottom of the hill, and return me to my starting point, at the end of the day, then we're in business.


No, I want her to go to my house and up the hill while my children are safely at my parents' house. Obviously that's not what I meant. If I can't go up and down the hill neither can she so she would come to my parents'.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2014 21:12     Subject: Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, PP - something being a "hassle" is not an excuse not to go to work. Something being unsafe, yes. But just a hassle? Of course take a few extra minutes to clear off your car and drive slower or come in a half hour late once the roads are more clear. But if my employee told me it was just too much of a hassle to come in, that wouldn't work for me more than once.


Agreed. My husband and I are both doctors and don't have the option of telecommuting. Nor do we have the option of not going to work if the office is open. Unfortunately we live on the top of a really steep hill that becomes a sheet of ice that takes days to melt when it snows even an inch. When we know the weather is going to be bad we stay at my parents house which means packing up 3 children and 2 adults. It's a HUGE pain but as I said, just because it snows doesn't mean we don't have to go to work.

I don't want our nanny to be unsafe so of course if I don't have to go to work neither does the nanny but if I have to go I expect her to at least try her best to be able to come, even if it takes a little longer.
I truly hope you mean, you expect her to come to your parent s house, and not yours with the steep hill covered with ice. No parent has answered my ice question yet. If I don't ski, then I won't be on an ice covered hill...period. Now if you come and get me, at the bottom of the hill, and return me to my starting point, at the end of the day, then we're in business.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2014 21:08     Subject: Re:Who called out today?

Anonymous wrote:
I don't have an option to telework, but for all the nannies questioning why teleworking parents would require a nanny to come in, the answer is pretty simple. Most employers require teleworking employees to have childcare. They still have to work and they still need childcare.

IF I were able to telework, and needed childcare, I would do everything possible to shift the day to accommodate nanny's safe commute, but that would be at the discretion of my employer.

The 22 yr old with the policy who thinks telework is BS is pretty silly, but that's her right. She will just likely miss out on jobs because parents have requirements in their jobs and if she wants to be paid and have stable work, she will have to adjust. If she wants the freedom to telework and not go in in certain kinds of weather, she needs to find a new profession.


I've had no problem finding jobs and reasonable employers, but thanks for your concern. If the roads are good enough for you to ask me to drive on, you can take your ass to work too. If not, we'll need to work something out. You're not required to telework. You're choosing to telework, because you don't want to go in. That's the insult. You aren't better than me. Don't expect from me, what you aren't willing to do yourself.


Oh sweetheart, make no mistake. I am not concerned for you at all. You are nothing but a rude child with a misplaced notion that you can tell your bosses when to take "their ass to work". You, child, will learn about the grown up world of work and how ridiculous it is to suppose you can tell your employers how to do their jobs. I have many more years experience in a far more critical field than yours, and if I were stupid enough to speak to my employers as you are doing here, I would not be employed.

But you won't bother to learn anything from anyone else. You think you know it all at 22. Good for you. You're still wrong and you're pretty dim to think you are insulted by something that has nothing to do with you. Yes, that's right. Teleworking has nothing to do with you or your job.

To put it frankly,

Your job is to show up when you are scheduled and get paid for the work you are contracted to do. If you are a lousy driver with a bad ankle, boohoo, get another job, crybaby.



You can call me names all you like bitch. I set the terms of my position. This is nothing more than a business relationship, and I'm smart enough at 22 to know that they have no more power over me than I give them. I write my own contract and they sign. You might not have the cajones I do, and you might not be employed, but I do and am. And I don't give a f*ck about your industry and what you do to keep a job. I will NEVER work for anyone but myself.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2014 19:20     Subject: Re:Who called out today?

I don't have an option to telework, but for all the nannies questioning why teleworking parents would require a nanny to come in, the answer is pretty simple. Most employers require teleworking employees to have childcare. They still have to work and they still need childcare.

IF I were able to telework, and needed childcare, I would do everything possible to shift the day to accommodate nanny's safe commute, but that would be at the discretion of my employer.

The 22 yr old with the policy who thinks telework is BS is pretty silly, but that's her right. She will just likely miss out on jobs because parents have requirements in their jobs and if she wants to be paid and have stable work, she will have to adjust. If she wants the freedom to telework and not go in in certain kinds of weather, she needs to find a new profession.


I've had no problem finding jobs and reasonable employers, but thanks for your concern. If the roads are good enough for you to ask me to drive on, you can take your ass to work too. If not, we'll need to work something out. You're not required to telework. You're choosing to telework, because you don't want to go in. That's the insult. You aren't better than me. Don't expect from me, what you aren't willing to do yourself.


Oh sweetheart, make no mistake. I am not concerned for you at all. You are nothing but a rude child with a misplaced notion that you can tell your bosses when to take "their ass to work". You, child, will learn about the grown up world of work and how ridiculous it is to suppose you can tell your employers how to do their jobs. I have many more years experience in a far more critical field than yours, and if I were stupid enough to speak to my employers as you are doing here, I would not be employed.

But you won't bother to learn anything from anyone else. You think you know it all at 22. Good for you. You're still wrong and you're pretty dim to think you are insulted by something that has nothing to do with you. Yes, that's right. Teleworking has nothing to do with you or your job.

To put it frankly,

Your job is to show up when you are scheduled and get paid for the work you are contracted to do. If you are a lousy driver with a bad ankle, boohoo, get another job, crybaby.